Jump to content
  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • Jeff believes, like fish, chips and mushy peas, they are an integral part of this country's DNA. While Rachel argues that her 'free' account is being paid for by someone else. View the full article
    • https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8900129/Boris-Johnson-facing-Tory-revolt-new-lockdown-Furious-MPs-lead-backlash.html
    • I'm very sorry but this is very scant information and it certainly doesn't lay out the story in the way that I asked. Also there is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't identify the courier. as long as you are straight dealing and honest then it is better to bring things out in the open. we don't play secret squirrel here or get into any skulduggery. we are very pleased to help you and support you but you will have to lay things out in the open so can we can fully understand and provide us with the information that we have asked for  
    • Thank you BankFodder for the feedback and learning; here is the chronology which encapsulates the 'story'.  All parcels listed below were never delivered (for no apparent reason - the reason stated on the messages I received was that 'customer has no knowledge of purchases' ) by the courier who I'm cautious not to name in case there are legal implications for me personally. This matter is now in the Court system. I would be grateful if you could please confirm that you have seen the defence. Chronology Retailer Date goods ordered Date goods collected from retailer & promised for delivery by xxxxxx Comments / Breach of contract Holland & Barrett 23/09/2019 27/09/2019 Parcels not delivered – returned to H&B Debenhams 27/09/19 07/10/2019 Parcels not delivered - returned to Debenhams Holland & Barrett (re-order) 01/10/2019 07/10/2019 Parcels not delivered – returned to H&B Debenhams 29/09/2019 01/10/2019 Parcel not delivered - returned to Debenhams Debenhams 29/09/2019 01/10/2019 Parcel not delivered - returned to Debenhams Debenhams (re-order) 01/10/2019 07/10/2019 Parcel not delivered - returned to Debenhams
    • If you want to save us all a lot of time, you can tell us the whole story in a chronology without too much narrative including who you are dealing with. We really can't say if you have missed a trick until you lay it all out.   In terms of not wanting to bother us, - very noble, but it is less of a bother if you come to us first so that we can help you to get it right first go  
  • Our picks

    • Hermes lost parcel.. Read more at https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/422615-hermes-lost-parcel/
      • 49 replies
    • Oven repair. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/427690-oven-repair/&do=findComment&comment=5073391
      • 49 replies
    • I came across this discussion recently and just wanted to give my experience of A Shade Greener that may help others regarding their boiler finance agreement.
      We had a 10yr  finance contract for a boiler fitted July 2015.
      After a summer of discontent with ASG I discovered that if you have paid HALF the agreement or more you can legally return the boiler to them at no cost to yourself. I've just returned mine the feeling is liberating.
      It all started mid summer during lockdown when they refused to service our boiler because we didn't have a loft ladder or flooring installed despite the fact AS installed the boiler. and had previosuly serviced it without issue for 4yrs. After consulting with an independent installer I was informed that if this was the case then ASG had breached building regulations,  this was duly reported to Gas Safe to investigate and even then ASG refused to accept blame and repeatedly said it was my problem. Anyway Gas Safe found them in breach of building regs and a compromise was reached.
      A month later and ASG attended to service our boiler but in the process left the boiler unusuable as it kept losing pressure not to mention they had damaged the filling loop in the process which they said was my responsibilty not theres and would charge me to repair, so generous of them! Soon after reporting the fault I got a letter stating it was time we arranged a powerflush on our heating system which they make you do after 5 years even though there's nothing in the contract that states this. Coincidence?
      After a few heated exchanges with ASG (pardon the pun) I decided to pull the plug and cancel our agreement.
      The boiler was removed and replaced by a reputable installer,  and the old boiler was returned to ASG thus ending our contract with them. What's mad is I saved in excess of £1000 in the long run and got a new boiler with a brand new 12yr warranty. 
      You only have to look at TrustPilot to get an idea of what this company is like.
        • Thanks
      • 3 replies
    • Dazza a few months ago I discovered a good friend of mine who had ten debts with cards and catalogues which he was slavishly paying off at detriment to his own family quality of life, and I mean hardship, not just absence of second holidays or flat screen TV's.
      I wrote to all his creditors asking for supporting documents and not one could provide any material that would allow them to enforce the debt.
      As a result he stopped paying and they have been unable to do anything, one even admitted it was unenforceable.
      If circumstances have got to the point where you are finding it unmanageable you must ask yourself why you feel the need to pay.  I guarantee you that these companies have built bad debt into their business model and no one over there is losing any sleep over your debt to them!  They will see you as a victim and cash cow and they will be reluctant to discuss final offers, only ways to keep you paying with threats of court action or seizing your assets if you have any.
      They are not your friends and you owe them no loyalty or moral duty, that must remain only for yourself and your family.
      If it was me I would send them all a CCA request.   I would bet that not one will provide the correct response and you can quite legally stop paying them until such time as they do provide a response.   Even when they do you should check back here as they mostly send dodgy photo copies or generic rubbish that has no connection with your supposed debt.
      The money you are paying them should, as far as you are able, be put to a savings account for yourself and as a means of paying of one of these fleecers should they ever manage to get to to the point of a successful court judgement.  After six years they will not be able to start court action and that money will then become yours.
      They will of course pursue you for the funds and pass your file around various departments of their business and out to third parties.
      Your response is that you should treat it as a hobby.  I have numerous files of correspondence each faithfully organised showing the various letters from different DCA;s , solicitors etc with a mix of threats, inducements and offers.   It is like my stamp collection and I show it to anyone who is interested!
        • Thanks
        • Like

wedding venue/hotel gone.. but wheres the money gone?!

Please note that this topic has not had any new posts for the last 3096 days.

If you are trying to post a different story then you should start your own new thread. Posting on this thread is likely to mean that you won't get the help and advice that you need.

If you are trying to post information which is relevant to the story in this thread then please flag it up to the site team and they will allow you to post.

Thank you

Recommended Posts

Hi guys, ill make this brief ( makes for less boring read) and try and make this non confusing.. as much as i can..Ok.. basically.. we book hotel/venue for wedding last year for this august.. hotel was owner then buy "brooks Hotels"..this hotel along with a few others (ive now found out) were then sold off to a sister company (same director) called "albermarle Hotels No.2"Albermarle on the 3rd of may went under..thats it Folks shows over.. wedding dead..thank you ****ing very much!!..heres the crazy bit that ****ing me off.. money was paid to the hotel (White hall in broxted Essex)the recepit they gave me was headed on Brooks hotels paper.. but my bank statement says a different company name called Brompton Hotels ltd.. again the same director of brooks and the ex director of albermarle as he left just after they took over Whitehall i believe..ok questions.. is what theyve done illegal? it sounds like embezzlement??!P.S.. im going through liquidators and claiming debt owed and also my bank in twriting to get visa chargeback on my debit card.Any advice from directors/solicitors or fellow downtrodden parties welcome

Link to post
Share on other sites

Brompton Hotels is still trading as of today and the director is the same as the director of Brook hotels. This Gentleman has 14 companies of which he is euther the current director or ex director as they have gone into liquidation.

What has happened is not sadly illegal as every day I deal with companies that when cash flow becomes a problem they fold the company and start another, however you may have some comeback against Brompton Hotels if this is who your money was paid to.

Albermarle were in profit last year so there may be some money/assets in the kitty

Do you know who the current owners of The White Hall are? are they conected with any of these previous companies.

Most importantly have you got a new venue sorted?

If I have been of any help, please click on my star and let me know, thank you.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi A-B,First wana say thanks for your help very appreciated, yes ive heard they can do this time and time again.. ltd apparnelty means limit the damage lol..... yeah my money really did go to brompton my bank statment says so in black and white, yet i paid this white hall hotel which was not owned by them (bropmpton) at any point, what would be my best bet? letter demanding my money back??? Yes my amazing and very resourseful future wife has been on the case like bridezilla. getting quotes, cutting deals and dragging me along to view a ton of venues, and i think weve got one..(phew)

Link to post
Share on other sites

Nothing to loose in trying a letter asking for your money back you never know, also you said you were trying a chargeback with your bank are you getting anywhere with that? Did you have insurance? or do you have house insurance that may have free legal attached? Although this company had assets and a post tax profit 12 months ago i bet you any money you like it has all dissappeared prior to folding so the liquidators may well have nothing to share out.

I am not sure how but i have a feeling that even though it is a ltd company there may be a way of chasing an individual director where he has set up a new company when there is a connection, for example if he had a co called a hotel Ltd and and owned the green man and a hotel went bust but he opened a comapnt called A Hotel 2 and that company then owned the green man then there is a continuity and relationship and I think there is somthing that can be looked at in these circumstances.

If you have got cover then speak to a solicitor and see if you have any other options.

However the most important thing is that wedding is still on, obviously you would like to get your money back but dont hold your breath for getting it anytime soon and dont let it overshadow your wedding.

If I have been of any help, please click on my star and let me know, thank you.

Link to post
Share on other sites

well, i have given my bank 14daysd to respond to me in full, so heres hoping they give me a claim form, or i will really kick up a stick about that issue, we werent even aware of wedding insuracne until this all happened, silly i know but no one mentioned it etc?! yeah i may go to the CAB and see if they can help me still? and i can write a letter to brompton..infact i will and make it for the directors attention .. like you said cant hurt.. yeah im not holding my breath but i guess im a lil raw about idea of this...person.. breathing a sigh of relief as they legally steal money and no one will even look over at it.. ahh the power of the loophole huh... once again thanks.. :)

Link to post
Share on other sites

Good luck I am sure someone else will have other suggestions but if you throw enough mud at a wall some will stick so i would try every avenue you can. As you said you are not holding your breath about the money so you wont be devestated if it dosnt pan out but its worth a try. I will try and track down what my company are using to chase associated directors and see if its of any help.

If I have been of any help, please click on my star and let me know, thank you.

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?

  • Create New...