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    • okay, perfect and thank you so much for the help once again. so firstly i am going to initiate the breathing space, during this time it's likely ill receive a default. when i receive the default are you aware of how long it will take for me to know whether the OC have sold it off to DCAs? Once it's with the DCAs i do not need to worry as they cannot issue a CCJ only the OCs can Even if i decide to come an arrangement with the DCAs no point as the default will remain for 6 years paid or not paid I should only consider repayment if the OC still won the debt and then issue a CCJ? Just to confirm the default will not be seen after 6 years? No one can tell I had one then after 6 years ill be all good?
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    • Thanks for opening, it's been another rough year for my family and I've procastinated a little.. Due to the age of my defaults on this and other accounts (circa 2021), I really need to avoid a CCJ as that will be another 6 years of credit issues. Mediation failed as I played the 'not enough info to make a decision' however during the call for some reason they did offer settlement at 80%, I refused. this has been allocated to small claims track, court date is June 3 and I've received their WS. I'm starting on my WS. They do appear to have provided everything required of them (even if docs could be reconstructions). Not really sure what my argument is anymore but I do want to attend court and see this through. Should a judgement be made against me then I will clear the balance within 30 days and have the CCJ removed - this is still possible isn't it? I'm going to be reading up today and tomorrow and hope you can provide me some guidance in the meantime. Wonder what your advice would be given the documents they have provided? I am now in a position to clear the debt either by lump sum or a few large installments - Is this something i should look into at this late stage? Thanks as always in advance
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I need some advice I received a PCN on 86 on 14 August 2010,

Made an Informal challenge on 20 August 2010 which was rejected,

Notice to Owner Received on 21 October 2010

Formal Challenge made on 02 November 2010

Charge Notice Received on 21 November 2010

Formal Challenge Rejected on 16 December 2010

 

Can you tell me if the council is in the wrong and where I can go with this? I was parked in an area not operated by the council car park which is attached, but parked outside my partners flat.

 

I have requested from the council to supply me with a detailed map showing the location for which the Parking Place Order relates and they have ignored but did supply me with a copy with the PPO which does not specify the boundaries of the car park which is adjoined by private land on which I was parked, belongs to Sainsbury and the residents of the flats.

 

Also if the PCN number has the CEO badge number incorrect does this render the PCN invalid? ie Badge Number is AB0012 but shown on PCN as AB012 missing a leading 0.

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Charge Notice Received on 21 November 2010

Formal Challenge Rejected on 16 December 2010

 

This is incorrect. The Council has fouled up. You could try applying for a tribunal hearing with PATAS alleging impropriety. They may resign the case rather than contest it at a hearing. Alternatively, you could write to the council and point out their mistake and ask them to cancel now - there's a chance they will. (Incidentally, the "Charge Notice" is in fact a Charge Certificate, right?)

 

I have requested from the council to supply me with a detailed map showing the location for which the Parking Place Order relates and they have ignored but did supply me with a copy with the PPO which does not specify the boundaries of the car park which is adjoined by private land on which I was parked, belongs to Sainsbury and the residents of the flats.

 

Also if the PCN number has the CEO badge number incorrect does this render the PCN invalid? ie Badge Number is AB0012 but shown on PCN as AB012 missing a leading 0.

 

No it does not, and to be honest, asking for documents in an appeal is pretty pointless. If you want them, ask for them in a seperate letter - it won't help your appeal to include a request there. If you have reasonable doubts about the car park boundary, this might be worth pursuing anyway, with a view to going to a tribunal with that as well.

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Documents uploaded to http://www.mattuk.net/pcn/gc2

 

PCN, NOR, NTO, Charge Certificate x 2, Informal Rejection Response.

 

Have just realised that the Charge Certifice has been issued TWICE ones dated thee 18th November the other 19th November and Notice of Rejection arrived today dated 15th December.

 

Thanks in advance.

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The next step for the council will be northhampton county court, And you will be able to make you representation there, if your right you will win!

 

I have been through this, not the same - the council would not acknoledge my appeals, so at court won by default. But good look

"Don't give in to astonishment", which is exactly what you want to do. You want to go nuts with how crazy this is! :-)

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Just to add

 

If the coucil did not follow procedure, you will win.

 

ie not there zone, not the right picture, they lost the cat

"Don't give in to astonishment", which is exactly what you want to do. You want to go nuts with how crazy this is! :-)

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For clarification, with reference to the above two posts:

 

The next step would normally be for the Council to register the debt with Northampton County Court, but as the Council has just issued you with a Notice of Rejection, you can take the case to adjudication instead. That's your call. It will stop the case progressing if you do. (You can't make representations via Northampton County Court, and nor do you need to.)

 

If the council did not follow procedure, you will not necessarily win, but it will be a line of argument you can pursue. It depends how the adjudicator sees it, whether it is deemed relevant to the case.

 

If the picture is not right (I guess that means if the CEO photographs do not prove the case), then this is largely immaterial.

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The next step for the council will be northhampton county court, And you will be able to make you representation there, if your right you will win!

 

I have been through this, not the same - the council would not acknoledge my appeals, so at court won by default. But good look

 

 

You CANNOT appeal a PCN at County Court, you cannot win by default, stop giving stupid advice!!

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So you either wait for the council to apply to the court, in my case they did write to me and ask for my side! then after you can go to the TPT

 

Or you go to the TPT, would proberly not give an increase in penalty if you are not sucessful, but may be the last chance, but not sure on this! As mine was canceled here.

 

Or take GnM advise and send the money in a chritmas card.

"Don't give in to astonishment", which is exactly what you want to do. You want to go nuts with how crazy this is! :-)

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So you either wait for the council to apply to the court, in my case they did write to me and ask for my side! then after you can go to the TPT

 

Or you go to the TPT, would proberly not give an increase in penalty if you are not sucessful, but may be the last chance, but not sure on this! As mine was canceled here.

 

Or take GnM advise and send the money in a chritmas card.

 

Look, you don't know how the system works, G&M does. You came here for advice because you don't understand how to deal with your own PCNs. Stop giving bogus advice out.

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Taylorit, obviously it's up to you whose advice you take. I won't insult you by telling you how to check someone's history on CAG [but post again if you don't happen to know], but having hung around the forum learning for a little while, I'd rather take the advice of someone who's consistently advised on parking than a cagger who's been on the forum for 10 minutes with their own [as yet unresolved] query.

 

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You should ring the Council and request the current staus of the case it should be on hold awaiting reps to the notice of rejection to TPT, if its at charge certificate stage ask why as you have only just had the NOR. Conplete the TPT forms and state 'no contravention took place' as you were not in the car park and include evidence to this fact. In addition state 'impropriety' as you got the CC whilst awaiting a NOR.

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