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Unbelievable that they should even be contemplating this.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11802378

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I can see tenants being kicked out of their £80 a week house and having to take a £125 a week house and no doubt Local Housing Allowance won't cover the rent should they get into difficulties. So what happens? They get evicted or struggle with other debts.

This policy is the Conservatives at their best. Screw the little man/woman whilst feathering their own nests. How many poor MP's are there

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was wondering if anyone saw panorama about the state of the house being let by landlords to tennants a while back? well i cant belive they are doing this surley this has got to be an invasion of privacey or somewhere on tyhe lines of it??im shocked to hear this!but there again if anyone saw the panorama documentry about landlords i dont think they'll be to picky about who they let it to aslong as the nash/dwp pay their rent

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Its a bit like the Child Benefit cuts. You stop getting it if you earn above a certain amount.

But this is a lot worse as you will be losing your home.

 

I wonder what the limit will be? Will they go on what the largest wage is, or add the husbands and wifes wage?

 

Its truly shocking some of the things this government are trying to get away with.

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Can't say I'm at all surprised, taking into consideration the other bright ideas the new government have come up with. One thing they haven't considered is how the hell they are going to administer it given that they propose to drastically cut public service employees. I can see both good and bad in this one, though.

 

Silverfox - I don't think those who would qualify for some means tested benefit will be affected very much. It appears to be looking to evict people who could afford private lets or mortgages to free up the Social housing for those most in need from a financial perspective.

 

In my view it's a good thing for the Welfare state because it would reduce poverty for those who currently struggle to make up shortfalls in LHA calculations as more affordable housing (whereby all the rent would be covered for those on means tested benefit) would be able to be made available for more people in need. But on the other hand, I don't see that they can justify turfing someone out of their home. If the evictee can find no other homes in the area within their budget, they may have to relocate jobs, schools for their children, dr's, dentist, social circle. It's not just a home that is packed up - it's a whole life - the emotional strain this could cause is unimaginable.

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On the news just before there was suggestions that Social housing landlords will be getting told to INCREASE rents.

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Unbelievable that they should even be contemplating this.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11802378

 

What would be more worrying is at the next general election

 

The tories get a working majority and don't need Lib dems support.

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We also have to look at this from another perspective. Why should a family who were given social housing due to theri financial circusmtances continue to live in that house when theri income has increased over a specific threshold, i.e. jointly £ +£30,000 when there is another more deserving family currently stating in B& B accommodation who have severe financial problesm due to the recession of perhaps other reasons. I thought the idea of social housing was to help those less well off and unfortunate deu to circumstances?

I also think that the government needs to look at the situation of elderly people living in a great big 3 - 5 bedroom houses where sometimes there is only one occupant as their family have all moved on. To keep the place clean and tidy is a major task when they should be enjoying their twilight years. I do appreciate and understand that to uplift them from thier current neighbourhood would be very stressful, but by the same token it frees up houses for those with a greater need. In addition, the neighbourhood would have changed and many of their friends in the area passed on. The government should eb creating more community centres , i.e. housing complexes for the elderly where they can mix with those of their own age etc and have a lot more things in common with one another and perhaps do things that they did many years ago.

I know that not many people will agree with thsi attititdue but it seems a waste of public money building more social housing just because a large number of houses are occupied by people who don't really qualify for social housing any more and others where the housing associationa re wating for them to die so that the house can be given to a deserving family. This sort of task will need to be dealt with by people with some compassion and not mindless government stooges who follow the book of rules!

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Some good points there surfer.

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"I also think that the government needs to look at the situation of elderly people living in a great big 3 - 5 bedroom houses where sometimes there is only one occupant as their family have all moved on. "

 

I don't know if this happened all over Britain, but back when my father was a child and they were in council housing it was standard practice to move families up and down house size dependant on the amount of children. His family were moved from a 2 to a 3 bedroom house when there were 4 children (2 girls and 2 boys) yes, children had to share rooms back then!, and then back to a 2 beroom house when the oldest children left home through marriage or work. In my local village just now where there were about 50 council houses, approx 30 of which have been sold to the owners, of the remaining 20 there are about 10 of the 3 bedroom houses who just have 1 person living in them because their family have grown up and their spouse is deceased.

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Just in case you don't know it, they already do when you apply for housing, housing and council benefits so nothing different there. The only drawback to this master plan is that if you are about to lose your council home, then make sure you or one of you become unemployed. I guess they did not think of that one!

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This is utterly disgusting and unjust. What gives them the god damn right to do this. Those in social housing are there because they cannot afford to buy they most certainly should not have the right to force people out of there homes. I am in 3 bed h/A home and my children have now grown up and left home. Should I be forced to move from my family home. Answer NO to force me to move would mean to me that I would lose all contact with my children and grandchildren as they live in different towns and countries. I would love to be able to buy my own home unfortunately I could not even get a mortgage now even if I did have a higher income as I am now 46. So instead i have to go on paying rent, which by the way costs more than it would if I were to have a mortgage and is set to get considerably higher.

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It's a double edged sword, really. Typical of the current government.

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I think that you have not read it through nor given it much thought and just fired off a post. They are saying that people who can afford to move out of social housing should, not those that can't afford to do so. Also as you have stated, your children have moved on and live in different towns and countries so in a sense there is no reason for a single occupant in a large house. It is not as if they are going to be moving you to the north pole.

If the housing people offered you suitable 1 or 2 bedroom accommodation is a similar area and were prepared to pay the cost of you moving into a smaller place to free up a bigger place for a deserving family, then it should be considered as you are only renting the place and do not own it. You were given the opportunity when you had a younger family to have suitable accommodation so why shouldn't you now give that opportunity to a new family if alternative suitable accommodation was offered to you?

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yeah but i think the point here is how are they going to look into your bank accounts?

 

they may ask for bank info at the moment but you're certainly not obligated to show it to them. If you have a claim for benefits then this makes you automatically entitled to housing benefits too in most cases. they may ask for bank details, up to you if you want to show it to them...better to just give them the benefits proof.

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I think that you have not read it through nor given it much thought and just fired off a post. They are saying that people who can afford to move out of social housing should, not those that can't afford to do so. Also as you have stated, your children have moved on and live in different towns and countries so in a sense there is no reason for a single occupant in a large house. It is not as if they are going to be moving you to the north pole.

If the housing people offered you suitable 1 or 2 bedroom accommodation is a similar area and were prepared to pay the cost of you moving into a smaller place to free up a bigger place for a deserving family, then it should be considered as you are only renting the place and do not own it. You were given the opportunity when you had a younger family to have suitable accommodation so why shouldn't you now give that opportunity to a new family if alternative suitable accommodation was offered to you?

 

Hi, ...I lost my Job with the local Council about 16 years ago. At the time I lived in tied housing with my then 8 year old son and wife. It was arranged for me by the council to meet with a H/A guy and we were taken to look at a brand new 2-Bed house locally and within a few days moved in ( no waiting lists , Interviews, etc.)...

 

In the last few years we have spent a lot of money on the house. We couldn't afford this before as my sons education was paramount. I'm 63 now and due to illness have only been able to work partime. My Wife ( 53) works full time. I have been on Incapacity Benefit for the last 4 years.

 

Now do I have to give up my 2-bed Hse at my (our) age??? My son can't afford to rent privately and still lives at home....Our Rent is £ 450 per month for the house, which is very small by the way and has a very small garden and I wouldn't mind paying up to 20% more per month. In this area the equivalant would cost nearly £1000 to rent per month privately.

 

In Europe people have a far superior security in renting privately than here because People are NOT conditioned to own their Property and renting is the norm . Furthermore, in this country when reaching old age they risk having their own property taken away again to pay for their care.

 

In my Opinion that is perverse.

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