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    • I am sorry, but without seeing the contract, and knowing what is on it or what effect it has, it is impossible to say.     
    • A16 BYN is the plates that the car was advertised with, and obviously the plate which I checked the mot history with, I also thought the same that the website maybe hadn't been updated with the most recent mot that the dealer had got done, I asked for the original plate number whilst doing the logging in to my bank account, to pay both the dealer and the shiply transporter. Bearing in mind I had told the dealer around 6pm that I would get the deposit sorted out when I put my son to bed, that gave him every opportunity to send me any pre contract details etc. Just over an hour later (son still wasn't in bed) asked for the address of where the vehicle was to be picked up from as I couldn't accept the quote for the transporter without that information. Less than an hour after that he whatsapped me asking if I still want to buy the car because he's getting enquiries from other interested parties and is telling them that he's sold the car to me (no deposit  paid as yet). I then replied a few min later having finally got my son to sleep.    Anyway between me sorting out the details and where to pick the car up from, log into my banking to pay deposits etc he'd  messaged me the original plate no... which I didn't see until after I'd done all the aformentioned.    I decided to check the history on that plate as like yourself I had been confused about the mileage, low and behold there was the most recent mot containing 5 advisories which were never mentioned to me. Another thing I can't really understand is the expiry date of the mot before that either and I did query all of this with the dealer, only to be told that cars in Scotland are renowned for corrosion issues...and that if I had checked the mot history I would have seen them, I explained I had checked the history on the plate in the advert as I had no knowledge of what the original plate numbers were and he told me that the most recent mot was under the plate in the advert. Most certainly the mot certificate he then sent me on whatsapp had the advertised plate on the certificate,  however, it wasn't showing up on the dvla page.    By this stage I was irate with him for several reasons, for not notifying me of the advisories and telling me that he had checked the dvla and the most recent mot was showing up on the advertised plates, I then screenshot the page with the expiry and this car is not mot'd information, and 2 for telling me that cars in Scotland are renowned for corrosion issues!    Had he simply said, the car is 18 years old you're going to expect to have some corrosion at some point, I'd have been a bit more tolerant at that stage. Apon checking the history on the original plates, it transpired it passed the last MOT previous to the most recent one on the same day the advertised plates ran out, I still haven't quite fathomed out what is going on regards to this. However the previous mot showed no corrosion issues and as it hadn't failed on that basis, I would get the panel beater sprayer mentioned in an earlier post to have a look at it, and sort the issues out re that, also the main reason I had the car delivered to my dad's address as that's also the area where the panel beaters business is.  
    • I had a similar thought, TJ. The Guardian has done an explainer of the rules as of yesterday.   Someone said that if the government, had retained public trust, they might not have needed stringent measures like this.   https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/28/england-new-coronavirus-restrictions-explained
    • Retailers and Hermes.   I have a parcel that’s saying delivered but not arrived. This dates back two weeks. The retailer won’t contact Hermes but Hermes are saying I need to let the retailer know my package hasn’t arrived - as the contract is between them and Hermes, not me. I am going around in circles. Retailer just says here is the tracking and won’t acknowledge the parcel hasn’t arrived! 🤬   Paid for by credit card. £89. Any advice, please help
    • Retailers and Hermes. I have a parcel that’s saying delivered but not arrived. This dates back two weeks. The retailer won’t contact Hermes but Hermes are saying I need to let the retailer know my package hasn’t arrived - as the contract is between them and Hermes, not me. I am going around in circles. Retailer just says here is the tracking and won’t acknowledge the parcel hasn’t arrived! 🤬 Paid for by credit card. Any advice, please help
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    • I’m in desperate need of help
       
      I bought some clothes online in may through Evans and paid through PayPal
      returned them all seven days later
       
      I waited the 14days for my refund and no refund came
      I put in a dispute through PayPal but I didn’t get any emails to escalate the case - PayPal closed it. 
      evans said they couldn’t refund the money because PayPal have cancelled the refund because of the open dispute
       
      I contacted PayPal
      they said the dispute had been closed but Evans at no point had attempted a refund.
      fast forward to today
       
      I’ve got copies of numerous messages sent to and from twitter messages as it’s the only way I can contact them
      I’ve also contacted their customer service too
      all I get is PayPal have cancelled refund because dispute is still open.
       
      I have proved that the dispute is closed
      I have got an email saying that if Evans sent the refund they would accept it
      but up until the date I got the email they have not once attempted a refund .
       
       I have sent them a letter before court email
      I have even offered to have the full refund as a gift card just to get this sorted !
       
      I’m literally at the end of my tether and don’t know where to turn next !
       
      i suffer with mental health issues and this is affecting my health and I’d saved the money for a year to buy these clothes as I’m on a low income .

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Yesterday I received a £20 penalty fare at Waterloo. Later that day I discovered that the ticket inspectors are supposed to offer you the chance to pay the penalty fare upfront- this one didn't, he insisted upon me giving my details of address so that SWT could bill me the fare which is a real inconvenience as I'm at University and don't live at home much these days. When I asked him if I could pay it upfront he said that I couldn't because he'd already started filling out the form- but this is not in line with SWT policy on penalty fares. I've heard that the penalty fare can be paid online but I'm still irritated that SWT now have me on record and can use this case against me in the future. Have I been mistreated here? Is there such a thing as appealing against the unfair retention of my personal information? Would I be likely to succeed in such an appeal? Thanks.

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Hi AJ

 

Welcome to CAG

 

The guys will advise you as soon as they are available.

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Whether you pay 'up front' or later, he is still entitled to request your details. I am surprised that he didn't accept your full payment, if it was 'on offer'. However, the penalty fare schemes do not allow 'collectors' to demand full payment on the spot. (They may ask, they may not 'demand') There are also many circumstances where they are required to consider your welfare over 'collection'.

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They are entitled to keep your details for a 'reasonable time'. The word 'reasonable' is one of those wonderfully imprecise words. I suspect that the data may be kept for about 7 years, unless you do 're-offend', in which case, it could be kept for a similar length of time from the date of the fresh offence. However, they need to have a reason to keep it.

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Yesterday I received a £20 penalty fare at Waterloo. Later that day I discovered that the ticket inspectors are supposed to offer you the chance to pay the penalty fare upfront- this one didn't, he insisted upon me giving my details of address so that SWT could bill me the fare which is a real inconvenience as I'm at University and don't live at home much these days. When I asked him if I could pay it upfront he said that I couldn't because he'd already started filling out the form- but this is not in line with SWT policy on penalty fares. I've heard that the penalty fare can be paid online but I'm still irritated that SWT now have me on record and can use this case against me in the future. Have I been mistreated here? Is there such a thing as appealing against the unfair retention of my personal information? Would I be likely to succeed in such an appeal? Thanks.
As Wriggler stated, the staff are entitled to request your details regardless, as you didn't have a valid rail ticket. Your post worries me a little, as I fear you are of the impression you were given a Penalty Fare, where in fact, you were reported for an alleged offence. Were you given the necessary Penalty Fare paperwork? Some Revenue folk aren't as clear as maybe they should be when reporting somebody. The person being reported should be told, in no uncertain terms "I'm reporting you, as I believe offences might have been committed" and also that "This is not a Penalty Fare matter".

 

I strongly agree with them holding details, as it helps to combat fare evasion. Even if you'd have paid up-front, the staff are entitled to, and really should but often don't, take your details, for the sole reason I meantioned about combatting fare evasion.

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I think Stigy may possibly have hit the nail here.

 

You say you were 'given a £20 penalty fare'

 

Did you sign a numbered form, which was then handed to you?

 

The form will say on it when the appeal must be made, or penalty must be paid by. (If a penalty fare notice was issued yesterday you would have until 30th of January.)

 

If you were not given the form it is likely that you have been reported.

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  • 10 months later...

funny how the ones who have voted against the poll are all fare evaders.......

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Hi guys. I keep finding this thread highlighted in bold and saying there's a new reply, but when I click on it, there's an old message, today it's RPI from 16/11.

 

Is it because there's a poll on the thread?

 

My best, HB

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