RLP discovers Latin

[MARTIN3030]

We knew it was only a matter of time before the Matrix was made redundant...a sad victim of a lost case.

We understand that RLP have now discovered something with equally as much mystery as their speculative invoices.

 

It looks like whilst in Oxford,JL took some time out to visit the university bookshops and came up with an idea for inclusion in letter number 5.

 

 

[MARTIN3030]

This is how future demands might look.

 

Nos sunt destituta ad note quod non reddere £ 137,50 et perdidit title ad discount.If non suscipere solutio in VII diebus nos ad nostri clientes et hoc involvunt curia actio cum costs.No ulterius monitis erit misit

Edited May 29, 2012 by MARTIN3030

[rebel11]

A nice summary - short but sweet - The Magna Carta

 

The Magna Carta 'established' nothing new at all, but instead provided a summary and convenient name for the social and criminal legal developments of the previous century. The original document of 1215 had only one genuinely new principle: it allowed a council of 25 nobles, all of whom were appointed by the rebellious nobles who had defeated John in civil war, to seize his wealth, property and even person without any form of justification at any time they chose. Rather than limiting the power of the king, the clause effectively was designed to turn England into an oligarchy run by a select group of nobles. This charter was repealed almost immediately after being signed, and, needless to say, this 'new principle' was not included in the later versions that became part of English law.

[MARTIN3030]

The Magna Carta 'established' nothing new at all

 

Rather like RLPs failed defence in Oxford then

provided a summary and convenient name for the social and criminal legal developments of the previous century.

 

Hmn -did "unlawful actions" appear in the convenient names list ?

 

to seize his wealth, property and even person without any form of justification at any time they chose.

 

Well maybe not property yet....they have been content to snatch £137.50 up to now.

 

Rather than limiting the power of the king, the clause effectively was designed to turn England into an oligarchy run by a select group of nobles.

 

Well Nottingham, does have some famous history ...except Robin Hood GAVE to the poor.

 

needless to say, this 'new principle' was not included in the later versions that became part of English law.

 

So in summary then Magna was as much use as a Matrix ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[millitant]

is magna carta great paper or great charter

 

my latin is not that good

[MARTIN3030]

Suppose it depends how you view it and whether it is relevant today.

RLP obviously think so...and appear to have incorporated it into THEIR charter.

My Latin is not good either...it was not on the cirriculum at school....but having said that RLP were not around in those days.

[ScarletPimpernel]

La Lambert's reference to Magna Carta merely demonstrates that she doesn't know her legal rectum from her articulatio cubiti, given that Magna Carta's primary purpose was to ensure that only the law could administer punishment to citizens. In other words, precisely the opposite of what these latter-day Sheriffs of Nottingham seek to do.

[rebel11]

Also there are four copies of the Magna Carta, in the following locations, Lincoln Cathedral, Salisbury Cathedral and two at the British Library, having incorporated the 'Magna Carta', I'm sure 'individuals' will want to inspect the document c/o RLP.

[andydd]

Can an individual now make a request under CPR 31.14 for a full copy of the Magna Carta ?

[MARTIN3030]

I have been reading Magna to see if there is any reference to a very famous old case from long ago.

It is the case of Adam and Eve in which Eve's unlawful actions caused severe disruption.Sadly I couldnt find any mention of it,nor does it appear to be mentioned on RLPs list of cases on their website.

[ScarletPimpernel]

The latest drivel on RLP's website, in which they overtly criticise the way their client's counsel presented the case (and hilariously suggest that the security staff were inexperienced and confused), is yet another demonstration of how increasingly desperate they are, not only to prop up RLP's failing reputation, but also the almost pathological need to have the last word.

 

It does give an interesting insight into the personality of the person who's writing it - how transparent and predictable she is.

[Bang!]

The title does conjure up a rather unusual image of two guys in too tight black trousers and frilly flouncy satin shirts, cha cha cha-ing up to some unsuspecting shopper outside TK Max, and saying "OK mate, you're nicked!"

[MARTIN3030]

But then an arguement develops....as one says "We have not got time for your holding room -we are on work soon,how long is this likely to take ?"

 

To which the reply comes "Well it could be half an hour but for evidential purposes lets call it 90 minutes....with another 30 waiting for the Police"

 

"Wow how come so long ?"

After a pause the reply comes

 

"Look just come inside now for 90 minutes and we promise you will be free in 40"

[2Grumpy]

Presumably it was a blue-cross day - or is that a different store

[caledfwlch]

What right is RLP claiming under Magna Carta?

 

Has a Freeman started working for them?

[MARTIN3030]

No its the inventive flair of their marketing department,which never ceases to amaze.The irony is that it seems that they actually believe themselves that everything they put on their website is factual and believable....which has to be a bit of a worry.

But hey...who am I to question ACPOs judgments,or BTP, or the Courts of the land.....?

[caledfwlch]

No its the inventive flair of their marketing department,which never ceases to amaze.The irony is that it seems that they actually believe themselves that everything they put on their website is factual and believable....which has to be a bit of a worry.

But hey...who am I to question ACPOs judgments,or BTP, or the Courts of the land.....?

 

Oh Noes, not the Courts of the Land!

 

Maybe we should try out a new thing of getting people to reply to RLP in Latin!

 

Salutem, RLP

 

Cum vestram extorsoribus postulant petentem exigentiam pecunia, mihi sed responsum. Ire et multiplicabo te horridas paulo barbaris

[honeybee13]

. I tried to look on babelfish for English to Latin translation and couldn't find it. Is there an equivalent website?

 

HB

[caledfwlch]

. I tried to look on babelfish for English to Latin translation and couldn't find it. Is there an equivalent website?

 

HB

 

I used Google Translate

 

It is mangling the translation a little its not very good with Grammar in most languages, though it seems to do Swedish very well.

 

The general gist is

 

 

"Having received your extortionate demand claiming a requirement for me to give you money, I have but one reply.

Go forth and multiply you horrid little barbarians"

 

*Barbarian being a pretty major insult to call anyone in Roman times

 

Having done some more playing, "vade et multiplicabo" seems a better way of saying "Go forth and Multiply" so I will deff be keeping that one to use in letters. it's amazing how a bit of Latin adds a certain... formality to a letter!

[caledfwlch]

I had an email from an old DCA recently.

 

I replied very politely.

 

In Welsh.

 

Got a nasty one back either demanding, or "requiring" me to communicate with them in English.

 

Welsh Civil cases held in the Principality can be conducted in Welsh by legal requirement, as all official business is required to do. I wonder if it could be argued, and perhaps a judgement won, that a Debt Collector dealing with Welsh citizens must provide a full bilingual service? Most Banks conduct bilingual business now.

[andydd]

I had an email from an old DCA recently.

 

I replied very politely.

 

In Welsh.

 

Got a nasty one back either demanding, or "requiring" me to communicate with them in English.

 

Welsh Civil cases held in the Principality can be conducted in Welsh by legal requirement, as all official business is required to do. I wonder if it could be argued, and perhaps a judgement won, that a Debt Collector dealing with Welsh citizens must provide a full bilingual service? Most Banks conduct bilingual business now.

 

Excellent

[ScarletPimpernel]

I had an email from an old DCA recently.

 

I replied very politely.

 

In Welsh.

 

Got a nasty one back either demanding, or "requiring" me to communicate with them in English.

 

Welsh Civil cases held in the Principality can be conducted in Welsh by legal requirement, as all official business is required to do. I wonder if it could be argued, and perhaps a judgement won, that a Debt Collector dealing with Welsh citizens must provide a full bilingual service? Most Banks conduct bilingual business now.

 

 

It's the same in NI; legal business can be conducted in Irish gaelic.

 

Meanwhile, back to Latin:

 

Salutem, RLP

 

Nos relatum vos ut refero donatus in Arkell versus Pressdram (anno Domini 1971).

[honeybee13]

I had an email from an old DCA recently.

 

I replied very politely.

 

In Welsh.

 

Got a nasty one back either demanding, or "requiring" me to communicate with them in English.

 

Welsh Civil cases held in the Principality can be conducted in Welsh by legal requirement, as all official business is required to do. I wonder if it could be argued, and perhaps a judgement won, that a Debt Collector dealing with Welsh citizens must provide a full bilingual service? Most Banks conduct bilingual business now.

 

You are a class act, sir or madam. Thank you for google translate, I shall have a look. Babelfish isn't perfect either, but I have a soft spot for it because I'm a fan of the Hitchiker's Guide series.

 

If you don't mind my saying, you could have a Latin signature to your CAG posts if you wanted, like myself.

 

My best, HB

[honeybee13]

It's the same in NI; legal business can be conducted in Irish gaelic.

 

Meanwhile, back to Latin:

 

Salutem, RLP

 

Nos relatum vos ut refero donatus in Arkell versus Pressdram (anno Domini 1971).

 

That sounds just like EJ Thribb. Come to think of it, so does Pressdram. HB

[caledfwlch]

You are a class act, sir or madam. Thank you for google translate, I shall have a look. Babelfish isn't perfect either, but I have a soft spot for it because I'm a fan of the Hitchiker's Guide series.

 

If you don't mind my saying, you could have a Latin signature to your CAG posts if you wanted, like myself.

 

My best, HB

 

Like this you mean?

 

Edit: Just noticed, for some reason signatures are not showing on CAG for me?

 

I cannot see mine, except in my profile, and there is no sig showing on your posts, Honeybee?

Edited June 1, 2012 by caledfwlch