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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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As some will know I am in the process of trying to reclaim unfair fees charged by a bailiff over Council Tax and Business Rates dating back three years.

 

I have today received a letter and need to be able to quote (for Wales if different in Wales) the exact place where the law states they are not allowed to charge for two visits on the same day, and if it is the case where they are not allowed to charge a card transaction fee.

 

Finally does anyone have the list of charges for Wales of what they are allowed to charge for recaliming business rates.

 

Many thanks,

 

Tingy

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Detailed Assessment Judgment of Throssell v Leeds City Council where the District Judge ruled as follows:

“Turning to the taxation it seems to me that notwithstanding the fact that there were three liability orders but one visit was made by one bailifflink3.gif and the maximum that the Council’s reasonable charges can be is the result of applying the formula contained in Schedule 5 paragraph 2 (1) (b) of the Regulations”

 

they cannot charge so many fees if only one visit is made

 

 

 

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1988/2050/contents/made

 

Fees, Charges and Expenses

 

10. No person shall be entitled to charge, or recover from, a tenant any fees, charges or expenses for levying a distress, or for doing any act or thing in relation thereto, other than those authorised by the tables in Appendix 1 to these Rules.

 

 

Wales or England the fees are the same

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1988/2050/contents/made

 

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HW,

 

Thank you so much. I hope you don't mind me questionning you on this, but are you absolutely totally 100% sure that it is the same in Wales as England as I was backfooted by the claim it is different this morning as I had nothing at hand to substantiate my belief that it was the same.

 

Sorry to question you, but as this looks like going to court I need to be 100% sure.

 

Thanks so much for you help,

 

Tingy

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HW,

 

Thank you so much. I hope you don't mind me questioning you on this, but are you absolutely totally 100% sure that it is the same in Wales as England as I was backfooted by the claim it is different this morning as I had nothing at hand to substantiate my belief that it was the same.

 

Sorry to question you, but as this looks like going to court I need to be 100% sure.

 

Thanks so much for you help,

 

Tingy

 

100% sure fees are the same regardless of where you live England or Wales

 

I live in wales and when i done my daughters unlawful fees i used the regulations quoted hers was for a domestic property but there is no difference in fees regardless of domestic or non domestic

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HW - thanks! I hope your halo is shining brightly - it should be! That is brilliant news as it means thanks to the wonderful Truecall I've got the bailiff company lying to me on the phone this morning. Woudl give you a big hug if you were here.

 

Thanks!

 

Tingy

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Ive got a truecall brilliant piece of kit

 

sent you a pm

 

Bailiffs claimed they didn't receive original £10.00. Have sent new SAR today and videoed the PO going into the envelope and the address on the envelope Post Mistress thought I'd gone mad! lol

 

The bailiff company is really horrible and the council are now I think very worried as I've sent them a screenprint of the trueCall recording and told them the bailiffs are recorded lying through their teeth on it. They tried very hard this morning to persuade me not to SAR them again - nearly succeeded as well, but didn't. I am going to ensure justice is done now as I honestly believe the council and bailiff company have been trying to stitch things up nicely between them to avoid a lawsuit. Sadly they will discover they've met a VERY determined opponent.

 

Watch this space as will doubtless be posting for advice at some stage.

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I'm confident it will either surface in time, or they have used it purely as a stalling tactic. Today happened to be the 40th day and today I received the letter. Coincidence? Who knows?

 

Also strange that I received a letter from the data person at the council admitting she'd made a mistake (thus digging herself into a bigger hole) and talking about the bailiffs. Now I wonder if they've been chatting behind the scenes?:roll::-D

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I'm confident it will either surface in time, or they have used it purely as a stalling tactic. Today happened to be the 40th day and today I received the letter. Coincidence? Who knows?

 

Also strange that I received a letter from the data person at the council admitting she'd made a mistake (thus digging herself into a bigger hole) and talking about the bailiffs. Now I wonder if they've been chatting behind the scenes?:roll::-D

 

Of course they have, your Council obviously only speaks Bailiff, time they learned the rules & regulations themselves, if it's for NNDR I'd be tempted to send the CEO a copy http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1058/contents/made

 

I don't doubt you have been in contact with the local Councillor concerned but have you thought of also involving the Leader of the Council and his opposite numbers?

 

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Of course they have, your Council obviously only speaks Bailiff, time they learned the rules & regulations themselves, if it's for NNDR I'd be tempted to send the CEO a copy http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1058/contents/made

 

I don't doubt you have been in contact with the local Councillor concerned but have you thought of also involving the Leader of the Council and his opposite numbers?

 

PT

 

TBH until today I'd just been following protocol, but they niggled me today. I don't like being lied to, I don't like people trying to dupe me and I don't like the behind the scenes off the record chats. I was in trouble at the time for both business rates and council tax, but everything has been paid (and overpaid) and I'm trying to get some back. I'm intentionally waiting another 40 days from today when I SAR'd the bailiffs again as i think they might just play nicely into my hands.

 

Leader of the council is a good way to go - I'm a great believer in going straight to the top and not messing with the lowlings, but again it will wait. Its waited 3 years so another 40 days won't make much difference. Revenge will however be sweet - trust me!

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Sorry folks, another question. I was reading around last night and read somewhere about there being a 6 month time limit on being able to reclaim these fees. Is that correct, in which case I'm wasting my time (and all of yours) or can I claim after 3 years? Any references to appropriate law would be brilliant as the council and bailiffs are slippery as eels!

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This from a Bailiff tingy!

England and Wales are the same in civil law only scotland are different!

Make sure you have all the correct info and dont go in there shouting the odds when you dont have the correct info, otherwise it will be dismissed in an instant.

The councils, courts and bailiff companies hear all sort (thousands a day)of stories, excuses, wrong laws being dictated to them so make sure all your info is 100% or you dont stand a chance. I wish I had a pound for every time somebody stood telling me what I can and cant do, I wouldn't need to still be doing this job.

Also when they start and are half clued up you can use these laws agaisnt them, its a green light to tie them in knots and relieve them of the money.

So do it right and good luck to you!

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thank you for wishing me good luck. Strange you should mention about the law in England and Wales as I have a recording of a telephone conversation with the bailiffs firm I am dealing with (or dealt with in the past) where their data controller states (direct quotation from the call), "Yeah, but you're in Wales now and Wales is governed bty a different set of laws to England!"

 

Hmmmm..... so two bailiff companies telling me two different things. You are correct I'm pleased to say. Indeed I will ensure information is correct. As I've said in previous posts, you may be a good bailiff and do things properly in which case I wish there were more of you. As you can see from the ones I dealt with (and I think you'll find many on here share my experiences) we receive from the bailiffs' companies to be kind inaccurate information, to be less kind pure lies!

 

By the way in 2010 I fought for compensation from councils and bailiffs on six different occasions, and every single time I won. Maybe one day I'll meet you in court, but they don't actually like letting it get that far usually. I wonder why?

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