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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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I accepted an estate agents offer to move in to a new shop while the lease went through as i needed to get new business going, i took the keys and paid a months rent in advance on 15th april 2011.

 

They advised me a standing order would be setup for the 1st of the month with first payment being due on 1st june (this date is in contract), that date came and the rent was paid. A few days later i got a demand letter saying i had not paid rent and i was due 8th of the month not 1st. i explained the money had left my account like they setup so it had been paid and they can not change payment date to 8th as my contract stated the 1st.

 

Anyway more problems arose like broken toilet, and tenant downstairs refused to let me lock the shutters when i left as my shutter blocked one of her windows by about 2ft, i was told by the estate agent he would sort this and landlord had given me permission to lock shutter but tenant downstairs would accept this, Also i was finding it hard to get phone line, electricity supply etc as previous tenant had left bills unpaid, i spoke to agent who said he would this.

 

Around the middle of may the lease came back which i said i would not sign until everything was sorted i.e shutter, toilet, rent problem etc. The agent agreed to this but then for next few days he kept calling me saying i need to sign and at one point turned up at my shop, i turned him away and said come back the next day he came back and said it and i'll hold it until everything is sorted, so stupidly i signed the lease only to find out on about june 6th when i'd had enough of them fobbing me off with issues and said i'm leaving they said you can't you have a lease, i was furious i explained them what happend but they said the agent was denying what we agreed,i had meeting with agents boss who stuck up for the agent and said he is not lying i must be, i have an email i sent to one of the agent's colleagues stating in the email that the lease is not to be submitted until i am happy that issues are resolved and nothing was said about it so i took that as they agreed, by now they are saying they won't take email as evidence that i told them not to submit lease.

I also explained i have received a copy of any lease signed by the landlord and still to this date i have not received one dispite them on several occasion saying they will send it.

 

Anyway my point is i should not be held in lease and they are now starting to send me demand letters for rent since i left and saying i am liable for any rent until lease ends (which was a 12 month lease).

Today i have also received a demand for insurance payment yet i was told by agent i do not have pay any insurance as landlord covers that.

 

Can anyone advise me on what to do, i can't afford to pay rent nor seek legal advice. i'm so furious it's come to this because of agent lying to me.

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Thank you, Hopefully someone can help me i'm getting nowhere with agent he is just denying it still, i'm just worried now its going to go to court there is no way i could afford that

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You could quote them this from the Misrepresentation Act 1967:

 

Removal of certain bars to rescission for innocent misrepresentation.

 

Where a person has entered into a contract after a misrepresentation has been made to him, and—

 

(a) the misrepresentation has become a term of the contract; or, ,

 

(b) the contract has been performed;, ,

 

or both, then, if otherwise he would be entitled to rescind the contract without alleging fraud, he shall be so entitled, subject to the provisions of this Act, notwithstanding the matters mentioned in paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section.

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As you are waiting for a more knowledgeable reply, I will throw my 2c in...

 

A lease obviously does exist because you have taken control of the property, and paid rent on it. This lease is an oral lease, which means both you and your landlord will have difficulty proving what was agreed in court.

 

I can not see a court awarding the full value of the lease - because the landlord will not have proof that a 12 month lease was agreed - but there may be something doe to the landlord if you did not give 'correct' notice or whatever. I don't deal with commercial leases, so I don't know if there is a defacto notice period on such things.

 

Is the property still vacant, or has another tenant been found?

 

If the total amount in question is less than £5k I would make a reasonable offer (in writing) and if they refuse, be inclined to let them sue, so a court can make the decision. If you do owe anything, you won't get a CCJ if you pay it within 14 days and get a certificate of satisfaction.

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Thanks Snorkerz

The problem i have is the fact i signed the lease after agent kept harassing me to do so, turning up at my shop phoning etc. He agreed with me that he would submit the lease until the problems where sorted and i was happy to go ahead but he stabbed me in the back and submitted the lease so now they are saying i have a lease.

 

I thought because i have not received a copy back signed by the landlord (despite them promising to send me one on several ocassions) that the lease cannot be valid.

They are not willing to except any deal other than me moving back in (property is empty at minute and they have put to let sign up) but this is out the question as if i do they want all the rent they say i owe paid.

 

The annual rent was £4750 and i've paid first and second months rent for the time i was there totalling £791.66

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I am afraid that it often ends in tears when a tenant goes into occupation before the lease is agreed and signed. It can sometimes be difficult to work out what was agreed and in some cases if there was a tenancy at all. If the agency is offering the premises on the open market that goes a long way to suggesting that they have taken back control of the premises and put an end to any arrangement that may have existed.

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There was no mention of any agrement in terms of getting the keys ha said i could have them so that i could move my stuff in.

 

With regards to them taking back control as property is back on the market, they are still sending me letters saying i owe rent since i left and for the remaining term of the lease or they will instruct solicitor to take action

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Sorry it's been a while for update but i thought everything was sorted as the esate agent had stopped harrassing me for rent, i still get the odd letter requesting the rent for the month they send letter E.G i got letter in march asking for Marchs rent yet i didn't get one for febuary.

 

Anyway today i have received a letter from the councils business rates stating i owe business rate for 2012 and they want them within 7 days or they are going to magistrate court for liability order.

 

I called them and told them i left the premises in May 2011, they have stated they will look in to this as they still have me down as being in the property dispite me informing them when i left in May 2011. They have said if there is a lease in place i am still liable for the rates and as you know the esate agent had told me the lease was in place when i left dispite the agent dealing me stating he would not submit the lease until all the problems were sorted with the tenant downstairs and the shutters fix etc.

 

I have had a meeting with the owner of the estate agent who said i am lying, his worker never said he wouldn't submit it (but he would say that).

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