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    • Euro have got a lot wrong and have failed to comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4.  According to Section 13 after ECP have written to Arval they should then send a NTH to the Hirer  which they have done.This eliminates Arval from any further pursuit by ECP. When they wrote to your company they should have sent copies of everything that they asked Arval for. This is to prove that your company agree what happened on the day of the breach. If ECP then comply with the Act they are allowed to pursue the hirer. If they fail, to comply they cannot make the hirer pay. They can pursue until they are blue in the face but the Hirer is not lawfully required to pay them and if it went to Court ECP would lose. Your company could say who was driving but the only person that can be pursued is the Hirer, there does not appear to be an extension for a driver to be pursued. Even if there was, because ECP have failed miserably to comply with the Act  they still have no chance of winning in Court. Here are the relevant Hire sections from the Act below.
    • Thank-you FTMDave for your feedback. May I take this opportunity to say that after reading numerous threads to which you are a contributor, I have great admiration for you. You really do go above and beyond in your efforts to help other people. The time you put in to help, in particular with witness statements is incredible. I am also impressed by the way in which you will defer to others with more experience should there be a particular point that you are not 100% clear on and return with answers or advice that you have sought. I wish I had the ability to help others as you do. There is another forum expert that I must also thank for his time and patience answering my questions and allowing me to come to a “penny drops” moment on one particular issue. I believe he has helped me immensely to understand and to strengthen my own case. I shall not mention who it is here at the moment just in case he would rather I didn't but I greatly appreciate the time he took working through that issue with me. I spent 20+ years of working in an industry that rules and regulations had to be strictly adhered to, indeed, exams had to be taken in order that one had to become qualified in those rules and regulations in order to carry out the duties of the post. In a way, such things as PoFA 2012 are rules and regulations that are not completely alien to me. It has been very enjoyable for me to learn these regulations and the law surrounding them. I wish I had found this forum years ago. I admit that perhaps I had been too keen to express my opinions given that I am still in the learning process. After a suitable period in this industry I became Qualified to teach the rules and regulations and I always said to those I taught that there is no such thing as a stupid question. If opinions, theories and observations are put forward, discussion can take place and as long as the result is that the student is able to clearly see where they went wrong and got to that moment where the penny drops then that is a valuable learning experience. No matter how experienced one is, there is always something to learn and if I did not know the answer to a question, I would say, I don't know the answer to that question but I will go and find out what the answer is. In any posts I have made, I have stated, “unless I am wrong” or “as far as I can see” awaiting a response telling me what I got wrong, if it was wrong. If I am wrong I am only too happy to admit it and take it as a valuable learning experience. 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Again, in this instance only, I do not know what is to be gained by not making an appeal or concealing the identity of the driver, especially if it is later admitted that the defendant was the driver and was the one to input the incorrect VRN in error. So far no one has educated me as to the reason why. But, of course, when making an appeal, it should be worded carefully so that an error in the appeal process cannot be referred back to. I thought long and hard about whether or not to post here but I wanted to bring up this point for discussion. Yes, I admit I have limited knowledge, but does that mean I should have kept silent? After I posted that I moved away from this forum slightly to find other avenues to increase my knowledge. I bought a law book and am now following certain lawyers on Youtube in the hope of arming myself with enough ammunition to use in my own case. In one video titled “7 Reasons You Will LOSE Your Court Case (and how to avoid them)” by Black Belt Barrister I believe he makes my point by saying the following, and I quote: “If you ignore the complaint in the first instance and it does eventually end up in court then it's going to look bad that you didn't co-operate in the first place. The court is not going to look kindly on you simply ignoring the company and not, let's say, availing yourself of any kind of appeal opportunities, particularly if we are talking about parking charge notices and things like that.” This point makes me think that, it is not such a bizarre judgement in the end. Only in the case of having proof of payment and inputting an incorrect VRN .... could it be worthwhile making a carefully worded appeal in the first instance? .... If the appeal fails, depending on the reason, surely this could only help if it went to court? As always, any feedback gratefully received.
    • To which official body does one make a formal complaint about a LPA fixed charge receiver? Does one make a complaint first to the company employing the appointed individuals?    Or can one complain immediately to an official body, such as nara?    I've tried researching but there doesn't seem a very clear route on how to legally hold them to account for wrongful behaviour.  It seems frustratingly complicated because they are considered to be officers of the court and held in high esteem - and the borrower is deemed liable for their actions.  Yet what does the borrower do when disclosure shows clear evidence of wrong-doing? Does anyone have any pointers please?
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Do you really think we are free, personally i think us working class are born into servitude, we work like slaves to society..i work atleast 50hrs a week, so does my partner and just about get through week by week, taxed to death in every way to keep us down, dont talk to me about a free civil democratic society, our government are dictators the same as the rest, we just bury our heads in the sand and too spineless to do anything about it except moan moan moan!

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assisted blonde, i will just moan like everybody else, an uprising would be out of the question iam too spineless..lol...but i can have my say and be as cynical as i like after all it is a free country isnt it??

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assisted blonde, i will just moan like everybody else, an uprising would be out of the question iam too spineless..lol...but i can have my say and be as cynical as i like after all it is a free country isnt it??

 

Why is an uprising out of the question, then? Other than because every time someone rebels against the State, The Daily Mail and The Sun tell us that they're very naughty people and we believe them, I mean.

 

I quite fancy a nice uprising. :-)

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Why is an uprising out of the question, then? Other than because every time someone rebels against the State, The Daily Mail and The Sun tell us that they're very naughty people and we believe them, I mean.

 

I quite fancy a nice uprising. :-)

 

Sounds exciting! Count me in!

 

Or do we just fancy being naughty? :lol:

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I'd consider it a privilidge to have you beside me DW, even though the concept of a British uprising amuses me a bit. We'd probably all just gather around Parliament and only have one sugar in our tea because we're being rebellious.

 

Personally, I think the only thing that's wrong with this country is that we're all too ready to believe whatever the press want us to believe. It always ends up as the little man v's the little man - we point the finger at each other rather than at "The Man".

 

Also, Facebook. I cannot explain to you how much I blame Facebook. For everything.

 

Reality TV.

 

Simon Bloody Cowell.

 

Text speak. When my 74 year old Aunty texts me with " CU ltr oxo" I think it's reasonable to expect that 2012 is the year we finally go boom.

 

I think that's it. Other than that, we're pretty much a decent lot.

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I'd consider it a privilidge to have you beside me DW, even though the concept of a British uprising amuses me a bit. We'd probably all just gather around Parliament and only have one sugar in our tea because we're being rebellious.

 

Personally, I think the only thing that's wrong with this country is that we're all too ready to believe whatever the press want us to believe. It always ends up as the little man v's the little man - we point the finger at each other rather than at "The Man".

 

Also, Facebook. I cannot explain to you how much I blame Facebook. For everything.

 

Reality TV.

 

Simon Bloody Cowell.

 

Text speak. When my 74 year old Aunty texts me with " CU ltr oxo" I think it's reasonable to expect that 2012 is the year we finally go boom.

 

I think that's it. Other than that, we're pretty much a decent lot.

 

Roflmfaoooo!!!!! :pound:

 

We should join Cveitch too! He has me in fits laughing :lol:

 

The sheer look of horror on the sheeples faces when he says something like "it's a free country, if I want to film in a public place I will - everything's okay" is priceless :pound:

 

But yes, you're right - 2012 is a very apt year to go boom...........Want to hold my hand? :-D

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I'll hold your hand if the deal is that we slide sideways into the pit of oblivion with a glass of vodka in one hand and a bar of galaxy in the other.

 

Cveitch...is that the Love Police guy?

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I'll hold your hand if the deal is that we slide sideways into the pit of oblivion with a glass of vodka in one hand and a bar of galaxy in the other.

 

Cveitch...is that the Love Police guy?

 

He sure is! The one and only :lol:

 

Vodka a Galaxy sound perfect to me - I'll grab my new memory foam mattress under my arm for us to land on :lol:

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Lets just hope that your mattress is flame retardant, eh? :-D

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"what's right with this counrty" would be a much smaller thread imho :(

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"what's right with this counrty" would be a much smaller thread imho :(

 

I quite agree locutus.

 

On another note, dealing with our ladies suggestions earlier, an uprising would involve criminal acts (unless you want a civil war). My take on what we should do this summer, especially as it's the queen's jubilee and Olympics is to stage mass rallies and protests as the world's media are going to be focused on the UK for the best part of six months before, during the main Olympics, then paralympics, and after, and of course, the queens bloomin' jubilee... An Ideal opportunity to show the rest of the Commonwealth what's going on in the UK and an open invitation to the world's media to see the plight of the disadvantaged 'swept under the carpet'. I would attend peaceful protests if I can get someone to help with my wheelchair as I can't walk unaided outside and would be much safer in my wheelchair in a crowd... Any offers in the South Wales area to help?

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I was kidding about the uprising. Mostly. :razz:

 

I think that's a brilliant idea - unfortunately, from the very little that I've seen so far, I don't think the kind of security that they are going to have around the Olympics is going to allow for protests (peaceful or otherwise).

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Because of the lack of 'rainfall' during the Winter, there are 'water bans',

we've had the wetest April, since Records began, but it's the wrong type of 'rainfall',

go figure, ban continues.

 

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Because of the lack of 'rainfall' during the Winter, there are 'water bans',

we've had the wetest April, since Records began, but it's the wrong type of 'rainfall',

go figure, ban continues.

 

Made in the UK.:madgrin:

 

Did I catch something about stand pipes on the news today? I'm sure I heard that if this winter is as "dry" as last winter, next year the water companies are going to introduce stand pipes. Doesn't feel quite right when I clearly saw a picture of a chap in Somerset using a jet ski to get to work, because the local river has burst it's banks and turned the foot path into a waterway.

 

'Sall gone a wee bit mental!

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Roflmfaoooo!!!!! :pound:

 

 

 

But yes, you're right - 2012 is a very apt year to go boom...........Want to hold my hand? :-D

 

On the plus side it's meant to end before Christmas, so we'll save a packet on pressies and postage for cards this year :)

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I was kidding about the uprising. Mostly. :razz:

 

I think that's a brilliant idea - unfortunately, from the very little that I've seen so far, I don't think the kind of security that they are going to have around the Olympics is going to allow for protests (peaceful or otherwise).

 

I know a few people who do very peaceful protests, they're a lovely bunch of guys - and one of them is in a wheelchair himself (although in one protest the police manhandled him and took him away, he did nothing whatsoever wrong)! I think the majority of them are down south, but they have contacts all over the UK, so if you like I can ask them for you?

 

On the plus side it's meant to end before Christmas, so we'll save a packet on pressies and postage for cards this year :)

 

There's always a positive note huh Lexis? :lol:

 

To be honest, all this 2012 business I find exciting - I know (well I mean I assume) that the world isn't going to go boom, but it is going to change as we know it! Well, it already is - we've had rapid and strange weather changes, and the solar flares are becoming increasingly more frequent, they'll eventually knock the satelites out, which will knock technology out (assisted blondes sat nav doesn't work anyhow :lol:)

 

We're running out of fuel, even money - I think it will return to a back to basics, which in my book can only be a good thing! We're a spoiled species, a reality check would do us all good!

 

Funny though, they're griping and panicking over this so called drought? Have they forgotten what Africa have to go through?

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I know a few people who do very peaceful protests, they're a lovely bunch of guys - and one of them is in a wheelchair himself (although in one protest the police manhandled him and took him away, he did nothing whatsoever wrong)! I think the majority of them are down south, but they have contacts all over the UK, so if you like I can ask them for you?

 

 

 

There's always a positive note huh Lexis? :lol:

 

To be honest, all this 2012 business I find exciting - I know (well I mean I assume) that the world isn't going to go boom, but it is going to change as we know it! Well, it already is - we've had rapid and strange weather changes, and the solar flares are becoming increasingly more frequent, they'll eventually knock the satelites out, which will knock technology out (assisted blondes sat nav doesn't work anyhow :lol:)

 

We're running out of fuel, even money - I think it will return to a back to basics, which in my book can only be a good thing! We're a spoiled species, a reality check would do us all good!

 

Funny though, they're griping and panicking over this so called drought? Have they forgotten what Africa have to go through?

 

I'm glad it's not just me who thinks this. :-D

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I'm glad it's not just me who thinks this. :-D

 

Oh trust me, you're not - although I think we're a smaller minority than I'd like!

 

I notice that certain types of people who have not given one single thought to not only other countries who are suffering drought or disease or hunger etc - let alone given a thought to the fact that those countries are a part of and in "our world" - and the sheer damage we have done to this world has not just crept up on us.

 

Yet these people are in uproar about the monitory side of the collapse of this world :lol:

 

I know it's not good, but it's not the end of the world if they can't afford their usual 2-3 holidays a year, it's not the end of the world if they can't afford to run two cars, it's not the end of the world if they can't afford the latest designer things - but to them you see it is!

 

If these people had to live in a place such as Africa for just a week, they would soon realise how good they'd had it - scrub that actually, because they wouldn't :roll:

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I think it might just be because money really doesn't bother me any more. I've accepted that I'll never own a house (actually quite relieved about that, really), I've accepted that I'm never going to belong to the three-holidays-a-year crew and I'm good with it all, as it happens.

 

Years of having no money (and being a complete wally with what little I did have) have actually made me extremely grateful to be in the position where although I'm not exactly flush, I'm not fishing around down the back of the sofa for 5p's to buy a loaf of bread with at the end of the month, either.

 

My life's alright, actually. I just reserve the right to complain loudly on behalf of other people, that's all. :razz:

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Same here LG - and I wouldn't want to be part of the "three-holidays-a-year-crew", not if gives you the attitude that I've seen others who are part of that have!

 

One of them I know regularly goes to the US - if you were to ask her "did you have a nice time"? Her reply usually is, "well, you know it was okay - we go all the time, we're used to it, we don't even bother taking photos anymore" :!:

 

And they're also usually some of the most tightfisted people I know :lol:

 

I mean, if you can go abroad 4 times in one year, once to Spain, once to Bulgaria, and twice to the US - yet can't pay for your Grandchild who is sick to go to Disneyland Paris for 5days, and only gets to go through the kindness of a charity, then that takes tight to a whole new level!

 

The less you have, the more you appreciate not only the simpler things in life, but everything in life - that is a huge problem with society now, they so busy with materialistic things, they don't notice how lucky they are every minute of every day - we have clean running water, we have clean air, we have lush greenery! We can go about our daily business without the worry of being shot or blown up.

 

Sitting of a morning listening to the morning chorus with a nice cup of tea, means more to me than most things - absolute heaven!

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I'd like to be part of the 3 holidays a year crew!!! I'm pretty sure I could handle that and still be a normal nice person (just with a wicked tan:))

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I'm sure you would Lexis :-D

 

I would imagine they're not all like that (well I'd like to hope not)! I have two friends who are the absolute opposite of each other when it comes to being well off - one bless her really doesn't have much at all, but whatever she has, if you need it, you can have it! And my other friends, is what we'd call rolling in it :lol: she's not in the least as I described, and has in fact only just come back from her first holiday in years - she'll also help anyone if they need it!

 

But someone else I know, I remember there being a discussion about how the government were causing people to live on the breadline, and were genuinely struggling to feed their family - when this one piped up ( and was being utterly serious ) "oh well it looks like I'm going to have to sell my other car" :pound:

 

The other car was what you'd call a "Sunday" car, with a private number plate - oh the hardship :lol:

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