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    • Thank you, just received letter back " acknowledging that the account is now Statute Barred, whilst they do not consider that they have breached any law or regulatory guidelines, the account has been withdrawn from their regular collections process and closed. You won't be contacted by us our agents regarding this matter".   Thank you all for your help, nice to finally get it settled.
    • The points are that you believe that a person or court hearing a Statutory Declaration has the option of rejecting it if he or they believe it is untrue. You must presumably believe that the person or court has a duty to question (perhaps more properly, cross-examine) the person making the declaration. You started by saying this about the declaration as a whole then went on to concentrate on the 21 day rule. I asked you to let us know how you have arrived at that conclusion. In particular I asked why you had provided specific advice to the OP in the original thread (a) that she was likely to be questioned about whether she really did not know of the proceedings at all and (b) if she did not know at all, that she was likely to be questioned about whether she really found out less that 21 days before she makes her SD. I suggested it was unwise to warn the OP of something which would not happen. As far as I can recall you suggested that S14 of the MCA provides for SDs to be rejected if they are not satisfied as to its truth and I asked you to show me where the legislation is that provides for this (because it's certainly not in S14).   The position is that a Statutory Declaration must be heard if made within 21 days of the defendant finding out about the conviction and it will be accepted unchallenged. If it is made outside 21 days the defendant states why as part of the declaration. If the court agrees that the reason it was late (as stated by the defendant and without challenge) is acceptable it will hear the Declaration and once it is heard it will be accepted without question. For the final time, the making of a Statutory Declaration is not a court hearing and apart from being satisfied, in the case of a late declaration being made, that the reason (as stated by the defendant) is acceptable, those hearing it have no discretion but to hear it and sign it to say they have done so. No orders are made; no decisions are made; no discretion is available (apart from the 21 day matter I mentioned).   To emphasise the difficulty your misleading information has caused, the latest post from the OP on the original thread says this (when considering her court appearance on Wednesday):   I am hopeful that they will accept that I knew nothing of the earlier proceedings...   She should not have no worry about that because the court has no option but to accept her declaration that she knew nothing of the proceedings. However, because of your advice she has. I am, once again, about to allay her fears on that score and it would be useful if you didn't tell her otherwise.    
    • So ignore any calls/letters off DCAs and try and work with PayPal directly to pay small amounts that I can afford?  Like ive said, I’ve opened a new bank account and transferred my regular in’s and out’s to that account. I’ve removed my old debit card from PayPal but left on there my old bank account info, reason being I’m hoping that makes it easier to send payments to PayPal. Does this seem a good idea? 
    • Ahh, discussion thread. Thank whoever. Forgotten what the points were  now, I will read and get back later.
    • I have completed answers as noted above.   Name of the Claimant ?  IDEM Capital Securities Limited Date of issue – 12 Nov 2019   What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? a)      A credit card agreement made between MBNA Europe Bank Limited and the cardholder b)     Claimant purchased the balance on the account on xx/2016 c)      Cardholder accrued balance £5500 d)     Cardholder defaulted on payments e)      Claimant issued formal demand requesting payment on xx/2019 f)       Amount now due £ 5500 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC ( Pre Action Protocol) ?  Yes Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a What is the total value of the claim? £6000 (now including fees) Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account?  Credit Card Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? By post When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? July 1995 Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/ Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim.  Debt Purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment?  Yes Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor?  Yes -though I am unable to find a copy Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Default sums” – at least once a year ?  Unsure Why did you cease payments? Advised to as there was no enforceable CCA What was the date of your last payment? Feb 2019 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved?  Unsure Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan?  Originally informed MBNA that we were in difficulty and arranged a payment plan with them, they later sold the debt to Britannia Sarl (?) and we continued with the same payments, this was then sold to Moorcroft and we again continued the same payments. At some point later we contacted Moorcroft to advise our circumstances had changed and we offered a lower payment.  We were asked for income and expenses which we didn’t provide as we had contacted a debt help organisation who helped us work out what we could afford, however we did receive a letter on another debt at the same time accepting a lower payment (the circumstances were exactly the same – MBNA debt, sold to Britannia, sold onto Moorcroft) We continued with the lower payments.  In the last year we discovered that all our other debts were no longer showing on our credit files but this one was showing as continual defaults month on month. We contacted IDEM to ask why and they said the previous DCA hadn’t agreed to the lower payment and therefore we were continuing to default. At this point I sought advice from CAG and they advised me to ask for the CCA. I received a photocopy of the original application form and a page of Terms and Conditions that I was advised by CAG were not a CCA and I should stop paying.   I further received a pre-action protocol which I completed and returned and in response I received a notice of assignment, account statement and default notice  as I had requested, but they ignored the fact that I said they had provided an unenforceable CCA.
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Just read that again and consider that IMHO the selling of our data

gleaned from OUR credit files is an unfair business practice, going to print that out and send with my submission to

my MP.


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Yes I am sure they have been taken to task on this many times since 2006.We have had 2 or 3 big cases documented on the site where individuals have taken on CRAs in the Courts.

Experian think they are too big to be challenged.


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Lets all that the whole thing of government depts. using CRA's goes pear shaped.


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Seems damned if you do damned if you dont.

 

I had to get my credit file to fight unlawful charges yesterday and check my default notices. Today I have had 4 calls from utility companies offering different things. Never had any such calls before. Also texts from lowell . they have only been able to contact me by letter before. How do they get away with this

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they dont

any com can have a flag on your details that lets them know you have been to your cra and changed things

 

dunno about the marketing calls

if you've just signed up

youhave to tick a box to say no to 'special offers'

 

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The DCA's Cannot sell or pass on your details other than to the companies who are providing

the information, the CRA's don,'t gather the information it is supplied to them


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What they do though is offer Target lists.Read this it is quite interesting.

They admit that opt outs can be a problem,but appear to boast that they can offer some kind of gap fill.

 

http://www.callcredit.co.uk/products-and-services/consumer-marketing-data-and-segmentation/core?gclid=COi_v5_566kCFcce4Qodvg8mVg


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It is interesting Martin, as I use all the CRA's for work had a look at some sample ''listings''

on the address list it is basically a phone book disc, the other note a household that has perhaps

had insurance quotations etc .

 

All of seems to be no more than any marketing agency in house out would have on file.

BUT I STILL DON'T LIKE IT:!:


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I was looking at their stats on individual areas,which show % of people who have chosen to opt out.

I think if more people were actually aware of what was happening here,the opt out figures would be much greater.

These days,there is also more of a call to be giving out emails and mobile numbers,in everyday situations,whether this be making a purchase online,or a simple enquiry.

Many people,tired of getting spam emails,or unwanted sales calls,end up changing numbers and using multiple email accounts,but no one should be having to do this.


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The crux of the matter is I think that a very great deal of the time the public are not

made aware that they can opt out ,or the option to do do so is small and or hidden away,

there needs to be greater transparency.

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Can't believe it's coincidence. I request Credit Report from xperian then this happens.Lived here nearly 18 months. NEVER had one phone call from anyone trying to sell me anything and NEVER had any junk mail in my name. After less than a week the poor postman is on the floor carrying my junk mail. lol Any one else had this happen ??/

 

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Yes this demonstrates what we are talking about.

Brig will know I commented on another thread,this relates to people who try to clean up their credit files and settle on debt,or else maybe one of their entries falls off after the SB.

It seems that the CRAs then notify any other lenders or assignees of defaulted accounts listed on the CRF that the subject may now be in a position to pay more,or else start to pay.

This is absurd and blows out of the water,any message the CRA might want you to digest from them,that they can help you to improve your credit score.....well of course they can-by ensuring any creditors are advised of your current status.

With this sort of arrangement going on,they have a lot to answer for.


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Obviously they are all in bed together Martin !!

 

 

 

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Hmmm So Mr Joe Bloggs like you or I can bury their head in the sands because they are scared by DCA's into believing they owe money.

 

When infact, many don't owe anything. The aledged debt is , in many cases, nothing but unlawfull charges.

 

 

Then when we decide to eventually take a stance and sort things out , we are told to first get a credit report.

 

The CRA's then make the situation even worse by letting anyone else know they can send letters to get unlawful charges tooo and put more pressure on !!!! SSSSSSSSSO Joe Bloggs thinks it is unsurmountable .......and caves in.!!!! Hmmm. (Sorry for spellings)

Just feel so strongly about this. It is soooooo wrong .

 

 

Only in England

 

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Yes you got it in 1.

 

There have been some successes from people challenging adverse credit markers which were due to charges.

This happened with bank charges until the Supreme Court ruled in the banks favour a couple of years back.

But credit card defaults and others are still open to challenge.

Some additional Consumer regs and a revision of the banking codes may also give cause to challenge not only the actual reporting,but also any unfair business practices which led up to that.

There is still scope to beat them then,but it is often an arduous task.


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re cra defaults, see for eg

s159 consumer credit act (as amended)

[ATTACH=CONFIG]30804[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH]30805[/ATTACH]

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s159 could, indeed, prove quite useful! depending on the circumstances!


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I might be sounding cynical but I love the comment in the 'guidance on defaults' where unresolved disputes mean difficult decisions are to be made. Ahem, I've never yet seen a creditor issuing a default notice with one iota of concern for the (alleged) defaulter whatsoever. They happily will take your money and default you because, dependant on their own 'points' system the notice will just 'click in'.

 

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I might be sounding cynical but I love the comment in the 'guidance on defaults' where unresolved disputes mean difficult decisions are to be made. Ahem, I've never yet seen a creditor issuing a default notice with one iota of concern for the (alleged) defaulter whatsoever. They happily will take your money and default you because, dependant on their own 'points' system the notice will just 'click in'.

 

Michael

 

Surely a default notice is issued by the creditor to give the

debtor an opportunity to rectify the dispute and not incur

any further charges or penaties.


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Surely a default notice is issued by the creditor to give the

debtor an opportunity to rectify the dispute and not incur

any further charges or penaties.

 

Well I guess they will still accept your payments (:whoo:) however for 6 years that default is around your neck wheather or not you pay the debt off. A potential creditor does not look at the word 'satisfied' but 'default' and as one sees on a CRA file it's in red, it is to someone who searches.

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Well I guess they will still accept your payments (:whoo:) however for 6 years that default is around your neck wheather or not you pay the debt off. A potential creditor does not look at the word 'satisfied' but 'default' and as one sees on a CRA file it's in red, it is to someone who searches.

Michael

 

Well if you fail to rectify the default, what do you expect, rectify the arrears then no default entry.


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Well if you fail to rectify the default, what do you expect, rectify the arrears then no default entry.

 

I'm sorry but the default will remain even if you clear the debt. The entry might well say 'satisfied' however the default stays (and shows as such) for the 6 years and any potential creditor will see it.

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I'm sorry but the default will remain even if you clear the debt. The entry might well say 'satisfied' however the default stays (and shows as such) for the 6 years and any potential creditor will see it.

Michael

I see you are confused if you receive a default notice and rectify

the default within the time scale allowed there will be no default

to record.


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