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    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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Cheers CB - realise they are in-house. Just rec'd another letter from BLS. Will digest tonight and post up contents for advice.

 

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OMG.. dont eat it.. you will get indigestion or something equally unpleasant :lol:

 

I issued a claim against LTSB in respect of non compliance of a SAR. BLS had been involved somewhere along the line and the Judge was not impressed at all with their "record" keeping !!

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:lol:CB - too late - normally good stuff goes in and nowt good comes out, in this case was hoping to reverse the process. Letter looks like threat'o'gram.

 

Letter starts off with "wrote to you, can only assume due to lack of contact, that you have no intention of paying this debt on a voluntaty basis" - Muppetts - if they could be *asked to check, paid 2 months at a branch with no credit card statement, just account details, as per arrangement made last year.

 

Then "if you do not contact us be phone in 14 days, you WILL force us to commence legal action against you" - note not a may but a will - this this significant??? - I tend to think not but advice welcome.

 

Mentions additional costs of minimum of £155 - scare tactics??

 

Then "if a CCJ is obtained and you fall in arrears (my bold) we are likely to ask the court to enforce the judgment by A) Warrant of Execution - bailiffs take goods, B) An Attachment of Earnings, C) A charging order - no worries son-in-law and daughter rent.

 

She was quiet upset at A and B but assured her a long way from court and latter actions only apply if fall in arrears. Told her, given circumstances a judge would not order repayment more than current, probably less as their income has declined.

 

Hope this was sensible advice - just looked at a link to page about new having to adhere to existing repayment plans, backed by COBS/BCOBS and esstopel, given by CB i think.

 

Inclined just to write and point out - I am paying, want to pay, will pay - but less than current due to change in circumstances and asking how I can pay with the cash I have in my hand.

 

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Cheers Ford an CB - will take note of poor record keeping. So far not communicated with them - just LTSB - letter of complaint about them requesting I borrow to pay off this debt still outstanding. Also my complaint to SCM from last year was not addressed, copy of letter sent to LTSB as they requested this as I complined about this in my original complaint. Keep the pressure on I say!!

 

In my letter to BLS, will not only tell them what I will pay and ask how, but will also write a nice letter of complaint. Then if no response will hold it back should it go to court. Thanksfor the info on your court case CB.

 

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Inclined just to write and point out - I am paying, want to pay, will pay - but less than current due to change in circumstances and asking how I can pay with the cash I have in my hand.

 

IMO, and if it were me I wouldn't write to them at all, they have not read your last letters, besides what you have received is nothing more than the bog standard childish letters they foolishly spit out in the hope of getting some fan mail!

 

You keep sending them a response, they in turn will send you pointless pieces of paper spouting all sorts of nonsense and fairy tale stories because it keeps them amused, I would just let them get on with whatever it is they do to amuse themselves, don't bite, pay what you can and ignore their childish comments, keep a diary of events with a view to taking them to the cleaners in the future, and obviously awarding them with some more bad press.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Cheers Ford an CB - will take note of poor record keeping. So far not communicated with them - just LTSB - letter of complaint about them requesting I borrow to pay off this debt still outstanding. Also my complaint to SCM from last year was not addressed, copy of letter sent to LTSB as they requested this as I complined about this in my original complaint. Keep the pressure on I say!!

 

In my letter to BLS, will not only tell them what I will pay and ask how, but will also write a nice letter of complaint. Then if no response will hold it back should it go to court. Thanksfor the info on your court case CB.

 

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thats just it. a complaint to bls will prob not go to 'bls'. and where it goes they prob won't tell bls. even if it is recorded on the system somewhere, bls prob won't see it or take any notice. all automated. bls doesn't 'exist' as such apart from a hard drive somewhere with a load of template letters on automation. the tel no on their letters goes to their collections centre in india! and they prob won't know what's going on!

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Sorry BB going to ignore your advice (which have never done) but will use your "thanks for requesting an I&E statement, I done my own and can now only afford £x per month" due to governments austerity measures (sorry Cam now calls it efficiency measures) aimed at keeping your bank (sorry our bank) in business. Will keep reducing it by a £1 till they agree,

 

 

Letter will be aimed at creating a paper trail if it goes to court. It will cover all letter rec'd from them ( I have ignored them to date til OC advised they have set them on me. Main points of formal complaint-

  • don't respond to unknown organisations demading money
  • will only communicate in writing so no phone calls.
  • they can advise LTSB to arrange a personal visit but will not answer to them (I have no doorstep to collect:-))
  • requesting payment by Credit Card is against OFT guidelines
  • they state that due to lack of contact that "I have no intention of paying this debt on a voluntary basis" does not fill me with confidence that they have adequate procedured to handle my account as I have continued to make the agrred payments
  • the threat of warrants a, attachment of earnings and charging orders is vexatious and designed to cause undue distress as not been to court and so not in arrears.
  • will ask for how they will facilitate my paying this debt to LTSB by wat of cash payments.
  • will copy letter to LTSB.

Trying to create a paper trail which might be useful after reading CB and Fords posts. BB be assured I will only pay what is afford.

 

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I think that is a good plan , Intend :)

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:) heard him say it yesterday. trying to avoid further talk of the 'double dip'. and blaming his coalition partners.

 

anyway, paper trail is a good idea. one dispute/complaint to bls should be enough to cover that. (note that 'bls' won't 'personally' reply to your letter, it's not in their template database, someone else will). bit of a rant there my last post re bls, from experience. :)

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Letter of complaint sent to BLS (purely as a paper trail), told them a copy on its way to LTSB, plus told them what I would be repaying (as per BB) which is about half of what it was - increases in fuel and food prices - and asking how I can pay it in cash - no DDs for intend.

 

Cheers for all advice, will keep you posted of developments.

 

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First post for awhile concerning loan - quick recap - NO CCA forthcoming from LTSB via Moorcroft - so Intend stops paying around start of 2011 after account in dispute letter sent. October 2011 Apex surface - quick letter to them nothing more heard.

 

Finally Feb this year CSL kindly write asking for settlement in 7 days, haha. Sent letter from library "Account in dispute and passed to another DCA". All quiet til today. New letter, short and sweet

"We are still waiting full details of your dispute and reason for non-payment"

"Will you kindly confirm whether you acknowledge opening the above account in your name, using our clients services and the balance according to your records"

"If you consider account subject to fraud, inform us so action can be taken"

 

Advice on how to proceed welcomed.

 

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Hi Intend, time for the ''I can not confirm or deny

any liability for the alleged debt as none of the information

I have requested to enable me to validate the alleged account

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Hi Brig - thanks for advise - looks great to me short and to the point - how about ending "will not enter into any further correspondence until such information provided"

 

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did you say in your dispute letter why it was in dispute? ie no cca? if so, then ignore. or just say refer to my previous correspondence, no acknowledgments. if they are only acting on behalf, they will prob bog off soon. another dca may then follow maybe iqor or wetclot or rob way etc. have you previously done a subject access request on this to loyds? if so, and they have provided full info, it could include a copy of computer 'instructions' to current dca involved including any poss discount and timeline, and whether legal action by dca would be authorised.

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Hi Brig - thanks for advise - looks great to me short and to the point - how about ending "will not enter into any further correspondence until such information provided"

 

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If the original creditor was made aware of any dispute, then they should have passed that information on.

 

If they company is simply collecting on behalf of the OC,then quite frankly it is none of hteir business !!

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CB - OC should be aware as CCA request was sent to Moorcrap who replied after a complaint letter that their client "was still checking their records" - that was in May 2011, sincewhen been on the meery-go-round.

 

As far as I am concerned LTSB are aware, am happy to see off DCAs for the time being with the account in dispute letter and wait for LTSB to deal directly with me.

 

Payments to them on the two debts have fallen from £70 per month (50 loan and 20 CC) to only £10 per month. Now realise the £70 was too much for daughter to pay and raise young family. Thanks to CAG they now have a stable, if poor quality of life but she and OH do not live in fear of the postman anymore.

 

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Letter sent to CSL as per Brigs post.

 

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Quick update on the CC - LTSB now passed to BLS (In house) - letter of complaint sent to BLS but reply from LTSB - upshot - have agreed to £10 per month (was £20) for the next year and are sending a paying in book - no DDs or SO - just like to pay cash. Hope this will now take a back seat and that LTSB wont sell it on.

 

Daughter just been round to pass over letter about the loan - will digest and post up later as fear this must surface again soon - much larger debt and not paid for over a year.

 

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A result of sorts then :)

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Thanks cB for looking in. Yes. Thanks to this site payments down from about £90 per month and being off-set from current account, about £2000 refunded and now in control. I tell them what will be paid.

 

Cheers all that have helped along the way.

 

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Update on loan - put in dispute over year ago when Moorcrap came on scene - CCA request - "Client looking for it" - account in dispute letter set, stopped paying, then came Apex - one letter and went away, then CSL - sent account in dispute letter, then another letter, replied refring to my previous letter.

 

Now another letter from CSL - "We can confirm we have requested a copy of CA which will be forwarded as soon as available" but the with "as above debt has not been previously in dispute, kindly confirm whether you acknowledge opening the above account in your own name, using our clients services and the balance according to your accounts" Also included a print out of last transactions on account.

 

Is this an attempt to get me to acknowledge the debt??

 

Should I just ignore??

 

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Yes, it appears to me that this is what they are after, an admission of liability.

 

IMHO, I would ignore.

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