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    • I came across this discussion recently and just wanted to give my experience of A Shade Greener that may help others regarding their boiler finance agreement.
      We had a 10yr  finance contract for a boiler fitted July 2015.
      After a summer of discontent with ASG I discovered that if you have paid HALF the agreement or more you can legally return the boiler to them at no cost to yourself. I've just returned mine the feeling is liberating.
      It all started mid summer during lockdown when they refused to service our boiler because we didn't have a loft ladder or flooring installed despite the fact AS installed the boiler. and had previosuly serviced it without issue for 4yrs. After consulting with an independent installer I was informed that if this was the case then ASG had breached building regulations,  this was duly reported to Gas Safe to investigate and even then ASG refused to accept blame and repeatedly said it was my problem. Anyway Gas Safe found them in breach of building regs and a compromise was reached.
      A month later and ASG attended to service our boiler but in the process left the boiler unusuable as it kept losing pressure not to mention they had damaged the filling loop in the process which they said was my responsibilty not theres and would charge me to repair, so generous of them! Soon after reporting the fault I got a letter stating it was time we arranged a powerflush on our heating system which they make you do after 5 years even though there's nothing in the contract that states this. Coincidence?
      After a few heated exchanges with ASG (pardon the pun) I decided to pull the plug and cancel our agreement.
      The boiler was removed and replaced by a reputable installer,  and the old boiler was returned to ASG thus ending our contract with them. What's mad is I saved in excess of £1000 in the long run and got a new boiler with a brand new 12yr warranty. 
      You only have to look at TrustPilot to get an idea of what this company is like.
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    • Dazza a few months ago I discovered a good friend of mine who had ten debts with cards and catalogues which he was slavishly paying off at detriment to his own family quality of life, and I mean hardship, not just absence of second holidays or flat screen TV's.
      I wrote to all his creditors asking for supporting documents and not one could provide any material that would allow them to enforce the debt.
      As a result he stopped paying and they have been unable to do anything, one even admitted it was unenforceable.
      If circumstances have got to the point where you are finding it unmanageable you must ask yourself why you feel the need to pay.  I guarantee you that these companies have built bad debt into their business model and no one over there is losing any sleep over your debt to them!  They will see you as a victim and cash cow and they will be reluctant to discuss final offers, only ways to keep you paying with threats of court action or seizing your assets if you have any.
      They are not your friends and you owe them no loyalty or moral duty, that must remain only for yourself and your family.
      If it was me I would send them all a CCA request.   I would bet that not one will provide the correct response and you can quite legally stop paying them until such time as they do provide a response.   Even when they do you should check back here as they mostly send dodgy photo copies or generic rubbish that has no connection with your supposed debt.
      The money you are paying them should, as far as you are able, be put to a savings account for yourself and as a means of paying of one of these fleecers should they ever manage to get to to the point of a successful court judgement.  After six years they will not be able to start court action and that money will then become yours.
      They will of course pursue you for the funds and pass your file around various departments of their business and out to third parties.
      Your response is that you should treat it as a hobby.  I have numerous files of correspondence each faithfully organised showing the various letters from different DCA;s , solicitors etc with a mix of threats, inducements and offers.   It is like my stamp collection and I show it to anyone who is interested!
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Am surprised just how little most ppl are aware of the fact, that for most common health issues like high blood pressure, diarrhoea, constipation, etc there's at least 1 way of simple, natural cure out there. My tip for sunburn (tried and tested many times on different skin types in my family) is to use natural yogurt (plain with no flavouring) or sour cream. just apply it to the skin with ur fingers in a thick layer and wait for the magic to happen :) It will soothe even the more severe sunburnt skin too, u will actually feel how the skin is "drinking" the nourishment. If the layer of sour cream looks more or less gone, just very gently wipe the remaining off (dont have to do a very thorough job, too harsh wiping or washing off with water will irritate the burnt skin further) and apply another layer if feels necessary.


The slight drawback could be the smell and the stickiness remaining on the skin for a bit, but if u leave it for long enough, say while u watch a film before going to bed at night, it will be fine and just take a shower in the morning, using water as cool as u can handle, and ur normal shower/bath product. Can repeat applying the sour cream as much as u want and for as long as u want. Its all natural and in my case, it always prevented peeling of the skin! Much cheaper than the branded after sun products and works way much better.

Dont use it on extremely burnt skin but go to A&E or a gp. Also, of course its not recommended for anyone with an allergy to mentioned products.


My mum even used this when she burnt her finger pretty bad while cooking - she just dipped her finger quickly in a tub of sour cream instead of holding it under cold, running water and it worked a miracle.

Am using this whenever i need it, i got 3 different after sun products in my drawers, all big brands and not cheap, 1 of them even named to be the SOS treatment for sunburnt skin but the sour cream beats them all by the mile!

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Wing Long Brand, Red Flower Oil. Purchased from Chinese supermarket ( Cheaper ), or from Chinese medical practitioners ( Can be twice the price ), Amazon, Internet ( similar price to supermarket ). Is by far the very best treatment for sunburn, and burns from hot things like fire, stoves, blow torches, welding, etc. that I have ever encountered. I was a plumber, welder and keen home cook. So burns go with the territory.


My GF and I once tried Yogurt for sunburn when on holiday in Cornwall and had left the Red flower oil at home. Yogurt didn’t seem to do all that much for the sun burn. It did soothe it a bit, but we are both very fair skinned. What it did do however, was to attract our damned dogs who relentlessly took every opportunity to take a swiping lick at us! And the flies! My GOD! They drove us both mad! We couldn’t wait to get home and showered and get the red flower oil on. It works much better. Dogs seemingly don’t like the taste, and flies seem to be repelled by it too!


Red Flower oil comes in a small glass bottle, but it goes a very long way. Smear thinly over affected area. Almost total pain relief is near instant. - Depending on severity and nature of burn. Reapply perhaps 2 - 3 times per 24 hrs. If and when the pain returns.


Due to its quite remarkable analgesic / pain relieving qualities. You should take utmost care when washing, dressing undressing. Perhaps best not to wash affected area for a couple of days. Or only do so only very gently when pain comes back so that you are aware and would not therefore scrub the skin. Rinse gently only. Only very mild moisturising soap like Dove if you must, as the burns heal.


The product also seems to promote, or speed up the healing process, and reduce the sun stroke or burn shock effect. This may only be because it prevents drying and cracking. Keep away from eyes.


I recommend the Wing Long Brand, solely because I, my friends and our families have used it for some thirty years with great effect and had no problems. I believe it to be a trustworthy reputable brand.


There was / is an issue with some other makes containing different formulations. Notably: Koong Yick Hung Far Oil, aka Red Flower Oil Manufacturer: Koong Yick & Co. Ltd. Of Singapore contains, according to the USA FDA ( Food and Drug Admin ) a toxic ingredient, Methyl phthalate. - Phthalates are not something you want. Baaaaaad stuff!


The ingredients of Wing long red flower oil are: Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Wintergreen Oil, turpentine oil, camphor oil, Cassia Oil and Clove Leaf Oil. - All known, plant based analgesics. - All Natural ingredients.


Wing Long red flower oil can reputedly be used to treat symptoms related to arthritis, rheumatism, bruises, reducing redness, irritations, itching, swelling, sprains, muscle pains and cramps. I personally find it most effective for sunburn, general burns, and soothing of allergic, irritant rash.


The only negative is the smell. Some people like it, - I don't. To me it smells something like Ralgex, Tiger Balm, or Deep Heat.


Be aware that with sunburn / any burns, that if you feel dehydrated, ( keep your fluids up, sipping slowly. - Too much at once can exacerbate shock. Avoid caffeine and alcohol ). If you start shivering, blister badly etc. Feel nauseous, disorientated. GET TO HOSPITAL OR A DOCTOR QUICKLY! - THIS IS A CASUALTY SITUATION! - You likely have sun / heat stroke. Which can be fatal. Even in the UK.


Throughout the world where cannabis is legal or tolerated. It has for centuries, if not millennia, been recognised and prized for its efficacy in the treatment / alleviation of heat / sunstroke. It has reputedly saved very many lives used in such circumstances. Even the formerly totally intolerant USA acknowledged it as one of if not the most effective treatments. Search Bhang Lassi.

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