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    • You're like, super helpful and unhelpful at the same time lol.   What do I search for, I searched form 4, and nothing, I searched claiming compensation and nothing about this.   I can't find the top squares logo.   Can you post a link or tell me what to search.   Sorry if I'm slow.
    • use our custom google search box  click our top squares logo it should appear on that page   dx
    • Apologies, I haven't used a forum for years!!   I defo wish to keep the 2 issues separate, sorry!   My only issue I need help with is the increased compo for marstons - if possible.   I don't know anything about claiming compo etc. (I only recently found out one of the NHS biggest costs are NDA payouts)   I don't know what form 4 is; so far, they've offered £250 and I haven't accepted or denied it.   So yeah, can you forward me to some more info?   Also, usually I'm good at google etc. but I can't find many stories on this stuff, regarding PCN/TFL etc.   Thanks again!
    • ok things are getting clearer...   I've merged 2 of your posts for clarity and removed the swearing, (behave please) I've also taken down the two images you posted should you wish to post things up please use PDF so we can zoom easily and don't forget to redect them read upload carefully.   I think you need to continue to keep the two thing sep. those being increased compo for marstons- if possible ( if you are raising a form 4? complaint through the court - it might be better you don't? - they are very hard to justify and can be costly - so the fact it might not be moving forward could be a good thing, but listen to others here too) and the issue of the PCN wasn't justified - which you need to further expand on please.   the more info you post up the better please but please use multipage PDF files only and carefully redact them    
    • Thanks for trying btw! It's kinda in 2 parts.   1 is that the PCN wasn't justified in the first place and I wasn't aware it had escalated. I received the initial fine from TFL which I challenged and heard nothing back from (for 5 months). Then another letter from a separate PCN which made me email TFL to inquire what was going on but again, heard nothing back.   (BTW I can see how confusing this is so thanks again for trying)   So, I had no idea my car was at the risk of being taken - that's the first part.   No 2. is:   I got a phone call saying my car was on the back of a truck round the corner from mine (they hadn't left any notices or anything, and the car was parked directly outside my house). My friend said they were attaching the straps and securing it to the van (so I think they got it on the back of the van and moved it before securing it).   When I ran round the corner I saw the EA's van. I went upto it and asked what was going on. He was rude and told me to go away. Then after I kept knocking he got out the van and was aggressive and refused to ID himself or tell me why he had my car.   He shouted at me, was rude and unprofessional, he then left with my car. I complained to Marstons and asked for the bodycam footage.   They gave me the footage but it was clearly edited and cut short (because in the beginning of the footage he was the most aggressive).   They then told me he wasn't required to have the camera turned on when he's in the van, only when he's 'actively pursuing a warrant' and I was only allowed the footage I was in. (which is 2 different things) So I asked them to clarify which is true.   Anyway, I reviewed the footage and sent in my complaint (talking about what happened in the footage) They replied and said they watched the footage and disagreed with everything I said.   So I wrote a more in depth response with the CIVEA code to reference + the TFL EA guide etc.    Then they asked for more time, called me and finally apologised and admitted he had acted untoward and was in the wrong.   They then offered me the goodwill payment.   This has taken up weeks of my time, caused me serious trauma and PTSD and even after I complained WITH video evidence, they still initially denied it which means they officially lied, on record, while representing TFL.   I told TFL what was happening they said I had to continue with Marstons etc.   £250 goodwill isn't enough, the car cost £800 to get out, the suspension is messed up and I'd like to claim compensation for everything.   I don't know if that makes me sound like i'm money grabbing or whatever but they shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.   The police had to come before they could call an ambulance cause I was having a panic attack and it was a HORRIBLE experience.    So any help would be great please    I have the whole file from Resolver in a ZIP file but it's a lot of writing and I think you've read enough of my writing to last a life time!   I did a statutory declaration of OOT, got it signed by the court etc. but it was rejected.   I then tried to take them to court but it cost £250 I think which I don't have. You can get it for free if your low income but they wanted bank statements that I couldn't get. They're waiting for me to reply with documents to get a free court date.    did you receive any of the pcn's - was that why you appealed? - Yes, sorry!   unless it's trying secure a greater level of compo from marstons? - Yes, sorry!   For the record I just saw this pop up, read it and now feel much less guilty about my enquiry!
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I'm asking this on behalf of my best friend who also works in the same company as me. A small store but part of a huge retail chain. Well my friend has recently been promoted to a team leader and on the 2nd Febuary I noticed a comment on one of my colleagues Walls calling my friend an 'F***ing 'tard'. A lot of our other colleagues had commented agreeing with this and 'liking' t

he comment. My friend has obvious mild learning difficultiesbut has been given a chance with this job although he does struggle sometimes. Well my friend wrote a letter of complaint and the lad that made the comment apologised to him but I have been on his profile since and the comment is still there. I've spoken to the lad

a few weeks ago and asked him to remove it which he said he would and also spoke to the manager again who said he would also ask for it to be removed. Well I have been on there today and it is still there! What can my friend do about this? His name isn't mentioned but it's blatantly obvious who it is aimed at and we have new members of staff starting constantly who this lad is adding to his Facebook. It's making my friend look and feel a fool and people aren't taking him seriously. Our boss has done nothing, not even a warning to this lad and I feel it's very unfair. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

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Hello there, welcome to the forum. When I saw your thread title, I'm afraid I thought 'Oh dear, not another one', but this is an interesting angle on the FB thing. I'm wondering if your company has a policy on bullying, harassment, discrimination etc. This is only thinking aloud and I'm sure the others will comment on how this matter should be approached.

 

I hope we can help.

 

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A complaint needs to be made to the company HR department, as your boss isn't dealing with the issue properly.

I've just realised something, Mark Zuckerberg is the Second Coming. Facebook is going to destroy human civilisation.

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Well we have a union and in the complaint letter my friend said how upset it had made him and how he would go to the union about it and my boss said he didn't like being threatened with the union and that my mate should have just stuck to the facts and not included his feelings. The only other person we could speak to is the Area manager but this could make it awkward for my friend as everyone is very pally pally and they don't like any complaints being made. My friend would probably rather brush it under the carpet and hasn't pushed the matter further but people are laughing behind his back and making fun of him.

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This doesn't sound right. Is it a big company, it sounds like it? Someone will be along with more advice for you.

 

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Yep it's a very big retail chain but a small store with about 14 members of staff. We have two managers and two team leaders. My manager is very laid back and doesn't really seem to care much about the people in the store and fobs people off with 'leave it with me, il deal with it, don't take it outside the store etc etc'

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Refer it to the union, that's what they're there for.

If the manager doesn't like it, he'll land himself in serious trouble if he tries taking any action against you/your friend.

It was perfectly reasonable of your friend to state how this made him feel.

If he has a learning disability, he's probably covered by the Disability Discrimination Act. For a colleague to publicly call him a "FR" is unlawful harassment, and the employer has a duty to address this matter properly

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Thanks for your advice. Just needed to make sure it wouldn't come back on my friend but thinking about it this is the only thing we can do. My friend doesnt have a recognised learning difficulty but he struggles with communication and the doctor has suggested he could have mild aspergers but can't explore it any further as he

Is over 18. Everyone recognises he has issues though and the older staff members are wonderful with him and very patient. It's just the younger ones.

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Hello again cinammon. Please don't go for the jugular just yet, wait for a few more comments first. But I think Elpulpo might have the right approach for you in going to head office and HR.

 

Do you have a screenprint of the Facebook page? If you don't, my technical adviser tells me you need to do something like 'Ctrl + the Prt Sc button', which I have just found on my keyboard for the 1st time. Depending on your PC, it could be the Function button.

 

Then you can copy and paste or save it to another document or an email. If you haven't shown someone this already, and I apologise if you've already mentioned this, I think having this sort of proof could be useful to you.

 

My best, HB


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Oh yes we have print outs of the status, comments and the people who 'liked' it. I will definitely hold back for a bit. Really don't want to make life difficult for my friend but something has to be done.

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Yes, do wait for further guidance.

 

But there are various reasons why they should take this seriously and not penalise your friend for raising the problem.

 

My best, HB


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This is a flippant comment, please don't follow my advice-

Why not post on FB that the manager is a 'FR' and see what happens?

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Hmm. Frivolity over? This is serious and it's nice to see someone on Facebook who deserves sacking. Go to the union - this is disability discrimation and having done the " informal route" ir really is time for the heavy guns. It may be a store of 14 people, but I bet the company take it more seriously. Just make sure that everything is in writing - download copies of the pages, and put everything in writing.

 

And by the way - the doctor is being lazy. Being over 18 does not ever mean they can't make a diagnosis.


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Hi i have pm'd you, let me know so i can give you the correct advice.

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Hi i have pm'd you, let me know so i can give you the correct advice.

 

Ignore any PM sent. CAG is firmly against sending advice by PM without valid reason to do so, such as preventing indentifiable infomation being made public. So barney, any advice should be posted in this thread not by PM, and as your certain your advice is the correct advice, implying the others here, including SarEL an Employment BARRISTOR, is wrong. Then i am highly sceptical of your advice being the correct advice, since you sent it by PM rather then postin g on the thread so others can view it and debate it.

 

That said i am in agreement with SarEL and others here as this is a very serious matter, another angle to having this matter dealt with would be defamation (i.e libel) which is a criminal offence. Which would allow your friend to take the individaul that made the post to court.


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Agreed on all points.

 

This is potentially very serious, and never mind the individual store, the company will take this as an extremely serious matter. There is a growing list of cases where Facebook and other public Forums have been responsible for dismissals, and your colleague needs to make a big noise about this - the manager concerned is also likely to be culpable personally for not treating this with the gravity it deserves. Equally anybody who finds this distasteful should be complaining and not just the victim - so that includes you!

 

And barney2 - please do not suggest that users PM you for advice or to give information away from public view. There is nothing which the OP can say in private which cannot also be said on an open forum. I am sure that your intentions are honourable, but there are very good reasons why forum rules exist, and if there is a genuine reason why a point needs to be made via PM then this should be at the OP's instigation, nobody else's, and then only to clarify a point, not to receive detailed advice on a subject.


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Barney was asking over PM if it was a specific store and I responded before reading your posts not realising this isn't allowed. I just said it wasn't the store he was suggesting but didn't say which one it was. Not really happy to divulge that information as the outcome should be the same regardless of what company it is I'm assuming. My friend has reprinted the copies of the screenshots and a copy of the letter he originally wrote to our manager outlining the facts and how it made him feel. So would the next best

step be to contact the union? He is planning on calling them this morning to arrange a meeting with a rep. He wants to try and speak to our manager once more before doing this but we have gone to him three times so far and each time told 'leave it with me, I will deal with it' yet it is still on Facebook. Is it worth going to him a fourth time? Apparently after speaking with my friend last night he said the reason this lad gave as to not removing the comment is that he only has access to FB from his mobile phone and can't delete any comment made. If this was me and I'd had a proper warning about what could potentially happen making comments like that I'd be straight to a friends or the library to remove it. This shows in my eyes he didn't have a sufficient warning although when he apologised to my friend he did say he was aware that he could have been sacked. When I approached just after he had done it

him he promised he would find a way to remove the comment and he hadn't meant it, he was just angry as my friend had taken half an hour extra to lock up the store. This is an ongoing issue the staff have with my friend but this should be taken up with management not on Facebook! I know people have complained and again my manager has offered no training or support with time management. My blood is really starting to boil over this. Especially when the manager said he should only have included the facts. Also I'm assuming a letter of complaint is as good as writing a proper grievance form? We are supposed to use these but 'conveniently' never have any in store even though we are meant to.

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Have just come into work and my friend has left a note to the manager asking him to speak to the lad in question again. He never mentioned last night he has done this. Is it worth waiting to see if he does or just go straight to the union? He said he will speak to him later on.

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Fwiw, I'd be inclined to see if the manager comes back and says anything later. Equally, you probably don't want to let this drift and I personally wouldn't feel like being very patient. Saying that, I'm not sure who is going to speak to whom later on, now I read your post #18 again.

 

Don't hand over your written evidence unless you can get hold of other copies.

 

And please let us know how it goes.

 

My best, HB


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Sorry I meant my manager is going to speak to the lad that made the comment. One of our colleagues has told our manager that my friend is thinking of taking legal action if nothing has been done about the comment. Not sure what my manager said to him but my friend looked very unhappy when I saw him. Will find out more later but couldn't speak to him at the time as our boss was there.

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Hello again. It doesn't sound as if they're dealing with this very well. I'd like to know what the others think, but I'd have said it's gone beyond handling it verbally. The comment about legal action is unfortunate, because it's probably not the way to go. I hope you're being careful about what you say to people at the moment.

 

Please come back to us later and let us know how the day's gone. Then we can help you decide the way forward.

 

My best, HB


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The statement about legal action was from a third party so its deniable, as it wasn't said by the OP's friend. So it's nothing more than in store gossip and rumours basically, though your friend has every right to take such action, but at this stage there is no need to even consider legal action, as this can be sorted out formally and internally at the company still. Only when you exhaust all options such as formal grievance procedures, is it time to start considering outside action such as tribunal or legal.

 

So if your friend hasn't all ready said he is considering legal action, then when he is asked he should simply state he is not yet considering it, as he hopes for the issue to be resolved amicably, but failing that, then it will be one option he would consider but only if it can not be resolved amicably in house.

 

To be honest, your other collegue had no right to get involved our make assummative statements to the manager. As doing so, despite whether their intentions were to help or not, only serves to create unnecessary friction between your friend and the manager. Which given your friends mood today am guessing the manager was not happy to hear about the possability of legal action and may have said some strong words, though i would be interested in knowing exactly what those words were.


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Well I spoke to the colleague who I thought had told the manager and she swears she hasn't said anything which I'm inclined to believe as it was the the three of us who wanted to sort this out anyway. I think my friend has mentioned legal action himself to the manager and the manager has acted like he already knew to throw my friend off guard. All so confusing! I need to have a proper discussion with my mate later. He does have a habit of changing parts of his story and leaving bits out of conversations. I very briefly caught him on the way into the store earlier where he told me that our boss already had heard through the grapevine about legal action but I'm not sure how as the only people that are aware of the situation is me and the other colleague. Will post later when I find out more. Hopefully the comment will be gone later tonight if my manager keeps to his word but I'm not holding my breath lol.

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Right things are a bit clearer now. Apparently the boss approached my friend and said he heard we were taking it to the union. This can only have come from our colleague who swore she hadnt said anything. We are the only people that know. Well the boss has told my friend he can go union if he likes but he has had three weeks to check up if the comment had gone and he shouldn't have left it so late. He is also angry that I have got involved in the situation and said my friend should have kept work and social life separate. I know I will be approached tomorrow morning for my involvement. It happened once before when I approached him about a 17 year old being made to work 12 hour shifts. He said she should have come to him herself and shouted at me telling me to zip it until I became very upset. How do I approach it if he starts having a go at me again? I know it's not my personal argument but I feel very strongly about any of my work mates being called words like that.

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Hello again. Could you tell us if the FB entry has been removed now please?

 

This manager sounds like a control freak and not a very nice person to me.

 

My best, HB


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