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    • it is NOT A FINE.....this is an extremely important point to understand no-one bar a magistrate in a magistrates criminal court can ever fine anyone for anything. Private Parking Tickets (speculative invoices) are NOT a criminal matter, merely a speculative contractual Civil matter hence they can only try a speculative monetary claim via the civil county court system (which is no more a legal powers matter than what any member of Joe Public can do). Until/unless they do raise a county court claim a CCJ and win, there are not ANY enforcement powers they can undertake other than using a DCA, whom are legally powerless and are not BAILIFFS. Penalty Charge Notices issued by local authorities etc were decriminalised years ago - meaning they no longer can progress a claim to the magistrates court to enforce, but go directly to legal enforcement via a real BAILIFF themselves. 10'000 of people waste £m's paying private parking companies because they think they are FINES...and the media do not help either. the more people read the above the less income this shark industry get. where your post said fine it now says charge .............. please fill out the Q&A ASAP. dx  
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    • good you are getting there. Lloyds/TSb...i certainly would not be risking possible off-setting going on if a choice were there, but in all honestly thats obv too late now..., however..you might not never be in that situation so dont worry too much. regardless to being defaulted or not, if any debt that is not paid/used in 6yrs it becomes statute barred. you need to understand a couple of things like 'default' and 'default notice' a default is simply a recorded D in the calendar section/history of a debt, it does not really mean anything. might slightly hit your rating. the important thing here is a default notice , these are issued by the original creditor (OC) under the consumer credit act, it gives you 14 days to settle whatever they are asking, if you don't then they have the option to register a defaulted date on your credit file. that can make getting other credit more difficult. and hits your rating. once that happens, not matter what you do after that, paying it or not or not paid off or not, the whole account vanishes from your credit file on the DN's 6th b'day. though that might not necessarily mean the debt is not still owed - thats down to the SB date above. an OC very rarely does court and only the OWNER of a debt can instigate any court action (Attempted a CCJ) DCA's debt collection agencies - DCA's are NOT BAILIFFS they have ZERO legal powers on ANY debt - no matter what it's TYPE. an OC make pass a debt to a dca as their client to try and spoof people into paying through legal ignorance of the above statement. an OC may SELL on an old debt to a DCA/debt buyer (approx 10p=£1) and then claim their losses through tax write off and their business insurance, wiping their hands of the debt. the DCA then becomes the debt OWNER. since the late 70's dca's pull all kinds of 'stunts' through threat-o-grams to spoof a debtor into paying them the full value of the debt, when they bought if for a discounted sum (typically 10p=£1). you never pay a dca a penny! if read carefully, NONE of their letters nor those of any other 'trading names' they spoof themselves under making it seem it's going up some kind of legitimate legal 'chain' say WILL anything....just carefully worded letters with all kinds of threats of what could/might/poss happen with other such words as instruct forward pass... well my dog does not sit when instructed too...so... DCA's SOMETIMES will issue a court claim, but in all honesty its simply a speculative claim hoping mugs wet themselves and cough up...oh im going to court... BIG DEAL DCA - show me the enforceable paperwork signed by me...9/10 they dont have it and if your defence is conducted properly, most run away from you . however before they do all that they now have to send a letter of claim, cause the courts got fed up with them issuing +750'000PA speculative claims and jamming up the legal system. so bottom line is two conclusions.... if you cant pay a debt, get a DN issued ASAP (stop paying it!) make sure it gets registered on your file then it stops hurting your file/future credit in 6yrs regardless to what happens (bar of course a later DCA CCJ - fat chance mind!)  once you've a registered DN , then look into restarting payments if the debt is still owed by the OC, if SOLD to a DCA, don't pay - see if they issue a letter of claim (then comeback here!).        
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I got a random call today (AT WORK) from a company called CCS

apparently i have spoken to them before he suggested (i dont think so)

also he claimed i was expecting a call (again lies)

 

he went on to tell me the calls were recorded and to say their company had been passed on the debt by Activ Kapita about a debt from Barclaycard

(joys of my ex boyfriend screwing my credit over with this card)

 

i said to him it was 2001 and he said yes but you defaulted in 2004!!! funny that seen as its 2012 now...

 

i reminded him that if i defaulted in 2004 then doesnt that make it Statue Barred (he said yes but you defaulted in 2004)

then i repeated that it was more then 6 years ago and is statue barred and he put the phone down on me!!!

 

in regards to this debt i haven't paid anything to them since 2004 maybe 2003 and i haven't spoken to the company or barclaycard since then.

 

what do i do now??? please help

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Nothing to do. You've told them in SB'd and you won't be paying. If they contact you again tell them in writing only and put the phone down. If they write to you write back with the SB letter but edit it to say "as you were advised when you rang me at my work address this is SB'd...." and if they contact you again after you've put that in writing report them. Check your CRA file also.

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Nothing to do. You've told them in SB'd and you won't be paying. If they contact you again tell them in writing only and put the phone down. If they write to you write back with the SB letter but edit it to say "as you were advised when you rang me at my work address this is SB'd...." and if they contact you again after you've put that in writing report them. Check your CRA file also.

 

 

thanks for the advice...you know i have looked on my experian report that years ago used to show this information and now it doesnt mension it at all :s

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and you need to report them if this is a works phone number - ICO/OFT

 

that is against all guidelines

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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That in itself is a valid reason for complaning - it could be anyone - and pre removal would suggest they are assessing your assets - which is a big no no.

 

www.consumerdirect.gov.uk for the OFT

www.tradingstandards.gov.uk for Trading Standards

 

or you could use our search tooo.... top right

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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To stop all contact send the following

Dear Curr or Madman,

I write in response to your communication

regarding a debt to xxxx which you claim

is owed by me PLEASE TAKE NOTE from

advice received and my own research I now

inform you that any such alleged debt is

STATUTE BARRED and therefore I will not

now or in the future make any payment or

offer of payment .

You will cease to process any data relating to

me forthwith.

I am sure I do not have to remind you of the OFT Guidance

2003/2011 and the sections regarding SB debts in particular

the section on passing or selling on SB debt without informing

the debt purchaser of the status of the debt.

Send RD to thei Compliance manager.

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To stop all contact send the following

Dear Curr or Madman,

I write in response to your communication

regarding a debt to xxxx which you claim

is owed by me PLEASE TAKE NOTE from

advice received and my own research I now

inform you that any such alleged debt is

STATUTE BARRED and therefore I will not

now or in the future make any payment or

offer of payment .

You will cease to process any data relating to

me forthwith.

I am sure I do not have to remind you of the OFT Guidance

2003/2011 and the sections regarding SB debts in particular

the section on passing or selling on SB debt without informing

the debt purchaser of the status of the debt.

Send RD to thei Compliance manager.

 

 

Excellent I'll get on with that letter tomorrow. I have no information about this debt so shall I wait to see what letter they send me or just send with my details and the debts origin?

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Just worked on the info you have supplied!!

 

So a while ago i wrote them the statue barred letter with no details on it and I simply typed it and send it.

 

They clearly have recieved it but they sent me another letter saying I owe them money!!!

And they called my house phone which is in my partners name and ex directory and I have no clue how they got it!!

 

They are no longer Calling my work.

 

However due to investigation I found out they got my work number from LinkedIn where my profile of no content really has now been deleted along with my twitter

and I have locked down Facebook.

 

However my home number isn't displayed anywhere with link to my name.

How the hell did they get that??

 

What do I do now?

 

I thought the letter would have been enough

 

Please help!!

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ignore them.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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yes they will

but the more you write/call or whatever

the more they think they can spoof you.

 

you've sent the SB letter.

 

end of!

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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They rang today when they said hello this ??? From Ccs can I speak to me I said oh I'm sorry I think you have the wrong number. Maybe they will bog off now. But do I ignore there letters or resend SB letter with threat to complain?

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Ok send this to their Compliance Manager

 

Dear Sir or Madam

 

Ref:xxxxxxxxxxx

 

Take note I do not acknowledge any debt to

you or any company you may claim to represent.

 

In regard to the debt for xxxxxx from advice received

and personal research I have concluded that the alleged

debt is STATUTE BARRED therefore I will not now or in

the future make any payment or offer of payment.

You will now cease to process any data relating to me and

remove all reference to from your records.

 

I am sure you are familiar with the OFT Guidance 2003/2011

and the sections regarding the pursute of statute barred debt,

and also the section regarding the sale of such debts without

informing the purchaser of the status of the debt.

No further correspondence will be entered into.

Send this recorded delivery.

Any Letters I Draft are N0T approved by CAG and no personal liability is accepted.

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Result they sent me a letter saying after my resent correspondence (SB letter) they are closing this case and returning it to the other company. So maybe that's it or are Aktiv kapita gunna pester me now lol

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Although it is not on your credit file it does

not mean always that the debt is statute

barred, and even if it is the debt is stll live

and payable, just not enforceable in court.

The OFT Guidance 2003/2011 says that it

considers it unfair to pursue for payment of

an sb debt once the debtor has informed the

creditor in writting that the debt is sb and

they will not be paying.

Even then the debt is not extinguished.

In Scotland after 5 years the debt is extinguished.

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