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    • Thank you all   JK, I agree; if they were to accept my full claim today, then the interest would be around 8-9 pounds. If I were them, I would have offered to pay the interest and said no to the 12 pounds for the letters. These have not been mentioned, which is my mistake.   As you pointed out, if the judge were to award at 4% and I did not get the letters, I would get less.   Bank, thank you. I do hear what you are saying. If I am to continue with this, then I will need to pay an additional trial fee of £59. If I win everything, then great, but if I win less the claim and court fee, then I lose out. I am not sure what the judge will think about the interest. I think we have to remember that I won the item and, therefore, did not pay a penny for it. Yes, I have had to purchase an additional one, but maybe the judge will hold this against me. I am content that this is a win. I have not signed any non-disclosure clauses, and they do not ask for this either in their offer. 
    • Are you saying that both businesses were closed? Yet you stayed there for over two hours. . If both were closed than to charge £100 is a penalty since Horizon had no legitimate interest in keeping spaces clear for the company. sake as there were no customers..
    • Well you would think that would be the case. Sadly i doubt there is one honest broker within the BPA or IPC and most of their members. they are there to take as much money as they can from motorists regardless of PoFA.   Take the Consideration  period for example. This is a minimum of 5 minutes to allow motorists to find a parking space, read the T&Cs giving them enough time to leave the car park without having to pay if they decide not stay. Simple. Well it would be simple if it were any other company than BPA [or IPC who have now fallen into line with BPA's "reasoning"].  You see if you decide to stay then despite the fact that during the Consideration period when you still weren't classed as parking , once you accept the terms [with all the underhand little tricks designed to trip you up] that five minutes is now included in your parking time. [No not the parking period because the poor dears who ANPR cameras are apparently unable to work out what the exact parking period is since their ever so infallible cameras [yeah right] are incapable of tracking cars once they are in a car park]. After 12 years they still haven't worked out a way of doing it. Some of them fudge and the majority [with a wink fro their ATA [Accredited Trade Association though it should be Discredited Trade Association] just ignore the parking period all together. This is what BPA claim is the Consideration period Entrance grace period: This is for when motorists enter a car park, read the signs and/or attempt to make payment then leave. In these instances, motorists must be offered a reasonable amount of time before an operator takes enforcement action, but we do not define this time, due to the variance in size and layout of car parks. An entrance grace period for a small, permit-only car park could be below 5 minutes, whereas for a large multi-story this could be 15. But  heaven forbid that anyone should leave 6 or 7 minutes after entering  their member's car parks. . They are dutybound to receive a PCN. This is regardless of how busy the car park would be [Christmas eve for example ] .Our minimum is their maximum. Moving on to Grace periods. Again BPA gobble degook. Exit grace period: This must be a minimum of 10 minutes and this is when a motorist intends to stay – for example, if you paid for an hour but spent a total of 1 hour 10 minutes on-site, you will not receive a PCN. It is important to note that the grace period is not a free period of parking however and should not be advertised as such. If that ten minutes in not free parking what is it. their members all think they can send out PCNs for anything after 1 minute after the exact time never mind ten minutes. Our snotty letters have stood the test of time. Do not try to reinvent the wheel -especially with DCBL . They don't even know what a non compliant PCN is for goodness sake! You already know more about PoFA then they do. However if you include that they will find a way to disabuse the Judge of your logic and the law. So don't give them the chance.  I am sure you have the Parking Prankster going on about the rogues misusing the rules on planning permission by lying and stating that they had "retrospective permission". There is no such thing in English law yet Judges were swallowing it until one Judge pulled up Parking Eye about one of their Witness Statements alluding to "rp" by claiming it was "tantamount to perjury".  It wasn't tantamount,it was plain and simple perjury. Parking Prankster: The great private car park planning approval scam PARKING-PRANKSTER.BLOGSPOT.COM Guest blog from shuteyepark, from the Consumer Action group forums In December 2013 my daughter received a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) fro... Hope it wasn't too long winded Nicky Boy.🙂
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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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Hi gang,

 

Well after months(check my previous posts) of trying to get BAYV to do something about our faulty good im at the final straw.

BAYV are due to collect money from me this week to which they will not recieve ONE PENNY until they replace the items that are broken.Its a joke for me to be paying £160+ every eight weeks for items i can not use.At NO point i was made aware that when i took another item out from BAYV the whol package would be refinanced and i would own NOTHING.Also when i took out the P.C in 2007 i think it was i was mislead into the amount of repayments i would be making.When my payments rocketed and had to be refinanced the senior manager that came out to sort it out said the individual in question was SACKED for doing the same thing to other people(would that not make my origianal agreement void?)

Ive had posts replied to on here From BAYV to say they would get the manufacturers to sort out the cooker that was broke..guess what no phone call.....i rang BAYV to try and sort out among other things a broken Nintedo ds to which i was told someone would call round to pick up the ds to see what they could do ,guess what?....same again NO CALL.

Now i know this may seem rather extreme to withhold payment,but the way i see it BAYV has left me with NO other course of action.Its like banging my head against a brick wall.The coin meter is only attached to MY tv which i OWN by my tv cable which ive cut.NO damage what so ever has been caused to the meter or its power cord and of course BAYV will be getting their meter back when they call.

IM NOT SAYING IM NOT PAYING FOR THE GOODS WHAT I AM SAYING IS I WANT THE ITEMS THAT I DONT OWN AND STILL PAYING FOR TO BE REPLACED!.

 

Sorry for the rant guys.

 

P.S. could someone point me in the right direction for all the templete letters No doubt im going to need to keep these sharks at bay.

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Also,as stated in previous threads, i have had to replace the broken goods with second hand ones myself as i do not have enough space to keep a broken, vaccum cleaner,nintendo ds,hi-fi,cooker,wardrobe set,bunk beds,exercise bike and pc.Not one item works and ive been with BAYV since 2005 and i dont OWN a damn thing.Well if thats the case then the company is responsible for the up keep of equipment until i do own it.They had months to sort it out and i kept the equipment for as long as possible,but bear in mind when you live in a small home with little storage space you cant keep the items forever

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if they dont work, you should not be paying for them.

 

its HP.

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi gang,

 

Well after months(check my previous posts) of trying to get BAYV to do something about our faulty good im at the final straw.

BAYV are due to collect money from me this week to which they will not recieve ONE PENNY until they replace the items that are broken.Its a joke for me to be paying £160+ every eight weeks for items i can not use.At NO point i was made aware that when i took another item out from BAYV the whol package would be refinanced and i would own NOTHING.Also when i took out the P.C in 2007 i think it was i was mislead into the amount of repayments i would be making.When my payments rocketed and had to be refinanced the senior manager that came out to sort it out said the individual in question was SACKED for doing the same thing to other people(would that not make my origianal agreement void?)

Ive had posts replied to on here From BAYV to say they would get the manufacturers to sort out the cooker that was broke..guess what no phone call.....i rang BAYV to try and sort out among other things a broken Nintedo ds to which i was told someone would call round to pick up the ds to see what they could do ,guess what?....same again NO CALL.

Now i know this may seem rather extreme to withhold payment,but the way i see it BAYV has left me with NO other course of action.Its like banging my head against a brick wall.The coin meter is only attached to MY tv which i OWN by my tv cable which ive cut.NO damage what so ever has been caused to the meter or its power cord and of course BAYV will be getting their meter back when they call.

IM NOT SAYING IM NOT PAYING FOR THE GOODS WHAT I AM SAYING IS I WANT THE ITEMS THAT I DONT OWN AND STILL PAYING FOR TO BE REPLACED!.

 

Sorry for the rant guys.

 

P.S. could someone point me in the right direction for all the templete letters No doubt im going to need to keep these sharks at bay.

 

Hi again

 

I think it is about time you finally sat down with someone senior at Buy As You View and sorted things out, because from what I can see, this has been going on since at least October 2009... (You may remember your first post from back then...)

 

(Posted in October 2009) Yes il hold my hands up im a total IDIOT for getting over priced goods from these cowboys.

As it stands we are paying £232 every eight weeks for goods we dont even own, and up until last year we always got something new when the old item was nearly paid off.It turns out that even if you have only 1 payment left on an old item and you get something new the whole lot gets refinanced including said item that nealr paid off so that item is not yours for another three years basically.

Anyway last year my partner got a pc from these idiots and was told "it would only add a couple of pounds a week onto your balance" so she signed the contract without even looking at the figures, turns out it more than doubled our payments and a few months later the account manager that signed us up for the pc got the sack for doing the same thing to other people, but buy as you view say we cant do a thing because we signed the contract, even though to me thats miss selling am i correct in that?

Then a few weeks ago me and my partner decide enough is enough and we want facts and figures infront of us from bayvlink3.gif i.e .paperwork, stating how much we have paid up to now ,copies of original agreements,and what do we legally own.We were told someone would contact us in two days as the main office cant gewt that infomation(that was 2 weeks ago).So we rang back and kicked off only to be told this time they dont keep that info on how much we have paid thats for us to do through our bank statements!!!!!.

I dont know what to do form here but our household has been hit hard in the pcoket this year and everything we are trying is falling on deaf ears.Doesanyone have any advice on if wer have been miss sold the pc and on how we can get our hands on our paperwork?.

 

Thanks

 

This has clearly become massively over-complicated, with re-financed agreements, broken items, disposed of items and seemingly empty promises from BAYV.

 

My suggestion would be to send the company a subject access request - SAR - and get to the bottom once and for all of what you have had, how much you have paid, and what balance (if any) is required to settle your agreement.

 

You should also write to cancel any service cover agreements you have.

 

You may like to contact the CAG approved Buy As You View company rep HERE and request he takes a good look at your case. Quite clearly communications have now broken down between you and your Customer Account Manager.

 

Keep us posted as to how you get on.

 

Lefty

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Hi again

 

I think it is about time you finally sat down with someone senior at Buy As You View and sorted things out, because from what I can see, this has been going on since at least October 2009... (You may remember your first post from back then...)

 

 

 

This has clearly become massively over-complicated, with re-financed agreements, broken items, disposed of items and seemingly empty promises from BAYV.

 

My suggestion would be to send the company a subject access request - SAR - and get to the bottom once and for all of what you have had, how much you have paid, and what balance (if any) is required to settle your agreement.

 

You should also write to cancel any service cover agreements you have.

 

You may like to contact the CAG approved Buy As You View company rep HERE and request he takes a good look at your case. Quite clearly communications have now broken down between you and your Customer Account Manager.

 

Keep us posted as to how you get on.

 

Lefty

 

 

CHeers lefty

 

 

Did get into contact in 2009 with someone senior at BAYV and got nothing but empty promises to be honest.And when asked for all records BAYV had on us(not SAR though i might add) they sent a load a4 size documents with half of every pages details cut off,so were quite clearly withholding infomation.I do think the SAR is the way to go,and if the BAYV contact on here is the same one as 2009 i wont hold out much hope.But am willing to try to get this sorted.

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UPDATE: Well after lots pf phone calls and escalating the matter to our Regional Manager,there is light at the end of the tunnel.BAYV have offered us a discount on our account plus replacement of goods,new products at cost price upto £1100 or clearing our account altogether for the poor service we had received.

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UPDATE: Well after lots pf phone calls and escalating the matter to our Regional Manager,there is light at the end of the tunnel.BAYV have offered us a discount on our account plus replacement of goods,new products at cost price upto £1100 or clearing our account altogether for the poor service we had received.

 

So which option did you take ?? and have they fulfilled their promise ??

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clearing i hope!

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi, if your account manager is due to call this week, may I suggest that you speak to him/her.

if you are not happy with the service you receive from him/her, you can escalate your problem to his/her manager who will deal with it.

 

Alternatively, private message me with your contact details and I'll definitely look into it for you.

 

Best regards

BAYV

Hi gang,

 

Well after months(check my previous posts) of trying to get BAYV to do something about our faulty good im at the final straw.

BAYV are due to collect money from me this week to which they will not recieve ONE PENNY until they replace the items that are broken.Its a joke for me to be paying £160+ every eight weeks for items i can not use.At NO point i was made aware that when i took another item out from BAYV the whol package would be refinanced and i would own NOTHING.Also when i took out the P.C in 2007 i think it was i was mislead into the amount of repayments i would be making.When my payments rocketed and had to be refinanced the senior manager that came out to sort it out said the individual in question was SACKED for doing the same thing to other people(would that not make my origianal agreement void?)

Ive had posts replied to on here From BAYV to say they would get the manufacturers to sort out the cooker that was broke..guess what no phone call.....i rang BAYV to try and sort out among other things a broken Nintedo ds to which i was told someone would call round to pick up the ds to see what they could do ,guess what?....same again NO CALL.

Now i know this may seem rather extreme to withhold payment,but the way i see it BAYV has left me with NO other course of action.Its like banging my head against a brick wall.The coin meter is only attached to MY tv which i OWN by my tv cable which ive cut.NO damage what so ever has been caused to the meter or its power cord and of course BAYV will be getting their meter back when they call.

IM NOT SAYING IM NOT PAYING FOR THE GOODS WHAT I AM SAYING IS I WANT THE ITEMS THAT I DONT OWN AND STILL PAYING FOR TO BE REPLACED!.

 

Sorry for the rant guys.

 

P.S. could someone point me in the right direction for all the templete letters No doubt im going to need to keep these sharks at bay.

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This company is a joke. Why can't they do the decent thing and sort out theproblem. In my opinion they have 2 options

 

1. Do business properly, give good service, resolve queries in a timely manner

 

or

 

2. Do us all a favour and Dissolve the company with Companies House.

 

My advice to any person on here who has problems with these clowns:

 

1. Withhold any payment

2. Charge them storage for their goods which are faulty

3. Issue them with a Letter before Action adding all costs and statutory interest onto it

4. Obtain judgement by default

5. Instruct bailiffs to recover debt from them.

 

Alternatively issue them with a Stutory Demand for said amount and if they fail make a push to dissolve the company I'm sure a number of people on here who have had problems with them would contribute to the cost of a Winding Up Petition

 

No prizes for guessing what I do for a living

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