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I read up on that PIP

 

Under PIP there will be more medicals,more frequent checks and No more self assessment.

 

Everyone on DLA between ages 16 to 64 will have to put in a new claim for PIP between 2013 to 2016

 

I don't think people realise the amount of changes coming in to DLA..

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it isnt surprising as IB to ESA I consider very major changes, they will not rehaul a benefit just for minor changes.

 

I signed your petition but not confirmed via email yet but will do so later.

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it isnt surprising as IB to ESA I consider very major changes, they will not rehaul a benefit just for minor changes.

 

 

I'm not talking about IB to ESA..................

 

It's major changes to DLA for people between ages 16 to 64 http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?346406-Dla-renewal-failed&p=3800006&viewfull=1#post3800006

 

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/BenefitsTaxCreditsAndOtherSupport/Disabledpeople/DG_201317

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you misunderstood me in that I meant that I knew they wouldnt change DLA to PIP just for a mobility change and it was more significant changes as well.

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It says 16 - 64 between 2013 and 2016. Does that mean if someone will be 65 between 2013 and 2016, they won't get PIP and will stay on DLA?

 

All it says on over 65+

 

Aged 65 or over

 

If you're aged 65 or over on the day Personal Independence Payment is introduced, you'll keep getting your Disability Living Allowance. You will need to continue to meet the entitlement conditions. You'll not need to claim Personal Independence Payment.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/BenefitsTaxCreditsAndOtherSupport/Disabledpeople/DG_201317

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I was waiting to see if anyone noticed that!! You have to laugh about it or it makes you go abit nuts!!! And you are right, you have to fight for everything. I think we all get tared with the same brush when it comes to benefits. Everyone thinks that we are all scroungers and lazy about getting free money for nothing. If only that was the case!!! Fight, fight, fight, it's the only way and it's disgusting that we have to go down the lines of appeals etc

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Hi I was re-assessed for my DLA approx March this year. I was on higher rate care and mobility, nothing about my condition had changed so I filled the form in the same as I had previously. The DWP asked my GP for a report but when I got the decision I was given higher rate mobility and lower rate care.I asked the DWP for reconsideration but this time I contacted my consultant, nurse specialist and my GP and asked them for supporting letters explaining my condition and how it affects me on a daily basis I supplied this information to the DWP and within three weeks I was put back on the higher rate of both, so I think the key is to get as much supporting evidence as you can and to go into as much detail as possible about how your condition affects you. Hope this helps

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Hi I was re-assessed for my DLA approx March this year. I was on higher rate care and mobility, nothing about my condition had changed so I filled the form in the same as I had previously. The DWP asked my GP for a report but when I got the decision I was given higher rate mobility and lower rate care.I asked the DWP for reconsideration but this time I contacted my consultant, nurse specialist and my GP and asked them for supporting letters explaining my condition and how it affects me on a daily basis I supplied this information to the DWP and within three weeks I was put back on the higher rate of both, so I think the key is to get as much supporting evidence as you can and to go into as much detail as possible about how your condition affects you. Hope this helps

 

 

It may be the case now since the last general election,they ask for supporting information from GP's and Consultants or you need to supply supporting information and in your case you ask for a reconsideration..

 

Unfortunately,it's all going to change when PIP starts and people between ages of 16 to 64 DLA is stopped over 3 year period and people Will have to put a new claim in for PIP.

 

PIP will be in the hands of ATOS :!:

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Hi, yes I think your right, even when I filled my DLA form in March using exactly the same information as I had the previous time I got a different result.

I think things are going to get a lot more difficult in the future.

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Hi, I find it’s a good practice to keep your old forms as a memory aid because from what I’ve read on forums it’s not what you say but how you say it. using their terminology is the best way to meet their descriptors. I downloaded the decision makers hand book which is the book they use to see if you meet the criteria. Also if your condition hasn’t changed there’s not a lot you can do but keep repeating yourself. In my consultants letter he stated that my condition was permanent and I would never be fit for any type of employment but the DLA still say we will review you in two years to see if there is any improvement.

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I would never be fit for any type of employment but the DLA still say we will review you in two years to see if there is any improvement.

 

DLA isn't about employment.

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Yes I know that DLA isn’t about employment. My consultant’s letter covered every aspect of my condition including my inability to work. The point that I was trying to make but maybe not very clearly is that even thought he stated that my condition was permanent and would never improve they still said that they would review me again to see if I had indeed improved.

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I understand now. I think I found a document a while back where it states how long to award someone with a certain condition for. Given that the name is irrelevant, I do find that strange.

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I have used to the same forms and then added more infor onto them as I have been on different drugs, had more procedures etc. The CAB have been filling the forms in for me and it's they who have the copies. The thing I don't get is that they used my out of date ESA medical, which I won and put into the support group, not the WRAG, as I am unable to work due to my illness. I even laughed because it also stated that I would recover fully and my condition would be much improved by the time I came to another medical. But yet on a paragraph below this comment it's clearly states that the medical examiner 'does not think a wheel chair would help my condition, my illness is long term and work is not and would be possible for me to so'

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I understand now. I think I found a document a while back where it states how long to award someone with a certain condition for. Given that the name is irrelevant, I do find that strange.

 

I remember some years back there was a website online (probably accidental hosted on a dwp.gov address.)

 

It had a list of health conditions, and next to them it would say either decline reward, refer to medical or reward (then low rate or high rate) was 100s of medical conditions listed. That site is now gone and I cant find it again so I suspect it was meant for intranet only.

 

Seemed very bizzarre considering the official guidelines for DLA.

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I remember some years back there was a website online (probably accidental hosted on a dwp.gov address.)

 

It had a list of health conditions, and next to them it would say either decline reward, refer to medical or reward (then low rate or high rate) was 100s of medical conditions listed. That site is now gone and I cant find it again so I suspect it was meant for intranet only.

 

Seemed very bizzarre considering the official guidelines for DLA.

 

It's this one my dear..

 

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/publications/specialist-guides/medical-conditions/a-z-of-medical-conditions/

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That's the one I'm thinking about. Quite frankly, it's a load of rubbish. According to that my difficulties would be overcome by using visual aids. Anyone classed as visually impaired, has a condition which is not possible to correct by glasses.

 

But I know I fall in between the moderate and severe category.

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  • 5 months later...

Hi All

 

I was advised to apply for DLA as I have been off work with Acclerated disc changers L5/S1 & disc changers in L3 with is leaving me in alot of pain 80% of the day...yet it came back and told me that I didnt qualify....even though Im struggling to walk pain free or stand for more than 10mins with out being in pain.....

 

DLA is a joke..... according to them whilst they undertsatnd im in pain Im not considered disabled enough

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Hi, I have been awarded higher DLA rates for both care and 'getting around' (I have a severe spinal deformity with which I've had 2 failed full length spinal operations/mitral valve problems in my heart/ internal organs twisting around and being crushed due to ribcage deformities/ dislocating patella's (waiting for 2 knee replacements which I can't have for another 15 years as I'm only 41/ spinal stenosis/tendonitis in all tendons- had a wrist operation last year and now waiting for my shoulder to be done....due to tendonitis - and now arthritis in my left hip - oooh the joys LOL - but, I'm alive!!)....I've been getting this for 8 years and rely heavily on my car (although i can no longer drive - my hubby is my chauffeur)....What gets me about this useless government is the fact that despite us poor souls who have had 2 medicals to be able to get DLA indefinitely- we are being penalised. I am on incapacity benefit and was waiting to be summoned to an ATOS medical BUT, about 8 months ago - I received a letter saying that they had considered me going for a medical but my disabilities are so bad - they didn't bother.....But, I know we are being moved onto the Personal Independence payment ...apparently 'I will be invited' to do so in around 3 years time as that is when my car is due for renewal.....The Assessment for this 'new' benefit is available to view online and it is quite different from the DLA assessment. I have a friend who has COPD which is so severe she has oxygen in her house and she cannot walk 5 steps without being totally breathless. She was on the low rate care and mobility component so she asked to be reviewed - she had a review and they took it off her !!! She is totally devastated. The people at the office checked with my friend's GP and consultant and because she's not been able to attend the GP surgery (as she would need CPR if she attempted to) ...they've said her condition doesn't warrant DLA !!! The GP failed to say that my friend has regular 'home visits' instead....she's appealed and reappealed to be turned down both times again.....I'm dreading the swap over to PIP - I think people are going to have to be verging on death to claim it !x

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