DWP Interview Under Caution

[sinkinghelp]

Hi

 

Many thanks for the reply. It was a tragic shock and was not expected. I had less than 20 minutes I reckon to make my mind up. The barrister said that 3 months suspended was agreed between the barristers but the judge thought otherwise.

 

What was a bigger shock was one of the prosecuting barristers said the claim was not fraudulent at the outset and that there was evidence that a phone call had been made as the claim for Income Support had failed indicating that the pension had been declared

 

I knew nothing of this before I had made the the guilty plea

 

Never mind what is done is done - I have no idea what is happening at my interview with the probation service or what I am suposed to do

 

All I can say is what ever you do take photo copies

Send everything recorded delivery

Make notes straightaway on phone calls

Have little phone contact and try and make them put everything in writing

 

 

thanks again

 

sinkinghelp

[confuciused]

That is enough to base an appeal on because the prosecution had an obligation to inform your legal representatives of all the evidence in their possession which would include the evidence of the phone call etc. That you made a guilty plea without that evidence which would have strengthened your case smacks of unfairness. and could be in breach of PACE as well as contrary to Article 6 of the Human Rights Act. Are you sure you can't face an Appeal? It wouldn't involve you in any court appearance, just your barrister etc arguing the case I think. It would put a stop to all the police station stuff etc too, at least for now until there was a proper consideration of your case.

[confuciused]

Or if your solicitor/barrister had that evidence in their possession and had not told you, there would be issues of negligence too.

[sinkinghelp]

Hello confuciused,

 

Many thanks for the reply

 

I have emaile my solicitor who said they thought the punishment was severe but not unexpected from the particular judge. The solicitor said it could be worse I could have gone to prison !

 

They would pass my concerns onto the barrister and get back to me.

 

That was all that was in the e-mail back

 

If and when I get any more information I will pass it on

 

 

regards

 

 

sinkinghelp ( now sunk )

[geoffthechef]

If i was you i would put it all behind me..

These people all know each other and do dirty deeds to weak defenseless people all day long..

You are just a very small cog caught up in the sham that is called justice..

It is a huge earner for many professional people and they earn fortunes from hounding people like you..

Remember it never was about you, It is all about them and their lifestyles...

 

Good luck and remember your case provided many many people with employment..

[sinkinghelp]

Hello geoffthechef

 

I have attended my second probation visit. The first did not go very well as they were unsure what my offenders structure path was to be or similar babble

 

So I have been today. More multi choice questions 98% did not apply to me violence - drugs - etc etc so I have to return next week to see how I have got on

and " we " can discuss how I am to be structured not to re offend

 

You are absolutely correct - some serious money being spent everywhere and as I do pay tax on my pension I assume I am contributing to my own supervision in a peverse way

 

I will do what I have to do and move on...................

 

But its been a long road

 

 

thanks for the reply

 

sinkinghelp

[charliesgranny]

I really feel for you and geoffthechef has hit the nail on the head. We are all just making money for these high earners.

[sinkinghelp]

Well - well - well

 

I thought that things may settle down. Oh no !

 

Local council have suspended my housing and council tax benefits as according to their letter I have failed to respond to an enquiry letter from them at the begining of May

 

They state that as I have failed to supply my pension information for the month od May 2013 they will have to now investigate if an over payment has occurred and recovery action taken.

 

Quite scary

 

However as they are part of the same pension schem they are aware that in April 2013 the pension for that year including any increase is issued and that gross rate does not change for 12 months.

 

I have a receipt dated 15th of April 2013 in which I handed in the April master pension advice listing payments for the next 12 months

 

I never recieved the enquiry letter in May.

 

This smacks to me of further intimidation by the local council

 

Well as I have now have one I will be asking my Probation Officer what is the best way to proceed on this

 

 

Sorry for long post but I am as mad as a wasp on crack !

 

 

sinkinghelp

[geoffthechef]

Do a freedom of information request to find out how many other people they have asked this year...Then complain...Fight back.

[bio]

Sorry laptop throwing a wobbly

[bio]

Did you actually get the letter from the Council in May? Its often the case that these pension schemes are run by outside bodies or other authorities, so your own LA may not have access to these details.

[sinkinghelp]

Hello All

 

Just an update. The DWP have settled down but the local authority have only just stopped sending me enquiry letters asking for information upon direct threat of me going to Ombudsman again. The information I was sending back never altered and again a couple more occasions where I am alleged to have failed to respond have occurred.

 

Nothing now for three weeks so I am hoping they have given up

 

Why they persisted in this was is beyond me other than " they can "

 

regards

 

sinkinghelp

[confuciused]

Unbelievable!

[sinkinghelp]

Hello All

 

I was hoping that everything would settle down a bit now since my Crown Court Appearance. The local council have been like a mad terrier keep sending enquiry letters out which did not stop until I told them I was seeking the advice of the Ombudsman. I actually got in a position where I had paid to much money and was greatly in credit to which the Council said that it was my fault and they had no obligation to notify me and took great offence that I dared suggest that it would have been helpful to let me know that I had paid too much.

 

The other matter which has just raised its head is that the DWP only prosecuted on one charge and not on the other two more.

 

The DWP debt management unit has decided that they are going to collect the other alleged overpayment to me by increasing the amount I am already paying.

 

So the merry go round starts again - and please all remember if you get a fraud conviction any insurance you have car - home will be cancelled when you notify the various insurance companies.

 

It was a long nightmare getting insurance. I had been with one car insurance company for over 20 years and they cancelled and gave me 7 days to go elsewhere

 

Is that xmas coming I hear

 

regards

 

sinkinghelp

[Nystagmite]

I really was hoping this was it for you.

 

If you can't afford the repayment, you need to speak to DWP. I think there's an income & expenditure sheet that CAB and other organisations can do for you.

[charliesgranny]

It seems never ending, how much can they really expect to put you through? I really hope it settles down soon and you can get some peace.

[sinkinghelp]

Hello again

 

Many thanks for your replies

 

I have completed an income/expenditure and stated hardship not to pay the full percentage they are allowed to take. Hopefully the income/expenditure will reflect that plus copies of various bills etc.

 

Its really now peaked my relationship with my partner after 36 years to the point that she has had enough of everything including me !

 

Oh well

 

sinkinghelp

[sinkinghelp]

Hello All

 

Just to update this a little more........

 

When I notified my house insurance of my conviction they after 20 plus years with the same company cancelled my insurance and I had to trawl to get the house re insurred. The same situation has occurred with the car insurance.

 

Unless I pay a minimum of between £200 and £250 premium on top of the insurance cost I cant get insurance for the car

 

It just gets worse very day

[Lillibelle]

You couldn't make it up could you??

So you;ve paid insurances for 20 odd years and because you were (wrongfully) convicted of something that has NOTHING to do with them they can reject you..bloody disgrace.

[sinkinghelp]

Hello Lillibelle

 

Thanks for the reply. Yes - indeed this is part of the problem that you get any criminal offence and insurance companies dis own you.

 

Its also tempting not tell them but that is even worse scenario

 

See my posting Crisis Loan - I have just had an appology from DWP over the money that was not accounted for I had paid - but as expected they do not say if discipline procedure have been implemented against the staff

 

It was this office that " lost " my repayments that gave me the advice over my pension I was told that as it was from the 1980's I did not have to declare it for benefit

 

Now - having been through the Crown Court process and I am off certain drugs I realise that the information I was given was onerous

 

Never mind just to try and move on

 

thanks again

 

sinkinghelp

[sinkinghelp]

Hello all

 

My other thread is Crisis Loan - DWP

 

sinkinghelp