Bailiffs - the true horrors - The Exposure TV documentary - Rossendales - Comments

[elsinore]

In the interest of balance, here is a swift response from Ms G-J

 

http://www.thecampaignforchange.co.uk/

 

It took me half an hour to connect with rossendales' website and when I did, some of the link pages were blank. So, I think they are working late tonight.

[caro]

In the interest of balance, here is a swift response from Ms G-J

 

http://www.thecampaignforchange.co.uk/

 

It took me half an hour to connect with rossendales' website and when I did, some of the link pages were blank. So, I think they are working late tonight.

 

Well let's hope they aren't busy with any late night/early morning calls. Frankly I suspect that some of those calls are more than sneaking up drives slipping letters through letter boxes to justify a fee for "visiting".

[woody1066]

Point taken caro, but as that one person was named and shamed, so long as he is the only one mentioned and the comments are not too extreme, they can not sue for libel where the truth is being told.

 

We must also remember that there are law abiding decent bailiffs out there who are equally appalled by this disgusting person's actions also, it doesn't help them either to have the likes of him on the prowl from before dawn to dark

Spot the oxymoron

[caro]

Spot the oxymoron

 

[brassnecked]

Spot the oxymoron

 

You mean the law abiding decent bailiff?

[Helplessconsumer]

Would it be possible to recover monies wrongly taken by a bailiff some years ago ?

 

A car registered to my (very mentally ill) partner was taken at 2 a.m. and sold (value several thousands) for one parking tickets worth of debt (inflated of course).

 

The parking ticket was mine, in my name - nothing to do with partner.

 

Because my partner became increasingly mentally ill (as severe as it can get) she couldn't 'cope' with allowing me to organise legal action to recover her cars value & I have been so battered by various events I haven't been able to pursue it either.

 

But now I'm making a comeback & want to fight all those human vermin that have ripped me & my partner off for years.

 

Any opinions about this anyone ?

[galaxy135]

I am apalled at the content of this programme. 25 years ago I trained as a bailiff but certainly not in the way this guy behaves. Compassion goes a long way and of course you get to know those that are playing games. Any kind of payment was acceptable, even if it was only 50 pence, it was a payment. A bailiff can only enter your home if you let them in, otherwise they can only enter accompanied by a police officer and that has to be well justified..

 

I became disabled and a wheelchair user 15 years ago and have been on the other end and have been gobsmacked by practices - of course I know my rights and know what they can and can't do but so many people don't and are frightened by the visits. They won't complain either. Moorcroft in particular are rogue - they came to my flat chasing a water debt, my learning disabled daughter was at home on her own, they threatened her, put their foot in the door. They put cards through my neighbours doors giving my name, reference number, creditor and amount, total breach of data protection act! Thankfully I have drummed it into my daughter that no-one comes in whilst I'm not here, she must call the police straight away which she did. The collector legged it but we got his numberplate from a beedy eye neighbour. I called the company and basically they couldn't give a damn despite me quoting legislation at them.Also that I don't appreciate them calling on a Sunday. They told me that I had to pay them and not the Water company - guess who paid the water company direct.

My household is classed as vulnerable, both being disabled and on benefits but that means nothing. Drakes Bailiffs are also less than scrupulous, they work for my local council. Thankfully no-one can take my car as it's a motability and I have very little worth anything. Also I had paid the council tax owing previously but they had not been updated, had to call the council there and then for them to tell the bailiff that nothing was owing.

It's my understanding that only court bailiffs can remove/levy goods unless laws have changed.

[caro]

Would it be possible to recover monies wrongly taken by a bailiff some years ago ?

 

A car registered to my (very mentally ill) partner was taken at 2 a.m. and sold (value several thousands) for one parking tickets worth of debt (inflated of course).

 

The parking ticket was mine, in my name - nothing to do with partner.

 

Because my partner became increasingly mentally ill (as severe as it can get) she couldn't 'cope' with allowing me to organise legal action to recover her cars value & I have been so battered by various events I haven't been able to pursue it either.

 

But now I'm making a comeback & want to fight all those human vermin that have ripped me & my partner off for years.

 

Any opinions about this anyone ?

 

How many years ago?

[brassnecked]

Would it be possible to recover monies wrongly taken by a bailiff some years ago ?

 

A car registered to my (very mentally ill) partner was taken at 2 a.m. and sold (value several thousands) for one parking tickets worth of debt (inflated of course).

 

The parking ticket was mine, in my name - nothing to do with partner.

 

Because my partner became increasingly mentally ill (as severe as it can get) she couldn't 'cope' with allowing me to organise legal action to recover her cars value & I have been so battered by various events I haven't been able to pursue it either.

 

But now I'm making a comeback & want to fight all those human vermin that have ripped me & my partner off for years.

 

Any opinions about this anyone ?

 

You have 6 years from the date of payment to recover wrongly imnposed fees, so anything before November 2005 will now be Statute Barred, and anything after that may be recoverable if you act quickly. others will know more

Edited November 1, 2011 by brassnecked
extra info

[Tryst]

Serves him right, especially if the tenant goes for it with a Form 4, or sues the council, or whoever for the damage caused by their agent the bailiff. Bedsits are in law a House of Multiple Occupation, and yes the door to the room id the "Front Door" for the purposes of entry, even though the letterbox at the entrance may be communal.

 

Another area of doubt is where there is an entryphone system, and a bailiff cajoles a neighbour to open the outer door..

Actually, I recently found out that if it's a privately rented bedsit, the only person other than the debtor who has the authority to allow a bailiff past the front door of the property is the landlord. From what I understand, none of the other tenants in the property have the right to allow the bailiff in. I wonder if this means the landlord can also sue the bailiff for trespass as well as the damages he caused?

 

This would cover the entryphone system too unless the council actually own the property and the bailiff is acting on their behalf. In which case, the landlord (the council) have already given the bailiff permission to enter. However, most entryphones have a separate trade button so the postman/dustmen etc can enter between certain hours, bailiffs would simply use that to gain entry to the communal areas.

 

Unless the laws have changed recently, the only people with the right to force entry are the Police and the Customs and Excise. Bailiffs as far as I know still cannot do it unless they have already been invited in by the debtor on a previous visit.

Edited November 1, 2011 by Tryst

[BankFodder]

We are indeed Caro,

 

We all know the Industry is littered with Mr Boast's but to say there had never been one complaint against him is hog wash as he has cropped up on here more than once, was that CEO really saying she has never dropped in on Cag to witness the agonies caused by her Bailiff? surely if she is working with the MOJ she should be "lilly white"?

 

I think the fact he was supposedly "training" another would be bailiff, is testimony to the fact the Industry breeds corruption.

 

JBW ......what utter rubbish they spout....do they really think their bailiffs wear halo's ?

 

I thought John Kruse should have played a bigger role...that man has in depth knowledge and could rip apart all the bullsh*t by the CEO with ease......by the way his new book is brilliant and I can highly recommend it...and all his others.

 

WD

Very pleased that you like the book so much. If you have the time, it owuld be helpful if you would review it on the Amazon website.

 

Ta

[1Loretta]

I was expecting to see much worse, the stories on here are nearly all much worse. Yes he was a silly old man with delusions of his own importance, racist and with a very limited vocabulary. He did talk a lot of nonsense about all the things he could do.

 

I don't think that the programme made it clear that virtually all bailiffs try to claim these extortionate and illegal fees, it is the norm, and that neither the Council who employs them or the police have any interest in dealing with this fraud. We did not see a bailiff illegally forcing his way into someone's home and we did not see a bailiff assaulting anyone. If you were the average person in the street you would not know after watching this programme how on a daily basis people are intimidated and terrorised in their own homes by bailiffs

 

Wasn't the woman from Rossendales weird, is she always like that or was it because it was Halloween? Don't the Government check anything before they have an advisor like her? scary!

 

I think they got away quite lightly, we will have to try harder!

[hallowitch]

How can i buy this new book without using paypal cant remember how i bought my last book from here but it defiantly wasn't through paypal

[impecunious]

Last night's programme was just "television" -- highly anticipated but disappointingly diluted. I would have preferred to have seen John Kruse in more assertive mode, he was way too passive. The programme merely showed the output of bailiffs, the real psychological and financial impact that bailiff's actions have on people's lives are quite frankly devastating and usually long-term. The majority of real cases here on CAG are far more emotive and gut-renching than last night's programme which was really just the tip of the iceberg and incredibly tame.

 

By mainly focussing on just one "rogue" bailiff, the widespread unlawful and, at times, illegal behaviour of bailiffs (as evidenced on CAG) was almost totally ignored.

 

Yes, it was a positive that the programme was shown but a real opportunity to "shock" was missed. Hopefully, as a result of the programme, lots more people will find CAG and benefit from its advice and support.

 

We should all fully support the campaigning work of CAG.

 

 

Impecunious!

 

P.S. I was one of those ******** from Twickenham

[brassnecked]

I think the programme makers purposely diluted the programme SO IT COULD be broadcast, as it would have been possible for Rossers and JBW to have gone for an injunction to stop or at least delay broadcast, as they would contend that doubt about the "Enforcement Industry" now there is an oxymoron as since when has aggravated debt collection been been industry? what does it produce? Ah yes broken lives...

 

Mr Boast's 'tache' was heroic enough to gain him employment now he ain't a bailiff (at least with Rossers but who knows he may crop up again with another company) in a Village People tribute Band.

 

It didn't go far enough but was better than nothing, John Kruse i think also understated the problem, but we don't know what he said in raw footage before his contribution was edited for the programme, so he may have given more robust comments but they could have been edited out.

Edited November 1, 2011 by brassnecked

[wonkeydonkey]

How can i buy this new book without using paypal cant remember how i bought my last book from here but it defiantly wasn't through paypal

 

Hallow

 

I had pre ordered my copy with Wildes and paid by card, as I did not know the book was going to be available through cag. It is well worth having as it compllments his book "Bailiff Law, Rights of Debtors and Remedies"..............our household bible.

 

 

 

WD

[1Loretta]

Is there a link for this book?

[rebel11]

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/announcement.php?f=47&a=207

 

Is there a link for this book?

[rebel11]

What is interesting is how they arrived at Mr. Boast, pretty random, they didn't have to look very hard, thats the scary bit.

[ravinwayne]

It was rubbish from start to finish!...

 

Why didn't we see him at a 6'6 20st nightclub bouncers house demanding money of course he wouldn't cos he would have been bounced down the garden path like a basket ball speaking the way he did! The bailiff was a bully nothing more nothing less and watching him justify himself at the end was laughable!...

how on earth does a man behave in that manor and not get a single complaint in 3yrs?

What a load of cobblers!

Bring back world in action!....

[rebel11]

Some of the people Rossendales chase could do with a Health Check after the stress they are being put under:-

 

http://amtd.co.uk/site/wellbeing-programmes/

[seanamarts]

What was that womans name? Ya know the one who acted so upset when she found out that her beloved bailiff was a rogue, you know the one I mean, good actress.

If she is gullible to think that that is the worse her bailiffs do then she needs to get off her clouds of fantasy and come live in the real world.

She knows this forum exists and I am sure she has read them. If she dosnt then I suggest we send her a copy of all the threads where Rossers are involved. If she was sickened by that Mr Boast's conduct how is she going to feel when she reads more of the same thing and much worse.

 

Come on lady, step up and admit that your bailiffs DONT stick to the rules and play nicely. I would certainly like to meet her and show her letters and photos of not only damaged property but photos of injuries that her bailiffs have done to people, especially one of a 62 year old women. I wonder how sick she would feel then. I am sure if that happened to her mother or aunt etc she would do more than just sack the bailiff.

 

Mr Boast should of been reported by her so that he wont be able to work in any other bailiff company. Lets hope a judge has seen this programme and prevents him from ever retaining another certificate. I have to say that his actions were mild compared to many rogue bailiffs.

 

Good programme.. We need more!!!!

[bazm]

Very dissappointed with the program. Couldn't they have got a few 'debtors' to tell their stories? By simply referring back to this site made the argument very weak.

Also, aren't the program makers aware that John Kruse now works alongside Jamie Waller so he can hardly be called independent.

Should have got Anne Marie from MoJ to explain their pathetic attempts to clean up the industry.

5 years since Panorama and Mr Boast (great name) joined the industry after this date so evidence that certain companies haven't go their act together. And how was this bailiff able to fiddle his calls? Don't they have tracking these days and audit controls?

[toofiegap]

I watched with interest, and I expected a little more but like seanamarts I thaught the lady was a good actress , I think she deserved an oscar for her performance especially with the line where she told the interviewer she felt physacally sick by his actions, in my opinion he voice spoke the words but her eyes and tone said lip service, my opinion. and as for that Mr Boast I hope not only did he lose his job but licence too so he could never ever inflict his odious, racist absusive cheating behaviour on anyone else.

[seanamarts]

Any one who missed it you can see it here

 

http://www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=285406