birmingham city council fairer charging team

[standarren]

Hello guys hope you can help unfortunatly my grandad has been in hospital for 3 weeks now his dementure is getting worse so the hospital have issued a section 5 which means the social services are now in control and will be charged every day that my grandad remains in hospital.

We met the lady from social services today' she has given us the form (birmingham city council fairer charging team).

I think it assess my grandparents for everypenny that they spend so they can look at the incomings and outgoings

I wondered if anyone could help on the sort of things that are taken into consideration

 

thanks in advance

[spellchick]

Hi do you know if they are looking at assessing for contribution for homecare in the their own home or residential care? Usually they can have different ways of assessing this for these 2. I work in a different council but in a dept that deals with financial assessments as well for adult care.

[spellchick]

Hi do you know if they are looking at assessing for contribution for homecare in the their own home or residential care? Usually they can have different ways of assessing this for these 2. I work in a different council but in a dept that deals with financial assessments as well for adult care.

[spellchick]

Here is the information from their website

 

http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/cs/Satellite?c=Page&childpagename=Adults-and-Communities-General%2FPageLayout&cid=1223092710456&pagename=BCC%2FCommon%2FWrapper%2FWrapper

at the bottom you have the policy document and the information leaflet which explains in quite a simple way how they would work out their finances for fairer charging assessment

 

Hope this is of some help.

[standarren]

Hi do you know if they are looking at assessing for contribution for homecare in the their own home or residential care? Usually they can have different ways of assessing this for these 2. I work in a different council but in a dept that deals with financial assessments as well for adult care.

yes its for homecare not residential

[spellchick]

In that case the link is correct as that would be done under the councils fairer charging policy, I have not read the whole document myself but general rule they will make sure that the person who is being assessed has all benefits they should be getting (if not they can send off a referral for any additional benefits they think they may be entitled to and arent getting at the time) and they will look at all income. Currently the ceiling for savings in £23,250 per person which if they have over and above this amount in savings or capital they have to fund their own care in full. Some councils cap the max amount they need to pay up to but not all. Below that they will look at income (benefits, pensions, dividens, shares etc) and outgoings which will be utilities, any disability related expenditure (ie something they have to have because of any disability they have that an average person would not have to have as an expense for example some people would have a pendant alarm (lifeline), stairlift, specialist furniture for example) again how much they can take into account (and whether anything is capped up to a certain amount) depends on the policy/council so you would need to check their details on this. Basically they then calculate the income less expenses less protected income which is set by government as the basic amount any person of certain age (ie under 60, over 60 etc) would need for their everyday living expenses and then usually if there is anything left that may be their contribution towards their care. Best thing would be to read through the information leaflet and have a look at the policy to make sure how birmingham council assess this as it does vary

[standarren]

thanks everso much for you assistance

[spellchick]

No problem at all, hope you get the information you need so you have a better idea of the process

[Nystagmite]

Basically they then calculate the income less expenses less protected income which is set by government as the basic amount any person of certain age (ie under 60, over 60 etc) would need for their everyday living expenses and then usually if there is anything left that may be their contribution towards their care. Best thing would be to read through the information leaflet and have a look at the policy to make sure how birmingham council assess this as it does vary

 

I'm sure I read somewhere that they ignore the amount the law says you need to live on, (including disability premiums, etc) + 25%?

[spellchick]

Hi, I think it varies by the council as each can have their own policy but according to the policy doc for birmingham council they also have the 25% buffer on top of the protected income which is excluded when contribution is worked out. Only thing to look out for now is to see what changes in April 2012 as there may be changes to a lot of these policies, Im sure that the council I work for has changed some of the policy from April following a public consultation that was carried out a while back.