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Napier Parking Fixed Charge Notice (A REAPOFF)


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Can't read it as it's too small. If you think they can sue you and win, give them your hard-earned cash. Or, look at the other 99.999% of cases and see what you think is most likely to happen.

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Once in a blue moon, they will take someone to court - it gives them credibility when people like yourself take it seriously. If the defendent defends, they should win - without particulars of the case, we can't judge if this is meaningful or a joke case. My money's on the latter, needless to say.

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so if it was a parking charge of £80, they won the 80 plus 110 expenses MINUS £90 for presumably missing the first hearing. NET £100 to the PPC as against the £80 first asked for. A very expensive claim to bring for the PPC I think :)

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Hi all

 

We got a ticket, well a pretend one, from Napier at willen lake in 2008. From memory we were 5 mins late back to the car and they wanted £60.

We ignored it for the worthless piece of paper it was, we received the usual threats blah blah blah. 2012 now and guess what....... We haven't heard from them since, just ignore the robbing parasites.

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Can anyone advise if i should pay a fixed charge notice from Napier. Relates to Jengers Mead in Billingshurst. Observation from & to has not been filled in. The driver, disaballed (my wife) was away from the car 2 to 3 minutes, not even engough time to purchase a ticket.

 

Appeal failed.

 

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Do not pay it, it is an unenforceable invoice, do some reading on the forum and you'll get the idea. Remember to ignore posters like Skynet who clearly are PPC employees trolling these forums to try and confuse people into paying their speculative invoices.

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Any examples of NCP doing court?

 

Hi, i have ignored the standard letters & today received the first letter via Napier saying Legal Department. (Final Demand before legal action)

 

Enclosed was a copy of a recent court transcript from Milton Keynes Court. Their attempt to say they wil take legal action. which they clain they were awarded payment plus their costs.

 

Is it still the case to ignore & just let it take it's course.

 

Regards

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Hi, i have ignored the standard letters & today received the first letter via Napier saying Legal Department. (Final Demand before legal action)

 

Enclosed was a copy of a recent court transcript from Milton Keynes Court. Their attempt to say they wil take legal action. which they clain they were awarded payment plus their costs.

 

Is it still the case to ignore & just let it take it's course.

 

Regards

 

They finally went away for me :-)

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be nice to see this letter about their 'win'

 

scan the required letters/agreements/sheets - as a picture[jpg] file

don't forget you can use a mobile phone or a digital camera too!!

'

BUT......

ENSURE: remove all pers info inc. barcodes etc using paint program

but leave all figures and dates. {DO NOT USE A BIRO OR PEN]

convert existing PC files to PDF [office has an installable print to PDF option]

..

goto one of the many free online pdf converter websites [http://docupub.com/pdfconvert/]

it would be better to upload a multipage pdf if

you have many images too rather than many single pdfs

.

or if you have PDF as an installed printer drive use that

or use word and save as pdf

try and logically name your file so people know what it is.

i'e Default notice dd-mm-yyyy

.

open a new msg box here

hit go advanced below the msg box

hit manage attachments below that box

hit the add files button on the top right

hit select files, navigate to your file on your pc

hit upload files

.

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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That's the judgement where is the proof of what it's for? Mr Yau could have owed them £80 for anything!

 

 

Currently receiving letters from Napier & the same transcript was attached to their letter from the Legal Department.

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Currently receiving letters from Napier & the same transcript was attached to their letter from the Legal Department.

 

It would seem that Mr Yau's case was a parking jobbie, but it seems it's the only one ever they have tried. Again Mr Yau had contact with them from the start, probably the reason for the action.

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I originally endeavoured to appeal to Napier parking and was subsequently turned down. I have since not replied and have now received a letter from The Thomas Higgins Partnership (Solictors)!

I appreciate what people are saying on these forums and have adhered to the rule since appealing (no contact), but am worried that this might actually mean they take action on me.

Has anyone received such letters and ignored them? If so, what experiences did you have?

Thanks

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I originally endeavoured to appeal to Napier parking and was subsequently turned down. I have since not replied and have now received a letter from The Thomas Higgins Partnership (Solictors)!

I appreciate what people are saying on these forums and have adhered to the rule since appealing (no contact), but am worried that this might actually mean they take action on me.

Has anyone received such letters and ignored them? If so, what experiences did you have?

Thanks

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start your own thread

 

this one is very old

 

see the video below

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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