aledged benefit fraud advice

[monty2000]

hi guys just after a bit of advice if possible please?

 

Me & my partner have been living together now as a couple since march 2010.

 

We went together partly because a fraud investigation case & we were thinking of getting back together anyway.

Me & my partner had a child together in 2006 after being together for a year or so. But things didnt work out during the pregnancy of my son & we split up.

 

But in July - August 2009 we started seeing each other again and i visited her property quite often to help with my child as he has behavioural problems & we were working on our relationship. She had also since then had a child with someone else which didnt work out & they had splt up.

 

My partner (which wasnt at the time) in march 2010 received a letter from the fraud investigation team to attend an interview for having a partner living with her.

 

Before we go any futher i would like to say that i used my partners bank account for 9 months or so before the alledged offence as i cannot obtain one myself due to bad credit. (which i can prove). She done this as a favour to help me out.

 

As we were together but not living together. This was one of the things the benefit investigator thrived on (using the bank account).

 

My partner basicaly told them what i just told you. I had used the bank account as i did not have one myself & i had been visiting the property to help with my son & work on our relatonship. but i did not live there.

 

I later spoke to the benifit fraud investigator myself who wanted to know where i had been living since the birth of my child. which i willingly supplied. the benefit fraud investigator then visited one of the address's i gave (my sister) & stated to her "well hes told me hes been living here" which i had not! I told her had been staying between several address's as i was no fixed abode.

i had an argument on the phone with the investigator who denied the allegation. I put in acomplaint but nothing ever came of it.

Then in Jan 2011 Then my partner received a letter for over payment of income support from july 2009 - March 2010.

Nobody can explain where the dates came from just that they are based on bank statements.

 

I listned to the interview tape tonight as i am appealing the over payment for my partner as i know she was entitled to income support as i put no money into the household & she was a single parent i just helped out when i could with my son.

 

my concern here is they are trying for a low easy over payment. my partner has not received any legal proceedings.

 

The investigator could only provide two instances of me actualy being at the property. which were stated on the tape. only one of which is not quite true. she stated the car was parked on the drive with the gates closed at 5.30am. there are no gates on the drive. so leads me to think once again she is lying.

the other instance was at 12.30pm in the night which is quite possible. my partner also did state that i did stay once or twice a week.

 

Possibl'y irelavent but she also stated that the car was registered to my mothers address. it aint it was registered to my sisters my care of address.

 

I know that we had done nothng wrong. but now its been passed onto over payment department i feel powerless. any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Edited February 11, 2011 by monty2000

[honeybee13]

Hello Monty. I think you may have copied and pasted your post from another application. Sometimes when you do this, all the paragraphs disappear.

 

It would help people trying to help you if you could edit your post to put the paragraphs back in. That way you should get more replies.

 

My best, HB

[monty2000]

hmm i havent copied & pasted anything why cant you see it all

[monty2000]

hi guys just after a bit f advice if possible please?

 

Me & my partner have been living together now as a couple since march 2010.

 

We went together partly because a fraud investigation case & we were thinking of getting back together anyway.

Me & my partner had a child together in 2006 after being together for a year or so. But things didnt work out during the pregnancy of my son & we split up.

 

But in July - August 2009 we started seeing each other again and i visited her property quite often to help with my child as he has behavioural problems & we were working on our relationship. She had also since then had a child with someone else which didnt work out & they had splt up.

 

My partner (which wasnt at the time) in march 2010 received a letter from the fraud investigation team to attend an interview for having a partner living with her.

 

Before we go any futher i would like to say that i used my partners bank account for 9 months or so before the alledged offence as i cannot obtain one myself due to bad credit. (which i can prove). She done this as a favour to help me out.

 

As we were together but not living together. This was one of the things the benefit investigator thrived on (using the bank account).

 

My partner basicaly told them what i just told you. I had used the bank account as i did not have one myself & i had been visiting the property to help with my son & work on our relatonship. but i did not live there.

 

I later spoke to the benifit fraud investigator myself who wanted to know where i had been living since the birth of my child. which i willingly supplied. the benefit fraud investigator then visited one of the address's i gave (my sister) & stated to her "well hes told me hes been living here" which i had not! I told her had been staying between several address's as i was no fixed abode.

i had an argument on the phone with the investigator who denied the allegation. I put in acomplaint but nothing ever came of it.

Then in Jan 2011 Then my partner received a letter for over payment of income support from july 2009 - March 2010.

Nobody can explain where the dates came from just that they are based on bank statements.

 

I listned to the interview tape tonight as i am appealing the over payment for my partner as i know she was entitled to income support as i put no money into the household & she was a single parent i just helped out when i could with my son.

 

my concern here is they are trying for a low easy over payment. my partner has not received any legal proceedings.

 

The investigator could

only provide two instances

of me actualy being at the property. which were stated on the tape. only one of which is not quite true. she stated the car was parked on the drive with the gates closed at 5.30am. there are no gates on the drive. so leads me to think once again she is lying.

the other instance was at 12.30pm in the night which is quite possible. my partner also did state that i did stay once or twice a week.

 

Possibl'y irelavent but she also stated that the car was registered to my mothers address. it aint it was registered to my sisters my care of address.

 

I know that we had done nothng wrong. but now its been passed onto over payment department i feel powerless. any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Edited February 11, 2011 by monty2000

[honeybee13]

I can see it all, but it's one great mass of text. If you want to make it easier for people here to read, and it's up to you, you could edit what you wrote to separate the paragraphs and put some spaces in it.

 

You don't need to, but you may get more help if people find it easier to read.

 

My best, HB

[cerberusalert]

There's nothing wrong with the text.

[monty2000]

bump

[monty2000]

can anyone provide any advice??

[jabba jones]

As the decision has now been made all your partner (with your help) can do is to make an appeal. You've got a copy of the IUC so you know what evidence has been used to make the decision. You've got to provide explanations against as many of those as possible with the bank account being the main one. You only have one month to make the appeal from the date the decision is issued.

[monty2000]

just to update this thread they dropped the allegation after we appealed it.

even though an officer called around and said to my partner she had been found guilty and could admit guilt to him instead of going to court.

She told him, okay we will see you in court.

Couple of days later a letter came stating there was insufficient evidence to support the offence and no further action would be taken.

I confronted the local benefit fraud team via phone who said "oh sorry we must have made a mistake we shouldn't have called"

what an absolute joke. the benefit fraud team are bullies who will try anything.

moral of the story if u aint done nothing wrong take no rubbish from these jokers and fight your case

[jadeybags]

Nice one. Nasty under hand tactics!