Big plunge time

[Woodman87]

Right been Reading threads here for a while now and thought I'd get my personal finance mess sorted seen people with various amounts of loans but think I may be the 'winner' in terms of stupidity.

So here goes

quick quid-£500

payday Uk-£375

payday express-£350

cash genie-£97.50

wageday advance-£162.50

wonga-£117

1st stop-£203

capital finance one-£625

tower capital-£155

lending stream £367

speed-e-loans-£ 129

24/7 moneybox-136.74

txt loan-£236

toothfairy finance-£688

uncle buck-£390

1 month loan-£292.50

speedydosh-£340

conversmoney-£126

 

total owed-£5312

 

I defaulted on all of them at the end of may and have been following the advice on here re:- email payment plans, pick up the phone when it rings etc. The plans I offered were as follows

 

quick quid- £ 62.50 for 8 months

paydayuk- £42 for 8m

payday express- £35 for 10m

cash genie-£19.50 for 5m

wda-£16.25 for 10m

wonga-£13 for 9m

1st stop-£22.50 for 9m

CFO-£69.50 for 9m

tower capital-£15.50 for 10m

l/stream- £36.70 for 10m

speed-e-loan-£12.90 for 10m

24/7-£15.22 for 9m

txtloan-£29.50 for 8m

toothfairy-£68.80 for 10m

uncle buck-£390-£48.75 for 8m

1ml-£32.50 for 9m

speedydosh-£38 for 9m

conversmoney-£25.20 for 5m

total of payments-£613.22

 

I can just afford this but means cutting on my lifestyle.

the only thing I'm really worried about is that I live with my parents and was wondering if their credit rating will be affected by the defaults etc. I can't talk to them about money (previous credit card problems that I've now dealt with) so the option of taking a loan out with them is out of the question. I'd probably be thrown out the house. I can't sleep at night for worry and I've been to the doctors and I'm currently on meds for depression due to my inability to life within my means.

 

Any help,info or support would be much appreciated as these forums are the only thing keeping me sane

 

 

 

needless to say I don't need to be told how

[Woodman87]

Sorry scrap that last line

[indebt00]

wow you have dealt with your loans in a good manner, your parents credit rating will not be affected it will only be yours x

[ihateyes]

havent dealt with half of the companies, but you will need to persist.

i would ing each company once, then email til they accept..... lendingstream i know will agree to payment plan, but dont anwser emails.

pde express wont agree to anything..... is none of them accepts, put the money aside each month... vey unlikely any of them would go court route, but if 6mths down the line they did go to court, at least when u go you have 6mths of money... looks better and shows you were serious about your payment plan, when you go with 6mths money!!!

 

they all threaten court but vey few actually go that far..

[sillygirl1]

Would it be possible to pay it back by snowballing, by pro-rataing some of these you are leaving yourself open to a long time paying them back... with snowballing you put them all into a 'pot' similar to a self administered dmp (but don't tell the companies that) and 'them what shouts loudest gets least'.

 

The first month you pay off a couple of the small loans, eg the ones below £250 and pay the others £35 each, then the next month pay off another loan, then the same the next month. Some of these lenders will pass the debt onto a DCA who will offer 'substantial discounts' which you then accept and pay off over 3 months. I got rid of 6 loans at one time in 7 months with this method.

 

I do hope you also remember the golden rules here,

 

1. Keep everything in writing, do not phone, emails are great as you have positive proof of what is said/agreed.

2. Work on the basis that the original (or last) loan amount plus one months interest is what the court would deem owed (this is due to their high interest rates, stupid unjustifiable fees and unreasonableness in not accepting part payments)

3. Get an alternative bank account as many of the companies will empty your account 'at will'. Halifax do an online account and you don't get a credit check with it, so does the Co-op and the Post Office.

4. If they threaten bailiffs will come and take 9 times the value of the loan from you that is a blatant lie, bailiffs cannot come unless a court order is obtained and even then what they can take is very very limited. You also would have had to default on the court order in order for a bailiff to be appointed. Many of these use 'in house' services such as Marshall Hoares and Daniels Silverman who aren't licenced for doorstep collection.

5. If anyone does threaten contact the following organisations

 

http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk - Office of Fair Trading

http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk - Trading Standards

Ministry of Justice

 

Keep us informed if anyone plays around and we will give further advice.

 

If anyone does send court papers scan them on here and we can verify if they are genuine or not.

 

Keep up the good work, now you have taken control of the situation you should be able to see light at the end of a tunnel.

 

Another bit of advice is try to keep a spreadsheet of the debts and repayments made 'just in case' and give yourself a small 'reward' at the end of every other month after repaying a loan back, eg trip to cinema, night out, takeaway meal. That way you will feel that it is 'worth the hassle and anxiety' and not fall back into the trap again.

[Woodman87]

Hi guys, thanks for all your posts it's nice to hear from people who have been/are in the same boat. The snowballing plan sounds sillygirl but if I've already offered set amounts to the companies, will it help the situation if I then lower the amount I'm offering them?

 

I've set up an alternative account already and changed my bank details with work etc.

 

From Reading on here it's been said that capital finance one and toothfairyfinance are particularly hard to deal with. They've both already passed me on to a company called nothern debt recovery but on here it seems to be part of the same company?

 

Also has anyone been taken to court by any of these companies as I'm bricking it at the thought of me in the courtroom?

 

Spreadsheet is already set up to keep tabs on my situation.

 

Thanks again for the support guys

 

 

I've agreed plans with 1st stop, payday Uk, cash genie and 1 month loan and set standing orders up.

[LK85]

Hi,How have uncle buck been with you? I'm scared to default with them at the mo (they have cheques and i dont know the numbers),

[Woodman87]

Phoned them once, unwilling to set up a payment plan for the amount I can pay so I've just been emailing them daily with my offer. I didn't send them cheques for the original loan as it was all done online. Can you check the stubs of your cheque book to find the numbers then call your bank and tell them the book was stolen and to cancel all cheques that haven't been paid out yet. Not sure if it will work but worth a go

[Woodman87]

Right toothfairy have been in contact as themselves and NDR.

They're now saying that they'll be passing the debt over to Marshall hoares. From Reading on here it seems that they're also the same company operating under a different name. The email says they'll threaten ccj's and court etc. Has anyone had them turn up at the door yet?

[26072004]

Once Toothfairy have passed the debt onto NDR and they have been in contact its illegal for Toothfairy to chase you for the debt.

 

The OFT rules state only one company can chase you for outstanding debt to stop harrassment.

 

cant say it enough report Toothfairy to the OFT, every other thread on this site seems to be about Toothfaiy at the moment the OFT will have to do something if everyone complains.

[Woodman87]

Reported them last night. Should I copy in oft to all

my future correspondance with them?

[Woodman87]

Right guys been Reading on here about cca requests quite a lot. Is it worth going down this route with any of my lenders?

I've managed to set up payment plans with cash genie, Pduk, 1ml, 1st stop, speedy dosh and txt loan so far.

 

Starting to see the light at the end of tunnel!

[sillygirl1]

If you have the original agreements then you don't need to CCA. A different part of the CCA Act applies to Payday Loans (Section 87) so you can't go down the default notice and termination notice route as you would with a bank account.

 

The reason for this being that when the loan term has expired (at the end of the month) your contract is automatically terminated as the whole amount becomes due... they cannot charge 'double interest' or anything like it.

 

You should negotiate with them on the basis of orignal loan amount plus one months interest.

[Woodman87]

So should be be adding into my emails that now the loan term has elapsed it should only be 1 month plus interest etc?

 

Sorry for the barrage of questions but I'm just trying to make sure I get things right.

[sillygirl1]

I would, and state that Sectiou 87 of the CCA act now applies... after all they like to quote the law to you!

[Woodman87]

Update. 2 paid off completely 6 others on payment plan. I got a voicemail left on my home phone from 24/7 moneybox which my parents picked up. On the voicemail the member of staff reeled off a spiel about me not being in contact despite my several emails asking them not to contact me at home. Parents have hit the roof. Are they allowed to discuss personal details on a voicemail (surely on a home phone that is not allowed)?

[26072004]

No they are not.

 

report them (do you still have the message) to the OFT straight away

[26072004]

No they are not.

 

report them (do you still have the message) to the OFT straight away

[Woodman87]

Had an email from DS about the CFO debt, replied giving them all my issues, cca act 87 etc.

They replied asking why my debt is in dispute with CFO. What do I tell them?

[steveyoung1]

Hi - If it helps, I am in default with Wonga, I managed to get this email address, I emailed stating my situation, and together we set up a repayment plan of £112 a month for 8 months. Hope it helps. Also I'm having difficulty with Speed Credit, trading as part of Toothfairy Finance, been threatened with similar Baliffs and Northern Debt etc etc, until you have been to court and had an order against you, noone is legally allowed to come door knocking and taking your possesions, its empty threats. Possibility of taking you to court? Not sure I'm afraid, just keep all correspondence.

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