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    • Hi @BankFodder
      Sorry for only updating you now, but after your guidance with submitting the claim it was pretty straight forward and I didn't want to unnecessarily waste your time. Especially with this guide you wrote here, so many thanks for that
      So I issued the claim on day 15 and they requested more time to respond.
      They took until the last day to respond and denied the claim, unsurprisingly saying my contract was with Packlink and not with them.
       
      I opted for mediation, and it played out very similarly to other people's experiences.
       
      In the first call I outlined my case, and I referred to the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 as the reason to why I do in fact have a contract with them. 
       
      In the second call the mediator came back with an offer of the full amount of the phone and postage £146.93, but not the court costs. I said I was not willing to accept this and the mediator came across as a bit irritated that I would not accept this and said I should be flexible. I insisted that the law was on my side and I was willing to take them to court. The mediator went back to Hermes with what I said.
       
      In the third call the mediator said that they would offer the full amount. However, he said that Hermes still thought that I should have taken the case against Packlink instead, and that they would try to recover the court costs themselves from Packlink.
       
      To be fair to them, if Packlink wasn't based in Spain I would've made the claim against them instead. But since they are overseas and the law lets me take action against Hermes directly, it's the best way of trying to recover the money.
       
      So this is a great win. Thank you so much for your help and all of the resources available on this site. It has helped me so much especially as someone who does not know anything about making money claims.
       
      Many thanks, stay safe and have a good Christmas!
       
       
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yep its a wonderful corrupt system that has been created..where only the fittest survive....darwinism in action....the rich at the top of the heap doing exactly what they want..whilst the rest of us scramble around for the crumbs.....labour arent going to save us...they are simply conservatives in sheeps clothing and osdset is exactly as usual spot on...it was them that started this welfare reform....the tory's have just carried it on...we still would have had a similar situation if brown had managed to win.....so where do we go? I'm lucky fast heading towards 60 so I am not going to be around to see the future...but by god it looks bleak for my kids and grandkids....

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Lets not forget that Labour instigated the Remploy Closure Programme in 2008 .... the justification for closing then as now is that the subsidy per job through Remploy (£25,000) is considerably greater than the subsidy per job through the then Flexible New Deal and Work Programme.

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Lets also not forget that the taxpayer subsidy for the Commons catering service rose to £5.8 million last year, for every £10 an MP spent on food and drink, the taxpayer added a top-up of £7.60.

 

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges

 

Being poor is like being a Pelican. No matter where you look, all you see is a large bill.

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Lets also not forget that the taxpayer subsidy for the Commons catering service rose to £5.8 million last year, for every £10 an MP spent on food and drink, the taxpayer added a top-up of £7.60.

ah yes....but you have to remember these people need this service and more..they work incredibly hard for their constituents and country...excuse me whilst i choke....

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oh, i think you will find those days are long gone....the gullible population probably thinks its a wonderful idea that the workshy are being forced to help out for nothing at the jubilee...

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We have them working in our office, they have to get a full check etc, then do jobs such as analysing the staff survey, organising the lean boards etc.

Its not good, they have no chance of a job at the end of it, and look bored to tears most of the time or walk around in a huddle.

They have no access to any systems.

They seem young, very young and its very sad...

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I sat there watching the jubilee celebrations and our Queen. It was good, but i couldn't get out of my mind those poor kids out in the cold with only a plastic poncho, t shirt and combat trousers. That could have been my grandson as he has been out of work and comes from one of the areas the slaves.. whoops, volunteers came from.

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Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges

 

Being poor is like being a Pelican. No matter where you look, all you see is a large bill.

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Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges

 

Being poor is like being a Pelican. No matter where you look, all you see is a large bill.

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puts me in mind of my dear old Mum. She wrote to various governments and MPs demanding to kno0w when her "Post War Credits" would be paid.

They were eventually though, of course, in much devalued currency.

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Reminds me of my dear old Mum.

Had a bee in her bonnet abouit post war credits and wrote to many MPs demanding that they keep their promise to refund these voluntary loans soon after WW2.

Eventually they were repaid but in much devalued 60s currency.

never trust a politician eh?

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Lord Prescott has just demanded a public enquiry into the behaviour of the 'close protection' racket'

 

Source:ITV- London Today 06/06/2012

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It brilliant that one of the pimp Companys have been caught with their trousers down - sorry no pun meant in this case - intended as the old fashioned comment - It at last has been brought into the open only one of the many types of abuse these Providers are using, anyone official that believes that it was - Only an accident Sir - should take off their official blinkers. :mad2:

 

This Company should have their Licence to provide Security at the Olympics withdrawn - perhaps this would give the Big Frequent Offenders a boot up the rear to clean up their activities. Well we can but hope. Perhaps hell will freeze over before the "Investigation" even gets under way. :-x

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Interesting to note that all the job seekers were coached in from Bristol, Bath, and Portsmouth, none were from London. These people were offered the carrot of a job Stewarding at the Olympics which is being held in London, was the 'camping' experience a lead up to what they could expect if getting a place? Camping out for the duration of the placement?

 

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges

 

Being poor is like being a Pelican. No matter where you look, all you see is a large bill.

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That did cross my mind osdset that none were Locals - are Tomorrows People only Coastal or do they cover Home Counties and Outer London. If they cover more Local Areas why bus people so far.

 

Late on Wed night on TV the Tomorrows People Boss said the People had been booked into a Camp Site with Facilities etc. if that was the case why were they dumped under a Bridge and I remember one of the people said they could'nt put tents on concrete - so that possibly WAS the Camp Site - Someone is lying - It doesn't take many guesses who ! :evil:

 

When I looked at the Link that showed the Company Finances it looked to me that they would be very lucky to last untill the Olympics - Perhaps that is why they are bringing in people from distances in order to collect a Handout for giving them work and then the people wont be able to claim the Job Start for another 6 months because there has been a break in their JSA - more money saved for DWP

 

I would love to know with a FOI Question "How many Jobs are waiting for these people and the Olympics Stewards local to where they live? "

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I know that there was at least one camp site situated in a park in West Ham, which is about a mile from Stratford in East London.

 

Stratford is part of Newham which is one of the poorest boroughs in London, there are currently nine job seekers for every vacancy almost twice the national average.

 

Newham has more than enough of it's own unemployed available to fill any vacancy at the Olympic games many times over, I would like to know why priority is not being given to local job seekers, this is a double blow to the area as when the Olympic site was under construction most of the workforce were imported from virtually every area except Newham.

 

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges

 

Being poor is like being a Pelican. No matter where you look, all you see is a large bill.

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The (excellent) Huffington Post has an article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/06/05/kerry-mccarthy-mp-jubilee-workfare-unemployed_n_1570067.html?ref=mostpopular

and an open letter to Ed Milliband from backbench MPEoin Clarke:

http://eoin-clarke.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/open-letter-to-ed-miliband.html?spref=tw

 

I can't help thinking how ironic it would be if the bastion of right wing toryism (the monarchy) was inadvertently responsible for the destruction of the Tory's flagship policy. Long way to go yet though. "Eating Elepahants is easy - one bite at a time" is one of the many silly, supposedly motivational slogans stuck to the wall of my local A4e prison - may be true in this case. Keep chipping away.

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Hmm! Just noticed that this page has a pop up advert for A4e's/Enemma Harrison's "Money Advice" company. Bit dubious that.

 

I wonder if they can advise how to acquire for personal use £8.6 million of taxpayer's dosh?

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I would love to know with a FOI Question "How many Jobs are waiting for these people and the Olympics Stewards local to where they live? "

if this was a 'genuine' opportunity then i also wonder how many who had to undergo this degrading spectacle were offered permanent employment with this wonderful company......my guess ZERO.......

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On your JSA agreement, (JSAg) it tells you how far you're expected to travel to look for work. Depending on how many weeks you've been claiming for, this can be 60 or 90 minutes. So, how could they get away with sending people 4 hours away?

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I wouldn't trust 'Close Protection UK' to guard a bag of spuds after reading that. Rather a grand company name for such a seemingly poor looking outfit. Dumping bus loads of unemployed people under a bridge and asking them to pitch tents on concrete, making them freeze because the bus driver was 2 hours early (why not wait on the bus for 2 hours!), giving them nowhere to change etc etc Does not give the impression of an elite organisation.

 

I wonder if Close Protection UK are going to be responsible for guarding any of the surface to air missile sites that will be scattered around London during the Olympics.

 

Well I guess it beats paying for security!

 

WELL DONE W2W!!!

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