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    • Funnily enough the ad is still available online Range Rover 4.4 SDV8 Autobiography LWB Previously Sold | Clinkard Performance Cars WWW.CLINKARDCARS.CO.UK Performance, Prestigious and Specialist cars Dealers in Romsey, Hampshire but the autotrader version isn't which was probably slightly different potentially with more information. Reported to FOS over the phone but essentially gave them the same information I've stated here, updating them that I'm paying for a car I haven't had for nearly a month now etc I'll certainly come back with an update. Fingers crossed they will realise it's not worth taking to court. So the inspection among other things found a hairline crack across a load bearing section of the chasis which at the minute to the naked eye looks tiny but could turn out to be catastrophic and has had some filler chucked on top of it but we'll see what Clinkards inspection comes back with. Distance wise I believe they're around 165-170 miles away from me. Also I'm sure many people will have PCP agreements as it's the most common way to buy cars under 5 years old but they just forgotten the terminology or name for it. Pay deposit, choose a length then pay the difference between value today and guaranteed future value at the end of that agreed term   Whole experience has scarred me and moving forward I'd be tempted to pay for a pre purchase inspection myself because these guys are bigggg traders with a lot of top end cars. I just hope they don't make any more silly offers
    • Strange final response. They say that they are still investigating but they are giving you their final response anyway. Seems like a load of nonsense. Have you got a copy of what you then sent to the ombudsman? Anyway, for the moment although would like to know – it really is all for curiosity because as you have put it into the hands of the ombudsman it's probably not worth doing anything more until you have a reply. I would suggest that when you decide to spend this kind of money in future on a used car, that you understand exactly what your rights are before you make the purchase. When you buy anything – and maybe especially used car you should realise that you aren't only paying for the car, you are also paying for a bundle of consumer obligations which are intended to bind the dealer. You are paying for a vehicle which is of satisfactory quality and remains that way for a reasonable period of time and you are paying for any defects which emerge to be addressed and repaired at the expense of the dealer. We've already pointed out that by purchasing the warranty, they have effectively persuaded you to pay for something for which you have already paid. Very decent of you not to want to cause trouble in respect of defects which manifested themselves within the first few weeks. I have no idea why. For £78,000…. This you say that they were age-related problems – that is still no reason why those defects should have been there or why the dealer should not have been responsible for them. It seems to me that you have a clear case against the dealer/the finance company. We don't have many or any PCP purchases on this forum. However, it seems to me that the finance company is probably responsible for the condition of the vehicle because effectively you have bought it from them and to that extent it should be the same as HP. With a hire purchase agreement, it is as if you bought the vehicle directly from the finance company not from the dealer and it is the finance company which bears all the consumer obligations. I think the only thing you can do is to monitor the situation. Update us when you hear from the financial ombudsman and if you need to take the matter to court then we will help you. In principle it should be straightforward – but certainly there is a risk of a serious bill for costs if you lose. I don't see you losing. Did you say somewhere that the report suggested that the vehicle was unroadworthy? Have you got the advertisement for the vehicle? Does it make claims for the vehicle which are clearly untrue? And by the way, four hours away from you is what kind of distance? Have you read our used car guide? Have you looked at the video?
    • there's one in this thread.. i wonder if its the same, they seem to be identical regardless each time we have a thread with one Vehicle Control Services Privacy Notice, Brooke Retail Car Park, HA4 0LN - Private Land Parking Enforcement - Consumer Action Group  
    • It was really this daft Privacy Notice we were after, but no worries, I'm 99% sure it doesn't count as a NTD otherwise in his letter Simple Simon wouldn't have offered the discount of paying £60 instead of £100. Apologies for jumping the gun earlier. It's a pity your friend paid.  It's neither here nor there if Excel would back down or not.  They are not some statutory authority.  They're just a cowboy private company.  The only way she could have been forced to pay is if a judge had ruled against her in a court hearing, which is highly unlikely given she could have proved to have been elsewhere. I see her "offence" was in May 2023 so logically Excel and their signs were there by then.
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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I have started this thread on behalf of a freind as he does not have access to a computer.


He has moved into his house about 3 months ago, but he had the keys given to him about 4 months ago but did not move in until a month after as there was no electric and the landlord was going to arrange for the meter to get fixed. He didnt mind as he had asked if he could repaint the living room and slowly get all his furniture moved in.


He explained to the landlord that he was going to repaint and move his stuff in and the landlord only gave him a back door key as the landlord explained that the front was to be kept for the electricians who would need to gain access to get the electricity up and running.


He has paid all his rent up to date up till now but only from the actual date he moved in (3 months rent). The landlord has now stated that as he had the keys for four months, he wants 4 months rent, even though he had not moved in entirely and did not even have a front door key and no electric.


Does he have to pay from the month he had the back door key, or should his tennancy start from when he actually moved in? He didnt move in prior to this as there was no electric but was not to bothered as he was allowed the back door key to redecorate the living area in the daytime when there was enough light to do so.


Surely the landlord cannot allow someone to move in with no electric and cannot demand money for the month that he only had the backdoor key but not moved in?


Also the landlord has since contacted his parent and has dicussed the problem with her over the phone as my freind could not be reached on the day as he was in work. The landlord discussed matters that had nothing to do with anyone other than the land lord and my freind in question. Surely this is not allowed and all information held should be kept confidential even if it was his mum?


Any help would be appreciated so that i can pass it on to him, he is getting really worried now and is not sure what to do. I have told him of this web site and explained that i will start a thread to try and get him some help which he is most grateful.


Thanks for taking the time to read this thread and look forward to your replies


Becky :razz:

ABBEY: Owed £1.140 :mad:

06/07/06 - Requested Statements

07/08/06 - Request For Repayment Letter Sent Totaling £1,140

29/08/06 - LBA Sent

15/09/06 - Received reply offering £570 as a final settlement

25/09/06 - Accepted offer but ONLY as a partial repayment, & notified them that i am still going to persue for the remainder of the money

01/10/06 - Set up court date

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1st it sounds like he has a lousy landlord & he should start looking around for somewhere else to live now. This landlord gives every impression that he's going to be an ongoing problem for you friend.


If he agreed to let your friend have a key only so he could decorate & there was no electricity then he his renaging on the deal & you friend can refuse to pay.


Yes it is a breach of the DPA for the landlord to discuss private matters with the parents unless you friend gave the landlord their no as a means of contact & didn't tell him NOT to divulge information.


Questions that need answered.


Does he have a tenancy agreement & from when is it dated.


Has the electricians work been inspected & certified by the electricity supplier.


Is your friend the registered with the utility company as the customer & if so from what date


As well as the above the meter tariff setting should have been checked to ensure that the landlord is not onselling the supply to your friend. In other words the landlord can only charge the same for the utility supply that it costs him.


An example would be (& it used to be common practice) if you go onto a caravan site & want electricity supplied to your van & the site owner asks for an extra fixed payment then they are breach of the law

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Thanks both for replying, i am going to print out you replies and show them to my feind so that he can answer the questions asked.


I do know that his parent did not go as guarantour.


Thanks both i will let you know how it turns out


Becky :p

ABBEY: Owed £1.140 :mad:

06/07/06 - Requested Statements

07/08/06 - Request For Repayment Letter Sent Totaling £1,140

29/08/06 - LBA Sent

15/09/06 - Received reply offering £570 as a final settlement

25/09/06 - Accepted offer but ONLY as a partial repayment, & notified them that i am still going to persue for the remainder of the money

01/10/06 - Set up court date

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