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Hi SOM,

 

Good stuff.

 

Just ignore ARC's calls - you have no need to talk to them and they have nothing of any use to say to you.

 

Just a wee word of warning so you don't have a total panic atttack........... there is a good chance that you will hear from a "solicitor" called Trevor Munn. He deals with these low-life gym administrators who so desperately seek to chase money from folk. If he writes to you, just let us know and we'll continue to help you.

 

A letter from Trevor Munn is no more of a threat to you than one from the gym or ARC. They work on peoples fear and ignorance, hoping that a letter from a "solicitor" will scare you into paying money you do not owe.

 

No staying up worrying into the wee small hours about drafting letters tonight !! :sleep:

 

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Thankyou Slick, I already had the letter from Trevor Munn, but after I spoke to Head Office for the 3rd time and got them to call off the dogs, I havent heard anything, only ARC.

 

I really hope this letter works and they stop all the harrassment.

 

Right off to bed now, cann't keep my eyes open. Thanks again.

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OMG the letter they said they sent back at the beginning of March arrived today. Please see attached. It seems like the manager hasnt even investigated the matter at all and just listened to the 2 ladies in membership, who are obviously not telling the truth and the whole story.

 

I was not aggressive or abusive, I was really upset and crying and frustrated, and to make matters worse, Claire was talking over me and not listening to what I was saying, so told her she was rude and uncooperative and didn't want to talk to her but the manager only and put the phone down. That was the same day I found CAG.

 

He's talking about T&C's saying 3 months, but it also says 1 month before the year, and nothing about them confirming, but judging by the way they communicate they seem to have done it on purpose. My friend was able to claw back my emails eventually, and have found the one I sent in July 2010 cancelling and the letter I sent at the beginning of September to confirm the cancellation. Funny how they only acknowledge after my contract ends.

 

Will be replying back to Craig Knowles. :-x

 

Just thought I would update you guys.

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Hi SOM,

 

The document is too small to read properly. See here for info on how to post doc'ts - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/welcome-consumer-forums/107001-how-do-i-dummies.html

 

Re the letter you sent as per post #25 above, was this sent to HO or to the Gym at Bushey.

 

If you haven't already replied to the letter, please wait .

 

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Hi Slick will re-scan the letter and attach it.

 

I have been sending all the letter's registered post to Head Office now, before it was directly to the club.

 

I havent replied yet to this letter as I was fuming and then had a family emergency so had to rush to the hospital...just got back awhile ago. However, I do want to reply to this letter and will run it past you before I send it, but will be tomorrow.

 

Thankyou Slick for all your support and help.

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Hi SOM,

 

You do not need to argue with them about this. They can say what they like about whether they thought you were rude, etc - it doesn't matter, nor does it change anything.

 

If you have now found the email that you sent in July 2010 notifying them of your intention to cancel as of October, when the year's membership was up, that is really all you need.

 

I suggest you reply as follows:-

I refer to your letter of xxth March which I only received on 6th April.

 

I have evidence of the email that I sent to * you/Head Office/DL Bushey in July 2010 confirming my intention to cancel membership when my 12 months was ended. You therefore had ample notice that I would stop my DD in October when my 12 months initial membership ended.

 

If you require sight of the email, let me know and I will supply it once more.

 

I will say, one last time, that I cancelled giving proper notice and I owe you nothing more.

 

I warned you on 25th March that any further demands from you, ARC or Trevor Munn will be reported to the FOS. This will happen without further notice if any of you make further demands.

 

I will also complain to Consumer Direct/Trading Standards.

 

I trust this will not be necessary and sincerely hope this will be the end of the matter.

 

* Use whichever is right

 

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Hi

 

Unfortunately due to a death in the family I have had time to visit this site for awhile. However not heard anything from my anyone regarding my letter from the 5/4/11. Going to now reply back to the manager's letter as I couldn't do it earlier.

 

Will keep this site posted on any news.

 

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Hi Slick. Sorry havent replied. Talk about bad week, its the whole year! My laptop blew after sending u the message. Using my phone 4 emergency use only. Hopefully laptop will be fixed soon. Will be in touch when it does. Thanks.

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Hi SOM,

 

Sorry to hear about your Lappy and let us know when you're back on the case.

 

If you didn't send the letter before the Lappy blew up, get a friend to type it up for you and send it asap.

 

Keep a hard copy for your files.

 

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Hiya

 

Unfortunately still no laptop as yet, so borrowing my sister's to send the latest correspondance I have received from ARC.

 

Sent the letter to Bushey only the other day so haven't heard anything from them.

 

Do I have to reply to these guys? What do I say?

 

This really is the last thing I need at the moment, life seems to be getting harder. Why don't we have a way were we can just prove our cases to these people fairly and humanly, instead of the threats and 3rd party interference. It's funny how they never acknowledge anything within the cancellation period, and then all of a sudden it's after that they start chasing. Also it actually says 1 month cancellation so how can they go to 3 all of a sudden?

 

Sorry rant over, just getting really frustrated with everything.

 

Help would be really appreciated. Thankyou so much.

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Hi SOM,

 

Sorry to see they are continuing with their efforts, which will come as no surprise.

 

I hope your case will be helped when the High Court ruling is made in the case against Ashbourne Management brought by the OFT.

 

In the meantime...............

 

Dear sir or madam,

 

You have chosen to continue to involve yourselves in a matter that remains in dispute.

 

Your actions will therefore now be reported to the FOS who will no doubt decide for themselves if they are willing to investigate your continuing breaches of the OFT Guidelines on Debt Collection.

 

If the matter is passed on to Trevor Munn solicitors again, then a further report to the FOS will be made about them too.

 

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Thankyou Slick, I will get this letter done asap and send it off. ~Still no luck with a lappy, unfortunately friend/neighbour is really busy with work and new baby, but hopefully this weekend he should get it sorted.

 

Hope you are well.

 

Best Regards

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