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Hi All,

 

My account was closed by A&L after they refunded charges. I had an outstanding balance on an overdraft with them. I complained to the FOS and they awarded me £200. A&L kept this against the outstanding balance. Because they started to apply pressure for repayment of the overdraft via their collection arm, I requested (by way of a cca request) a true copy of the agreement. All they have supplied is the account agreement form which shows an overdraft limit of zero with only one other mention, within the declaration, on unsecured lending not exceeding 10k.

My understanding is that an overdraft is a consumer credit agreement for running account credit and falls into various sections of the act. Can anyone offer advice on this scenario please?

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Hi zander.

 

Unfortunately, there is no requirement in the CCA for an overdraft to be signed, and as long as they informed you of things like interest rates, repayment methods, credit limits, etc., before making the agreement it is enforceable. And even if you didn't sign the paperwork this doesn't affect the fact that there is a contract and it is enforceable.

 

They are within the terms of the OFT waiver if they gave you the proper information before you agreed to the overdraft, and so... it looks like all you can do is reclaim any penalty charges on this account to make the overall debt smaller. :)

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Same here. I get paranoid and found it best to calm down by ignoring the ammount of canvassers/unknowns we get, including the jehovas witnesses. We have a church of theres near by and we are regular fodder to them It feels. Have to give them credit for persistance.:)

 

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Have to give them credit for persistance.:)

 

I hope you get them to sign a valid CCA which you can later enforce in court:D

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I had an authorised overdraft with Alliance & Leicester which was taken over by Santander.

 

A&L closed the account as retaliation for my succesful claim on charges.

 

The overdraft has been and still is being reported as a defaulted account with the credit reference agencies.

 

I have not acknowledged the alleged debt for over five years and wrote to advise the debt is statute barred ( I live in Scotland).

 

They responded by telling me it's six years , not five.....

 

. They also state that they have sent transaction summary statement and notice of sums in arrears at regular intervals under provisions of CCA 2008 which is not the case.

 

Even if they had, I've never acknowledged anything to them in five years.

 

Any advice on how to respond would be greatly appreciated.

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They are wrong. If you live in Scotland then the SB timing is 5 years from the first missed payment.

 

I will alert one of the Site team from across the border for you to confirm. :)

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whats the default date on the cra file from the summary?

 

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Thanks. Already sent this to them with an explanation upon negative prescription under the statute of limitaions act Scotland. It would appear that they failed to digest the content properly, or didn't want to?

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Makes no odds what they've sent you, if not acknowledged by you in a five year period, the 'debt' no longer exists.

They maybe think Scotland's a wee part of England :)

 
 

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if its july the it will vanish soon too then

 

that'll upset satans bank

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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if its july the it will vanish soon too then

 

that'll upset satans bank

 

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Yes. They are reporting to the agencies until August 2013 so only a matter of months before it falls off. I'd like to make sure, through staute of limitations, they won't still chase for the alleged debt. I need to forcefully make them aware in my reply.

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Just received a letter from their complaints team after many hours of chasing them to remove the default as statute barred. The reply is somewhat confusing as they say that a default remains on file for six years regardless of whether or not a debt is statute barred? This, despite statute of limitations stating that the debt never existed? Any advice?

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Just received a letter from their complaints team after many hours of chasing them to remove the default as statute barred. The reply is somewhat confusing as they say that a default remains on file for six years regardless of whether or not a debt is statute barred? This, despite statute of limitations stating that the debt never existed? Any advice?

 

 

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However, I think what they are saying is that from the original default date - updating will take place for 6 years. But on the 6th anniversary of the default first being added then it will fall off.

 

So when did the original creditor first add the default marker to your credit files. If the debt is statute barred, then I imagine it doesn't have long to go before that is history :)

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