Parking eye charge- Photographical evidence

[Sid_2012]

Hi guys, im a newbie to this so please have patience. After falling victim of the parking eye and having had a little read around i was wondering whether you can offer me some advice on a query i have.

 

Basically i had overstayed in a free private car park owned by parking eye for an extra hour. I wanted to know if on the photographic image they send with the PCN, if it shows fairly clearly who is driving the vehicle can this be challenged or ignored or will ignoring this be used as evidence and get me into more trouble???

 

Any help would be appretiated as you will all understand an extra £50-£80 does make a hell of a difference and i would rather have it spent on my family than just have it thrown away like this.

 

Thanking you all in advance for your replies.

[Sidewinder]

Any photographic 'evidence' is completely irrelevant - this remains an unenforceable penalty and a speculative invoice rather than any sort or fine or legitimate debt.

 

Completely ignore the letters and threatograms that you may be sent - they will eventually stop as Parking Eye realise that you aren't playing their game. Continue reading other peoples' experiences of PE on this Forum and become confident!

[Sid_2012]

Thank you for the rapid reply. I have decided to ignore ...

I was curious to know if worse comes to worse and parking eye do decide to take it further whats the worst they can do ??

[sailor sam]

Thank you for the rapid reply. I have decided to ignore ...

I was curious to know if worse comes to worse and parking eye do decide to take it further whats the worst they can do ??

 

Take you to court for 'losses or damages' which basically means the revenue they would of 'earned' by you occupying the space. You say it was free parking... so what are their losses going to be? If they try and recover the 'penalty' it will be thown out because a private concern cannot legally issue or recover penalties or fines. It would be simple for you to prove that their claim is in fact a penalty especially as it was free to park there.

[Sid_2012]

Hmmmm interesting! Thank you guys for the info and for taking your time in helping answer my question... Ill keep you posted of the correspondence i recieve and basically am just ignore them and wait for them to disappear

[honeybee13]

Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

Yep, ignore is the right thing to do. There will be a trail of ever more desperate threatograms, some with scary red writing I imagine. If you start to waiver, and people do, come back to us for a pep talk .

 

My best, HB

[Sid_2012]

Thanks I will keep you posted how things go

[Startkey&Clutch]

Here is a list of what parking eye will do.........

[dx100uk]

and ofcourse they have been batted out of court several times recently as well

 

dx

[Sid_2012]

I did read up the only details they have are the registered keepers name and address from the DVLA. The notice itself is for the driver at the time of the incident who had violated the parking conditions not the registered keeper. And even if they did get a crystal clear image of the driver it could be anyone to them as they dont have a picture of the registered keeper...

 

It was just a little frightening the thought of it possibly going to court. But as you guys have explained that is highly unlikely which is a relief to know. But worst comes to worse as you guys indicated 'IF' it did go to court it will most likely be thrown out

 

As they say hope for the best but prepare for the worst, the worst isn't as bad as i originally thought it could be. Sorry about the long message I can go on a little but I will keep you guys all updated as to whats going on.

Btw I love the name StartKey&Clutch, Original!

[sameagle]

I'm a recipient of some of Parking Eye's claims, [on another CAG thread], and from experience, I can tell you that they send a couple of letters, plus a "final notice",.

 

I'm not sure if there's any more cr*p to come, "Quite frankly my dear, I don't give a dam*"

 

Now, where have I heard that before....Oh yes, I remember, in another fictional work, but one that contains far more entertainment value than Parking Eye!

 

Up to now, I've met Euro Car Parks, Parking Eye, and a couple of others, and they're all "Mouth and trousers" - sit back and relax.

[Sid_2012]

Ok guys so far these are the correspondance i have recieved:

 

PCN asking for £50

PCN Reminder still asking for £50

Final Notice now asking for £80.

 

The final notice basically states they will take up further action with the driver who is being charged ie solicitor, court proceedings, bailiff/sheriff. Im going to continue to ignore and ill keep you guys posted on the next step until hopefully they get bored

[dx100uk]

its not a pcn!

 

dx

[sailor sam]

Ok guys so far these are the correspondance i have recieved:

 

PCN asking for £50

PCN Reminder still asking for £50

Final Notice now asking for £80.

 

The final notice basically states they will take up further action with the driver who is being charged ie solicitor, court proceedings, bailiff/sheriff. Im going to continue to ignore and ill keep you guys posted on the next step until hopefully they get bored

 

Oh really? So they have identified the driver then. How?

[Scooby Doo69]

As has been said on this thread and many others, it is NOT a Fixed Penalty Notice, only the Police, Traffic Wardens and similar can issue those. Those are backed up by criminal law.The only remedy open in your case is the civil tort of trespass. Most of this private parking companies work on the balance of probability that by making the letters look official enough that the victim will pay up, as most do. I return any such letters unopened to sender.

[Jilly65]

Hi Ive sat reading all your messages but am still alittle worried because i have received a letter now from a debt collection company on behalf of UKPCC listing all the payments i will have to pay in court (I have had about four letters now)!!!I have never entered into any correspondance with these people should I carry on ignoring them??Thank you for your helpJx

[crem]

i have received a letter now from a debt collection company on behalf of UKPCC listing all the payments i will have to pay in court

 

It isn't from a different company, it's just from the next clown at the next desk in the same office. How can they list "payments" that you will have to pay in court when they haven't even lodged a claim, you would have to lose teh claim, and then the COURT will decide the fees, not them!

 

Normal cr*p from parking eye, continue giving them all teh attention they deserve.... none.

[dx100uk]

Hi Ive sat reading all your messages but am still alittle worried because i have received a letter now from a debt collection company on behalf of UKPCC listing all the payments i will have to pay in court (I have had about four letters now)!!!I have never entered into any correspondance with these people should I carry on ignoring them??Thank you for your helpJx

 

 

so?

 

a dca is just the same as you or me!

 

you could write those letters too

 

they are not legally trained in ANY way.

they have no legal powers in ANY FORM.

they are NOT bailiffs and can demand nothing!

 

dx

[Jamberson]

Hi Ive sat reading all your messages but am still alittle worried because i have received a letter now from a debt collection company on behalf of UKPCC listing all the payments i will have to pay in court (I have had about four letters now)!!!I have never entered into any correspondance with these people should I carry on ignoring them??Thank you for your helpJx

 

Why would they take you to court? What have you done?

[sameagle]

Hello again Sid,

 

I last "spoke" to you, in post 11, of this thread.

 

Just to let you know that the last two "Contraventions" that I incurred with this lot were on 19/10/2011, and on 18/11/2011, and there have two begging letters plus a "Final Notice" for each one.

 

I must say that the "Final Notice" is quite striking, with capital letters thus, FINAL NOTICE, the letters being 3/8" high, or 9 mm, if you prefer your sizes in millimoths, or whatever they call them.

 

Would be very interesting if they wanted to take matters any further with one of my drivers - I've recently discovered that one of them took the van into the car park, met the other driver in there, then they went for tea and toast.

 

Whilst eating, they decided to do each others work, to make it more convenient for them, [finishing nearer their homes], so swopped vans before driving out - how confusing for Parking Eye!

 

Sit back and laugh, mate!

[sameagle]

I realised that I didn't know the precise meaning of "Contravention", so I've just consulted my Dic - the Oxford one, I hasten to add!

 

Seems it's "infringement" - well, there you are, there's a "fringe" in the middle of it, so if we only "fringe" things in these car parks, they ain't important anyway.

[Sid_2012]

Hehehehe sameagle your a legend mate... Thanks for the heads up guys for helping me confidently get through this and for making it fun

[thesingh]

Every one is right by saying ignore it ...

 

I use to work for CCS Collect who are a debt collection agency and Parking eye is their client. Im all up for dealing with people who have not paid for services they have received but Parking Eye is a MASSIVE big sham...

 

IGNORE THE "FINE" you will receive 3 letter, (the initial, one with photographic evidence and one from the debt collectors/Solicitors)...

 

After that you will not receive any more letters.

 

Between 3 - 6 months after you receive the charge your account with them will be closed. Gone ... Finished...

 

Now the only Parking eye charge you should not ignore is the service station ones as they have clamping in operation.. If they see you have any unpaid parking charges they may clamp you... I have personally dealt with a few cases like this. But you need to check the signs to see if clamping operates on that site.

[crem]

Now the only Parking eye charge you should not ignore is the service station ones as they have clamping in operation.. If they see you have any unpaid parking charges they may clamp you...

 

 

and as an ex employee you should know that such clamping is entirely illegal.

[pigies3]

Hello., I would like to thank everyone disscusing parking-eye I recieved a" parking charge notice to owner" and was a little worried , they want £50. for over staying by 8 mins. After reading all the posts I`m now ready for the games to begin. I did only park for 2hrs but it took me the 8 mins to get out of the car park ( retail park , on a sunday.. yes I know stupid, what was i thinking). Let you all know how i get on.