Jump to content

 

BankFodder BankFodder


clairecmitch

Turned down for ESA, can't believe it !!!!

style="text-align:center;"> Please note that this topic has not had any new posts for the last 2881 days.

If you are trying to post a different story then you should start your own new thread. Posting on this thread is likely to mean that you won't get the help and advice that you need.

If you are trying to post information which is relevant to the story in this thread then please flag it up to the site team and they will allow you to post.

Thank you

Recommended Posts

My partner has just called the benefits peeps to chase up his ESA claim only to be told that there is a letter in the post with an appeal form on it's way to him as he has been turned down for ESA.I can't believe that they have come to this conclusion and fully intend to appeal and take it as high up as possible.My partner was born with no fingers on his left hand as a result of thalidomide. Being born with this he knew no different and lived a totally normal life, running his own businesses and never claiming a penny from the social.Sadly, due to him compensating by using his right hand more, he is now riddled with arthritis in his left hand side and is losing sensation in his right hand. This results in him dropping things and being unable to form a secure grip on anything.How the hell do they expect him to work like this !!!!!! Even our doctor told him that he should have stopped working years ago to prolong the use of his right hand.The benefit system in this country is so wrong and corrupt. I am totally disgusted and it's all I can do to stop myself calling the offices and tearing them a new a***hole !!!!!!!!Sorry for the rant but as his carer (without benefit) seeing him struggle every day is breaking my heart

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi could he try claiming for DLA? I agree the situation seems stupid i do wonder where some of these decisions come from.


If I have been of any help, please click on my star and let me know, thank you.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He already gets £78 per month DLA. Sadly it doesn't go very far. We're just existing on my wage and I'm sure he's feeling very much emasculated at being unable to provide any income.I guess we'll have a look at how they came to their decission and take it from there. I just can't imagine for the life of me how they came to this conclusion ????

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

claire, it's nothing new and nothing personal. The system is designed to ensure maximum failure. Welcome to the caring, sharing, UK, 2012 style. Best wishes with the appeal ...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Can your partner claim for damages from the makers of thalidomide if he hasnt already done so?

Not the same issue just trying to think of ways to increase your finances.


If I have been of any help, please click on my star and let me know, thank you.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Your partner needs to appeal. Can you / your partner get the GP to write a letter? It must be relevant to the ESA criteria. The criteria can be found here

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sorry to hear this Claire, it is sad times right now. Definitely appeal. If successful and put in the WRAG he would be entitled to contributory ESA for one year if he has paid enough NI contributions of the right type, after which he would only get ESA if he qualified for income based ESA which would depend on your wage and incomings as a couple. Still, it is a year he would get and worth fighting for even if he was put into the WRAG. If he was placed in the support group he would qualify for contribution based ESA after a year if the right type of NI contributions were made in sufficient amounts.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
If he was placed in the support group he would qualify for contribution based ESA after a year if the right type of NI contributions were made in sufficient amounts.

 

eh? You don't get the right NI contributions on ESA to qualify for contributions based benefits - that goes towards your state pension.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't understand what you are saying Nystagmite. I was talking about who qualifies to receive ESA and who doesn't, I wasn't talking about the stamp that is paid for you while you are on benefits.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
claire, it's nothing new and nothing personal. The system is designed to ensure maximum failure. Welcome to the caring, sharing, UK, 2012 style. Best wishes with the appeal ...

 

100% correct, the system is designed to for maximum failure rate.

If you google 44_fit_for_work_small you can read the report that set the latest wave in motion.

Some of the other sites that refer to this report also have some interesting content.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

he probably got turned down due to how the new asessment works.

 

eg. if they decide he can walk or use the phone (one hand to hold phone) then they see it as fit for work. Its stupid but its about what one can do now rather than what they cant do.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Sorry to hear this Claire, it is sad times right now. Definitely appeal. If successful and put in the WRAG he would be entitled to contributory ESA for one year if he has paid enough NI contributions of the right type, after which he would only get ESA if he qualified for income based ESA which would depend on your wage and incomings as a couple. Still, it is a year he would get and worth fighting for even if he was put into the WRAG. If he was placed in the support group he would qualify for contribution based ESA after a year if the right type of NI contributions were made in sufficient amounts.

 

He will only get CB ESA for one year if he qualifies for it for one year, what if the HCP decides he will be fit for work in say 3, 6 or 9 months??. Last November the prognosis on my medical report said, able to return to work in 6 Months, another ESA50 just dropped on my doormat end of February just posted it back, if I fail this time around I will have only qualified for at the most 5 months. So strictly speaking you only get 12 months ESA CB if you qualify for the full 12 months, after that you are not entitled to CB ESA regardless of how many National Insurance Stamps you have paid.

Edited by poollie1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I don't understand what you are saying Nystagmite. I was talking about who qualifies to receive ESA and who doesn't, I wasn't talking about the stamp that is paid for you while you are on benefits.

 

You said if in the support group, he would qualify for the contributions based after one year - he won't.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
You said if in the support group, he would qualify for the contributions based after one year - he won't.

 

He would, see http://www.dwp.gov.uk/adviser/updates/changes-to-contribution/ contributory ESA only stops after one year for the WRAG not the support group.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

you didn't say that. You seemed to imply that after one year, he would qualify for contributions based if in support group.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
He would, see http://www.dwp.gov.uk/adviser/updates/changes-to-contribution/ contributory ESA only stops after one year for the WRAG not the support group.

 

Think what Nystagmite is trying to say is that Support Group has nothing to do with Contributions Based ESA. Sorry I"m getting confused now, its being in the Support Group that qualifies the claimant to continue after 12 months , not as you are implying that he would qualify for contribution based if he was in Support Group, all contibution based ceases after 12 months, the only way you would continue to receive ESA after the 12 months is if you qualify for IR based or you are placed into the Support Group.

Edited by poollie1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes that is what I mean.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That is what I mean too, just said a different way round. So we're happy now hopefully!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Phew lol...I was starting to get confused....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I phoned DWP jobcentreplus and they said that contributory employment support allowance is not time limited for the support group but is time limited for the WRAG and it is contributory ESA that people can get for longer than a year for ESA if in the WRAG

 

This site wont let me put benefitsandwork links here but that site says clearly that is the case

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

yes that says the same

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I phoned DWP jobcentreplus and they said that contributory employment support allowance is not time limited for the support group but is time limited for the WRAG and it is contributory ESA that people can get for longer than a year for ESA if in the WRAG

 

This site wont let me put benefitsandwork links here but that site says clearly that is the case

 

I am confused now, ESA is not time limited if in Support Group, that is correct, CB ESA is time limited to 365 days if placed into the WRAG group, that is correct, but then you go on to say, it is CB ESA that claimants can get for longer than a year if in the WRAG????, am I missing what you are trying to say?? or are you contridicting yourself, very confused now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

oh yeah mis-typed! Yes WRAG is time limited to one year for CB-ESA

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

what does this mean?

 

"to prevent any new claims for ESA on the grounds of youth "

 

also they scrapping the linking rule, is that what allowed someone to try work without risk of losing their benefit if it didnt work out?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    No registered users viewing this page.


  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...