DVLA : Is it time for a Sorn ?

[London000]

Good morning.

I have a really quick question...

If the road tax is expriring how long do you have after the expiration until you have to tax it again? Is it a week??? Or is it necesary to do it strght away...

Could I keep it on private land for let's say a week and then tax it from the day expired???

 

Many thanks,

DD

[vengeancedemon]

I would say, strictly legally, no, but in the real world, a week ( but no more ) would probally be ok, so long as you do not use the vehicle on the road and the retax is from the "expiry" date. Even the hounds of hell from DVLA wouldnt work that quickly.

 

Technically, there is officially no leeway on date of expiry to date of retax/declaration of SORN

[crem]

There is no official leaway from your expiry of the old disk until you display your new one. Whilst you may "get away with it" for a few days, just bear in mind that if you get caught thy can bring a mountain of fines down on you.

 

Fine 1 - Failure to display

Fine 2 - Using a untaxed vehicle on the public road

Fine 3 - Vehicle seized, with associated costs/fines of surity (until taxed) plus towing/storage fees.

 

The only official exception is where you have taxed it online within the last few days of the month. In these circumstances you are allowed to carry on using the vehicle for the first 5 days to allow for postage of your new disk.

Edited February 27, 2011 by crem

[Big Bill]

The legislation actually allows 28 days between expiry and a SORN application look it up your self. The DVLA and their cohotrs may tell you different.

 

The DVLA cannot fine you they apply a penalty charge that can only be recovered through the courts.

 

It is not a "fine" only the courts can Fine you.

[Raykay]

The requirement is that a mechanically propelled vehicle registered under the Vehicles Excise & Registration Act 1994 is licensed. - s.1 of the Act.

There is no grace period for that, there is a 5 day 'grace' period for displaying the licence if a new one is applied for by phone or on-line before the old licence or SORN declaration expires.

 

If the vehicle is not used or kept on a public road a declaration under s.22 (1D) of the same act (SORN) may be made instead of a licence, there is no 'grace' period or 28 days allowance for a SORN declaration. A new licence must be taken out, or SORN declaration made on or before the expiry of the old licence or SORN declaration.

[Big Bill]

These regulations are made under powers in section 7A of the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994, as amended by the Finance Act 2002. The amendments cover continuous registration and the power to enforce directly from the record, and create a new criminal offence of being the registered keeper of an unlicensed vehicle. They give specific powers to the Secretary of State to levy an automatic supplement on those keepers who fail to license their vehicles on time.

 

The regulations set the level of the new penalty for those who are served with notices following their failure to license their vehicles on time, or to make a statutory off-road notification if they intend to take a vehicle off the road. The proposed penalty is £80, reduced to £40 if paid within 28 days of the notice being served. That penalty will apply if a keeper fails to license a vehicle or to make a statutory off-road notification within a month of the expiry of the previous licence or statutory off-road notification.

 

The regulations also prescribe that the registered keeper of the vehicle shall be liable to pay the penalty.

 

This is taken directly from the explanatory notes to parliament.

Edited April 8, 2011 by Big Bill
added last para

[Raykay]

The Late Licensing Penalty - s.7A Vehicles Excise & Registration Act 1994 - is £80, reduced to £40 if paid within 28 days of the Late Licence Penalty notice being served.

 

The offence of being the registered keeper of an un-licensed vehicle - s.31A, Vehicles Excise & Registration Act 1994 - is committed if a new licence is not obtained, or SORN declaration made, on or before expiry of the old one - there is no time allowance.

[Big Bill]

Somebody is telling lies and I wonder who?

[Raykay]

So do I, the explanatory note is a rough explanation, the detail is in The Vehicles Excise & Registration Act 1994.

[apsert]

Well Bill im sure an Affidavit of truth sworn in front of an officer for the courts along with a Dunn & Bradstreet print off showing a "registered" company trading for PROFIT along with a copy of formal notice to DVLA stating you "conditionally£ accept the fee asked of you providing DVLA swears under penalty of perjury on their full commercial liability that THEY ARE NOT a company trading for profit. Will you then pay them what they ask. Dont expect them to accept this for they wont. Bottom line.... You now have lawful excuse as stated in the rd traffic act. Laqful excuse because the party requesting of you refuses to sacrifice the "MEASURE OF THEIR CREDIBILITY" !!!

Legal Maxim: He who does not sacrifice the measure of the credibility has no claim cannot claim injury and have no claim of Athority.

So where does that leave us.....

NO ONE RULE IF NO ONE OBEYS8-)

[London000]

Hi folks,

 

It has been sorted somehow a while ago.

I must thank you for all the answers received although there is too much info to take in....

Why can't we have a pure and simple laws to little things like that....

I am still finding myself puzzled by the fact that exactly how many days after the roadtax expired anyone is entitled to until the next one is displayed...

What I am trying to say is that when you have paid for the new roadtax you could backdate it from the time when the expired one ended...so in all you will still be ok?!

 

DD:roll:

[Raykay]

In theory, a new licence must be taken out on or before expiry of the old one. There is a 5 days grace for displaying the new one if it is ordered by phone or on line - as long as it was ordered before expiry of the old one.

 

In practice, if you are a few days late and the new one runs from the expiry of the old one, I don't think DVLA worry too much, but failure to display could cause problems, depending on the circumstances.