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    • I have received a PCN from Euro Car Parks for MFG - Esso Cobham - Gravesend. I was completely unaware that there was any such limit for parking and always considered this to be a service station. I stopped there to use the toilet, have a coffee and made a couple of work calls. I have read the previous topics on this location which suggest I can ignore this and ECP will not take legal action. The one possible complication is that the vehicle is leased by my employer so I do not want to involve them with the associated reminders and threatening letters. The PCN was first issued to the leasing company Arval who have notified ECP of the hiring company. I have attached a copy of the PCN Notice to Hirer with details removed as per instructions. What options do I have or should I just pay the PCN promptly at the reduced rate of £60? img20240424_23142631.pdf
    • What you have uploaded is a letter with daft empty threats from third-party paper tigers.  Just ignore it. What we need to see is the original invoice you received last October or November.
    • Thanks for posting the CPR contents. i do wish you hadn't blanked out the dates and times since at times they can be relevant . Can you please repost including times and dates. They say that they sent a copy of  the original  PCN that they sent to the Hirer  along with your hire agreement documents. Did you receive them and if so can you please upload the original PCN without erasing dates and times. If they did include  all the paperwork they said, then that PCN is pretty near compliant except for their error with the discount time. In the Act it isn't actually specified but to offer a discount for 14 days from the OFFENCE is a joke. the offence occurred probably a couple of months prior to you receiving your Notice to Hirer.  Also the words in parentheses n the Act have been missed off. Section 14 [5][c] (c)warn the hirer that if, after the period of 21 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice to hirer is given, the amount of unpaid parking charges referred to in the notice to keeper under paragraph 8(2)(f) or 9(2)(f) (as the case may be) has not been paid in full, the creditor will (if any applicable requirements are met) have the right to recover from the hirer so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Though it states "if any applicable ...." as opposed to "if all applicable......" in Section 8 or 9. Maybe the Site could explain what the difference between the two terms mean if there is a difference. Also on your claim form they keeper referring to you as the driver or the keeper.  You are the Hirer and only the Hirer is responsible for the charge EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T THE DRIVER. So they cannot pursue the driver and nowhere in the Hirer section of the Act is the hirer ever named as the keeper so NPC are pursuing the wrong person.  
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A company called Frederickson international contacted me around 6 months ago to say i was liable to pay a fee of £217.00 for an organe phone I took out in 2007.

 

The contract on the phone was only for 13 days.

They havent provided me with a complete breakdown of where the debt is from.

 

Orange sold the debt on to Arrow Global, and Arrow Global have applied a default notice against my credit file.

 

i have no idea what the debt is for, and not really sure what to do. Can they remove the default notice, this is really affecting my life, i cant even apply for a mortgage because of it.

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Can you explain further please, phone account 13 days,

did you decide to cancel?

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To make a cancellation within the prescribe time

it will need to have been made at least 3-4 days

before the end date to be effective, made on 13th day

would not get registered in time

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what does that mean? If i am liable for the full amount of the contract, then it would be a lot more than 217, they cant even tell me what the debt consists of?

Can Arrow still apply a default against my name in 2010 for a debt with orange in 2007?

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You will need to check the T's & C's carefully

you can ask the service provider for a copy

of the contract and the terms.

Yes they can register the default , but

if it in not a new default the DCA can only

update the original one.

Yes you may be liable for the whole contract

if cancellation was not made in time.

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Mobile phone contracts are a nightmare. I still have a couple on my CRFs from years back and, like you, only had them a short time. They have so many late payment markers on them its a joke. Why people bother with cell 'fone contracts when they can use pay as you go is beyond me. They are potentially lethal for credit scoring in these credit crunch days and peeps have been turned down for mortgages because of one late payment marker.

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they have told me I cancelled in time, but the amount is for not sending the phone back. But I remember sending the phone back in an envelope they provided me. There is no way i still have the reciept, it was over 4 years ago. Where do I stand with this, surely applying a default is a bit crazy?

 

I havent heard from Orange for 4 years till now?

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No I'm afraid not the phone allegedly not being

returned means that the value of the phone is outstanding

and is therefore a default on the account and the entry

is accurate, your only chance is to try to prove that it was

sent back, can you remember the date you sent it?

It's difficult to see what the outcome might be as it's just

your word against theirs.

A strongly worded complaint putting the to proof of non delivery,

and the give as much info as you can.

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One suggestion write a personal formal complaint to

the phone suppliers CEO, don't use a template,

these guys have seen them all before,

put your complain/concerns as clearly as

possible , copy to the DCA,s as well saying they

must prove that the phone was not returned.

Give 14 days for a reply.

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