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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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HI FOLKS,PLEASE READ THIS AND SEE IF IT MAKES SENSE.

MY CAR COMPANY OFFERED OUR CUSTOMER A 58 REG AUTO ASTRA WITH 3YRS WARRANTY.1OWNER+LOW WARRANTED MILES FSH FOR UNDER £5000.

SHE MANAGED TO GET FINANCE FROM SANTANDER,BUT THEY REFUSED TO DEAL WITH ME DUE TO MY COMPANY BEING ONLINE.

WE HAVE A CCL LICENCE FROM THE OFT AND ARE ANTI MONEY REGISTERED.WE HAD A SHOWROOM FROM 1987 TILL 2003 AND TURNED OVER £ 1.3 MILLION ON FINANCE P/A DUE TO OUR LOWEST RATE OFFERS AND 3YRS WARRANTY.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE NOW WE ARE ONLINE,SAVING CUSTOMERS LOADS OF CASH DUE TO VERY LOW OVERHEADS.

MY CUSTOMERHAD TO BUY:mad2::mad2: A 2006 ASTRA AUTO FOR £5000 FROM A LARGE MAIN DEALER.

CONCLUSION-

SANDANDER WOULD RATHER DEAL WITH A MAIN DEALER WITH HIGH OVERHEADS AND OFFER CUSTOMERS AN OLDER CAR FOR THE SAME MONEY AS OUR 2YR NEWER CAR.

ITS MADNESS.

OUR CUSTOMER HAD NO OPTION AND WE LOST OUT+SANTANDER NOW OWN AN OLDER CAR.

HAVE ANY MEMBERS ENCOUNTERED THIS PROBLEM.

WE ARE REPORTING THIS MATTER TO THE OFT AND WILL REPORT BACK WITH ANY NEWS.

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Welcome to the site.

Is this a policy that is only seen by Santandar ?

There must be some reasons for it.

Unless you can show that they are breaching regulations,then how do you suppose that the OFT will over rule a commercial decision ?

The OFT have previously investigated vehicle finance provided by motor dealers,the most high profile case was Carcraft.

 

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-2059478/OFT-criticises-vehicle-supermarket-Carcraft-making-clear-finance-agreements.html

Have a happy and prosperous 2013 by avoiiding Payday loans. If you are sent a private message directing you for advice or support with your issues to another website,this is your choice.Before you decide,consider the users here who have already offered help and support.

Advice offered by Martin3030 is not supported by any legal training or qualification.Members are advised to use the services of fully insured legal professionals when needed.

 

 

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For companies like santander to dismiss legal online car dealer is unfair.

And any unfair trading is an offence.

It makes no sense for santander to buy a 2006 car from a main dealer,but not purchase a 2800 car with lower miles and 3yrs uk wide warranty for the same money.

It smacks of protectionism

and therefore could be deemed as a cartel.

What do you think?

I know what my customer thinks!

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I think it would be an idea to find out if this is a practice or policy that is seen with other Financial Institutions,and what are the benefits or negatives to them in doing so.

Have a happy and prosperous 2013 by avoiiding Payday loans. If you are sent a private message directing you for advice or support with your issues to another website,this is your choice.Before you decide,consider the users here who have already offered help and support.

Advice offered by Martin3030 is not supported by any legal training or qualification.Members are advised to use the services of fully insured legal professionals when needed.

 

 

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Santander, Black horse and other Car Finance suppliers prefer to accept finance from reputable dealers preferably with large turnover. This is just what they do. If they accept 50-200 applications in one day from Car Supermarkets, they are more likely to accept customers with less favourable credit due to the amount of applications. Also at large car supermarkets the customer is more likely to accept 10-15% APR as opposed to the smaller retailer.

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