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hello, I just registered here as it seems like the right place to seek advice on this.

 

This morning I woke up to find a notice posted above the cooker stating that the cooker will be on at the following times during the day:

 

9:00am - 10:30am

1:00pm - 2:30pm

5:00pm - 6:30pm

 

at all other times the electricity to the cooker is off, so if the SIX people who live here don't manage to get their separate meals prepared in those tight time frames then they don't get a cooked meal (microwave food doesn't qualify as a 'cooked meal' as far as I'm concerned)

 

Is he allowed to do this?

 

thanks

 

edit: in Northern Ireland BTW

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He sounds like a nutcase.

 

I can't imagine that he is allowed to do it - especially if that has not been the practice so far and if it is not written into the contract

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Hi

 

Just another question also what does you tenancy agreement say on this as this is shared with six people sounds HMO.

 

Are you just paying for a room with shared use of facilites ie bathroom, kitchen etc.

 

Another thing did the landlord get a qualified electrician to carryout the work to cut the power at these times.

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sounds HMO

 

It is

 

Are you just paying for a room with shared use of facilites ie bathroom, kitchen etc.

 

yes, every room has its own electric meter, landlord gets a bill for the rest of the house

 

did the landlord get a qualified electrician to carryout the work to cut the power at these times

 

highly unlikely, he has his 'jack of all trades' mate to come round when things need doing

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So I take it your landlord did not provide you with written notice of this... Have you actually asked him why he's done it and the difficulty it's causing with 6 people needing access to the cooker within the 1 hour time slot?

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no written notice, just the notice above the cooker this morning, he said he did it because the cooker was being used "inappropriately" meaning someone was in the kitchen with all 4 hobs on but not cooking anything, trying to stay warm probably as the landlord skimps on the heating also. That probably is the case but it no reason to deny the entire house cooking facilities, I mentioned to him that 6 people will not be able to use the cooker in the short time allocated and it went in one ear and out the other. :hungry:

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Hi shpongle

 

Being doing a quick bit of research these may be of some use:

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thanks for your help stu007

 

this little paragraph from HMO Standards is very interesting and shall be presented to the landlord tomorrow :thumb:

 

6.5 Kitchen facilities for the purpose of paragraph 6.4, shall be available for use 24 hours a day. Each individual or household shall have a kitchen for their individual use or shared with one or more other individuals or households.
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To what 'result' are you referring Cbarbn (for the benefit of others)?

 

These days, a microwave could be regarded as adequate cooking facilities, as many families will attest.

Does TA allow cooking in rooms? are you allowed micro oven, hotplate, kettle or microwave in your room?

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Morning Mariner.... The result to which I refer is that of Stu finding some legislation regarding the cooking facilities. Unless the microwave is one of those all singing all dancing ones I doubt there is the facility to grill or roast etc.

Don't know about you but when I do a nice chicken for my Sunday dinner I like to roast it in the oven for a few hours, clearly the OP wouldn't be able to do that if the oven is only on for 1.5 hours

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To what 'result' are you referring Cbarbn (for the benefit of others)?

 

These days, a microwave could be regarded as adequate cooking facilities, as many families will attest.

Does TA allow cooking in rooms? are you allowed micro oven, hotplate, kettle or microwave in your room?

 

"6.4.1 Cooker with four rings or hot plates, oven and grill

6.4.2 A sink complying with paragraph 6.13

6.4.3 A securely fixed worktop 1200mm x 600mm minimum

"

 

I would hope that the use of a hotplate in a bedroom would break every safety rule in the book.

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Yet more - this is relevant if there are 6 people in the house.

 

6.12.1 Each kitchen shall be provided with a proper cooking appliance(s).

The minimum acceptable will be a cooker with four rings or hot

plates together with a grill and an oven in the following ratios;

 

1-5 individuals 1 cooker

6-10 individuals 2 cookers

 

1-3 households 1 cooker

4-6 households 2 cookers

 

No kitchen shall contain more than two cooking appliances.

 

You learn something new every day on this site.

 

ETA: Might be worth having a chat with your fellow tenants about not using the gas rings as a heating device, though. Despite thinking your landlord has come up with a completely loony and unacceptable solution, I can understand why he's not happy.

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I have done some work for client landlords looking into buying various type of HMO's in England. Not sure if it's relevant in NI however I found that each local authority had their own view on certain HMO rulings and the local council or local authority websites were extremely useful resources.

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Hi shpongle

 

This is the Housing Executive link for Northern Ireland: www.nihe.gov.uk

 

and this PDF of Landlords Guide may be of use:

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To what 'result' are you referring Cbarbn (for the benefit of others)?

 

These days, a microwave could be regarded as adequate cooking facilities, as many families will attest.

Does TA allow cooking in rooms? are you allowed micro oven, hotplate, kettle or microwave in your room?

 

And what if one of the tenants is diabetic?

 

I am, and have to keep away from microwave ready meals as they are full of sugar. It seems highly unlikely that a microwave only would be considered adequate. Diabetes incidently iirc is considered a Disability for the purposes of the Disability Discrimination Act, even though a well controlled (until forced to only eat ready meals by a dodgy landlord) diabetic would not qualify for things like DLA.

 

What if a tenant is Vegetarian? Or has specific dietary needs due to cultural, spiritual or other health condition needs? You really think a microwave is fine?

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