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Hi,

I see there are many posts about OPC tickets and I would like to find out what to do for 2 tickets I recently received.

 

OPC controls the parking lot at the back of the building where I live, since June last year. I drive a scooter and have parked it on the curb chained to a post for the past 2 years without ever getting a ticket. Last weekend I got a ticket stating that I had no tax disc. I was completely unaware that my tax disc was missing as it looks like the holder broke off. I promptly wrote OPC stating that I was unaware it was missing and applied to the DVLA for a new one. My new tax disc was received this Saturday (17th). Upon receiving it I went to put it onto my scooter, at which time I discovered ANOTHER ticket 6 days after the previous one. I have another appeal letter here waiting to be posted stating that this is a bit ridiculous. The second ticket simply states 'unreadable' on the reason. I have no idea what that means. In my appeal letter I state that I do not know what this means and that my scooter is always parked on the curb and therefore not in a parking bay at any time. This morning I took some photos of my scooter parked on the curb with the tax disc just for my own evidence. I am not sure if I am actually breaking the rules of the car park but I don't think I am since for one I have parked there for so long with no problem and also that I am not parked in a parking bay.

 

Any advice on this would be great!

 

Thanks!

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Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

I've started a new thread for you so that the advice doesn't get confused with the thread you just posted on. I hope the guys will be able to help you theu should be along soon.

 

My best, HB

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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OPC are a private company and are not working for any government agency, so whether or not you have a current tax disc is no concern of theirs.

 

Don't bothering "appealing" to them, as (because it's not an independent process ) it's more than likely it will be turned down. From now on stop communicating with them and ignore all the silly letters they will send to you.

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Read a few of the threads you have seen and you will see why the word I G N O R E occurs so regularly.

 

Additionally, for your peace of mind, road tax (and therefore a disc) is only required when a vehicle is on a public road - and only Police or Local Authorities can issue tickets on public roads. So I G N O R E

 

OPC operate on private land where road tax is not required.

 

OPC are issuing worthless requests for you to donate money to them, dressed up to look and sound official to scare you all the more into donating. Look up "Speculative Invoice" in the stickys

 

Do not write as there is no such thing as an Appeal - it shows they you are concerned and could be pressurised into giving them money if they try hard enough.

I G N O R E

 

 

On another matter - is the scooter otherwise parked there acceptably within the terms of the Car Park?

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Thanks for your responses.

The OPC notice board states that parking in the parking bays is only permitted when issued with a permit from the building. Which is the building I live in. Normally you have to get a temporary permit to display if you are loading or moving etc. However, my scooter is not parked in a bay. Is on the curb, so I do not see how I broke any rules as the board clearly talks about parking in the 'bays.' Am I right in this assumption?

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What are the stickys??

 

Read a few of the threads you have seen and you will see why the word I G N O R E occurs so regularly.

 

Additionally, for your peace of mind, road tax (and therefore a disc) is only required when a vehicle is on a public road - and only Police or Local Authorities can issue tickets on public roads. So I G N O R E

 

OPC operate on private land where road tax is not required.

 

OPC are issuing worthless requests for you to donate money to them, dressed up to look and sound official to scare you all the more into donating. Look up "Speculative Invoice" in the stickys

 

Do not write as there is no such thing as an Appeal - it shows they you are concerned and could be pressurised into giving them money if they try hard enough.

I G N O R E

 

 

On another matter - is the scooter otherwise parked there acceptably within the terms of the Car Park?

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As has been explained as far as private parking companies (PPC's) are concerned there is no independent appeals process. They decide on their own appeals, and guess what? That's right, 99.9% of all appeals are rejected. Besides, there is good reason to believe that such appeals processes are used to extract additional details from the recipients of PPC tickets that can be used against them later.

 

So, do not waste another stamp. OPC have no statutory authority to fine or penalise anyone - although they might dearly want you to think otherwise. They could pursue someone for their reasonable losses but exactly what losses have they incurred by your storing your scooter off the road at the location where you live? Correct again, nothing, nil, nada, zilch. You owe them nothing.

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Hey Guys,

So i got ANOTHER OPC ticket last night. This makes 3 in 1.5 weeks. I wish i could see these guys because i would really like to ask what they really think. As I said before, I have parked in this same spot for 2 years without any tickets. OPC began operating in the area in june las year. So i am not sure why all of a sudden they have decided to ticket me 3 times. The reason says 'parked on site' which is in some ways true, but I am parked on a bloody curb! I think I may find somewhere slightly different to park from now on, because seeing these tickets just ruins my morning!

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What is in your Lease or Rental Agreement about parking or use of the communal areas (which I assume includes the plot of land)?

 

Then, if you have Rights to use the land for that purpose, I would contact the Freeholder/Management Company.

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Well I own the flat, I am not sure what it says. I do not have a parking space with my flat, and the flat parking is underground, the carpark in question is basically at ground level at the back of the building. Mainly used for loading/unloading etc. I find it ironic however, that my service charge fees probably pay OPC!

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So where do the other residents park? Keep the 'tickets' especially the one about the tax disc. Make sure your scooter is securely locked at all time when it is parked there. My worry is that they may eventually think they have the right to 'seize' it. This one needs to be sorted out. You need to find out who has engaged OPC and be urgently speaking to them.

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Check your Lease and Leaseplan to ascertain your rights over that land. (I doubt it will permit the parking use you are making on it, but you may have access rights over it)

 

After that it is worth asking the Managing Agents about the situation - but I doubt they will provide much positive help.

 

Getting into legal hair splitting now.

If the above all gets nowhere it might be worth finding out from the Managing Agents the extent and precise area for which OPC are permitted to operate (i.e. it may be just the bays and vehicle approach area but not the walkways such as the kerb you use).

 

In the meantime, just relax and don't let it get to you!

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I just sent an email to my concierge and building manager to find out about the contract with OPC because this is just getting ridiculous. I do not know where others park, some people would have parking bays in the basement. There are a few other spots that scooters are parked on other curbed areas so maybe I will find out if they are having problems as well and if not just move to those places.

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