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when you took out the loan in 98 were you self employed or what was your situation as most ppi insurances at the time were very dubious and most peeps were co ersed into taking out these sort of deals without choice so i would be reclaiming but you need to look at the ppi thread how to reclaim and get it in it may now even knock a few thou off the debt

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Hi patrick, is this re: my link thread? my husband was employed at the time, but they made it clear that if we didn't take out the PPI, then we wouldn't be likely to get the loan, even though it was apparently optional. I will have a look at the ppi thread, but not sure how much it will be that I am claiming back at the moment. Will try to get something started though anyway. Thanks again, magda

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also write a complaint to the FSA concerning your PPI that you were forced to purchase this product without it your loan would have been refused and they have refused to send you any details /data concerning the PPI who it is from and what the policy entails and also you are still being penalised for a policy that is of no use to you they have also refused to give you the repayments data you have already made and are demanding full compensation plus intrests

see how that goes on its also in the FSA website how to register your complaint concerning the ppi reclaims

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I have recently had a claim brought against me by Asset (that is a separate link). The thing is, I have just read on another thread http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/payment-protection-insurance-ppi/101677-me-welcome-ppi-struggling.html that if the total amount of credit i.e, 15payments x £65 (for example) = £975.00 is not shown, then the agreement is not properly executed. My own agreement with First National (now Asset Link) just gives number of instalments and amount of repayments (as it did in this person's case) but not the actual total amount repayable which in my case would be £4076.40. The actual amount of borrowing is the only figure quoted which was £1741 (including the PPI). So where do I actually stand on this? any help much appreciated as I'm running out of ideas as far as the court case is concerned (apart from the PPI) Magda

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Prviously posted by PT

 

The courts have also clearly stated that if a creditor does not follow these obligations exactly then they are not entitled to the benefit of the contract:-

 

1.In the case of Dimond v Lovell [2000] UKHL 27, Lord Hoffmann said , at page 1131:-

 

“Parliament intended that if a consumer credit agreement was improperly executed, then subject to the enforcement powers of the court, the debtor should not have to pay.”

 

2.Sir Andrew Morritt, Vice Chancellor in Wilson v First County Trust Ltd [2001] EWCA Civ 633 said at para 26 that in the case of an unenforceable agreement:-

 

“The creditor must…be taken to have made a voluntary disposition, or gift, of the loan monies to the debtor. The creditor had chosen to part with the monies in circumstances in which it was never entitled to have them repaid;”

 

3.When this case was appealed to the House of Lords on a matter regarding the Human Rights Act (Wilson & Ors v Secretary of State for Trade and Industry [2003] UKHL 40), Lord Nicholls of Birkenhead said:-

 

49 The message to be gleaned from sections 65, 106, 113 and 127 of the Consumer Credit Act is that where a court dismisses an application for an enforcement order under section 65 the lender is intended by Parliament to be left without recourse against the borrower in respect of the loan… when legislation renders the entire agreement inoperative, to use a neutral word, for failure to comply with prescribed formalities the legislation itself is the primary source of guidance on what are the legal consequences. Here the intention of Parliament is clear.

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hi ya, found this site on saturday - really helpful. Am today gonna write to my credit card companies asking for copies of the CCA - wot shall i do about my signature? have read that they can scan it in - shall i just use a different font as my signature? also, should i send cheques or postal orders? Sorry if this is a bit repetative but am new to all this! thanks guys:D

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Re. signature: you can print or create a digital signature & insert that on all your corresp. I use Online Personal Signature Maker - MyLiveSignature - Free Personal Signature Generator (it's free) but there are others out there.

Re. payments: Don't send a cheque - 'cos it has your signature on! And as you say, it can be scanned by the unscrupilious. PO's are advisable.

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hi, thanks for that - its monday morning and still feeling bleary eyed - forgot about the signature on the cheque!!!! DOH! :rolleyes:

 

will send postal order and make sure i send the letters registered mail! thanks again - will keep you informed!

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Hi There,

I applied for a CCA 2 months ago, have followed their non communication with another letter to say they are in breach of their contract and that I will be taking action against them in 14 days without prior notice.

 

They have replied to say they are still awaiting the original CCA from the lender and will be in touch shortly.

 

What do I do now? Send a solicitors letter?

 

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No, I would just ignore them now and see what happens. If they do not manage to provide a CCA then all good and well. However, some of them do suddenly materialise after many months, as they suddenly manage to obtain it from the original creditor. This has happened to me. For the time being you are perfectly entitled to cease payments until such time that an enforceable CCA is forthcoming. Or, if you wish, you can continue to make payments. Up to you. Magda

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Sorry to jump into this discussion guys and gals, but when you get a chance once you've finished can anyone make sense of this and the 40% rule?

 

Schedule 1 items 1-4

 

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2008/pdf/uksi_20080831_en.pdf

 

Could make a lot of secured lending be viewed quite differently in my opinion...seems odd though..

 

 

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Sorry to jump into this discussion guys and gals, but when you get a chance once you've finished can anyone make sense of this and the 40% rule?

 

Schedule 1 items 1-4

 

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2008/pdf/uksi_20080831_en.pdf

 

Could make a lot of secured lending be viewed quite differently in my opinion...seems odd though..

 

 

Sarah

 

I am just getting a blank page with this link ? :-(

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:D Thanks, I thought it might be me. I will put that text into the browser and see what happens. Thanks Jax :)

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Hi, can someone please tell me wher in the CCA 1974 or relavant regs does it day all prescribed information must be in the same document as I can't find it anywhere

 

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