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    • CB ....this conclusion is true.   as for PB, i can assure you that user most probably ( well i know but shouldn't say} holds the record here for the most reported posts by users as well as from those of the site team concerning his posts. if you hold on someones username further info can be seen.   however , a bit like say vodaphone or virgin media , very large companies with millions of customers will get the most complaints made against them...and that equates to posting levels here too. as for 'royalties account holder' that again merely points, by a default label in the software package we use, to the number of posts made.   one could further this by noting were we to agree with all their posts they would be on the siteteam... i will leave you to understand why not .....       don't think anyone did?    regards  DX
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And for something that Peterbard describes as benefitting from being newsworthy, I am struggling to find all the news reports that refer to it.       Confucius  say "he who backpedals, falls off bike."    I'm not surprised in the least that you, a gold account holder on this forum, would adopt a dismissive attitude to this well deserved victory in court against DCBL, however I'm curious as to why you opted to reduce the issues at stake to being 'simply' about ' the EA fell foul of the regulation which defines "relevant premises".   That certainly wasn't any argument that Iain Gould furthered and he's a civil actions lawyer whom, dare I say it, know a hell of a lot more about trespass and misuse of private information than you do.   The judge never mentioned "relevant premises" either. Not during the hearing or in his judgement. And you never mentioned it either prior to know. In fact, in the original  in the original 2018 thread you even went so far as to suggest that whatever address was on the writ was irrelevant because, "interestingly, if the address is not  a requirement it would not be possible to sue the bailiff for wrong attendance under section 66."   Not that your wrongfully held opinion that non debtors are also subject to the Tribunals Courts and Enforcement Act 2007 matters, because as I had already pointed out in the first video because the claimant wasn't suing for wrong attendance under section 66.   He sued for trespass. Part 66 never applied to him because he was not the debtor and never had been. You and the likes of DCBL can disregard that obvious point as much as you like, but bailiffs do not have a blanket immunity from trespass.   Have a look at the article Iain Gould has written on his blog about the case. It might help you understand the tort of trespass in some small way, and might help you adopt a more balanced approach to those poor sods who owed no debt and have had their homes raided and their privacy breached by EAs, and then - to add insult to injury - they come to you looking for help.   What makes it worse is that your defective understanding of when an Enforcement Agents action can give rise to trespass is backed up by your site team members who think it's their job to echo your mistakes not by justifying what you say - because they can't - but by making defamatory remarks at the expense of those who give the 'correct advice'.   Unlike you and your team members I don't hide behind the protection of anonymity. Nobody can hold you to account if you get it wrong, or heaven forbid, if it turns out you  have been working for a firm of debt collectors all along. To add to this, you don't seem to care much about removing libellous remarks from your forum when a legitimate complaint is raised.   To respond to Bank Fodders comment that "At some point in the video it has screenshots of this forum and the narrative suggests that some people agree that an enforcement agent has the power to enter into a property to check on identity. I think that it is intended that the CAG is associated with this belief."   Seriously? I have to point it out to you.   Maybe it has something to do with key members of this forum smearing me on the original thread by saying how wrong my narrative was and then implying I was a Freeman of the Land.   Maybe it had something to do with Gold Member Peter Bard leaving this comment on the same thread that stated:   "The point I was trying to make is that the EA will not be as interested in paperwork as in physical proof that the debtor does or does not live there.   As said there is no requirement for an address on a warrant, in fact the debtor may live at several addresses and the bailiff may attend to serve at any of them. The warrant is against the debtor, not the debtor at an address. It requires only enough info to identify the person.( see CPR wherever it is).   The bailiff will be much more interested in getting in and checking for clothes in wardrobes, sleeping accommodation, letters etc."   I'm sorry if that wasn't enough for you to justify me bringing that point up in the video. I did consider coming here before I completed it and asking those members if they intended to maintain their position that the Enforcement Agent had acted within the law but strangely the forum account I had used to make my first and only posting on this forum in 2018 - to counter the smears - would not allow me to sign in.   Far be it from me to draw any conclusions about my input not being welcome here, I figured Peterbard and some of the key members here would use their creative skills at providing a blanket immunity from civil liability for all EAs by misinterpreting key legislation in their behalf.    It looks like I was right about that also. Unfortunately I have given in to temptation, and am choosing to respond, even though I know how utterly futile it is.
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Yesterday after 2 weeks of being suspended, I have gone to my hearing to be told basically they have no facts on who took 3000 pound out of a safe.


On the day it could had happened there are many scenarios that could had happened.


The problem I have now is, I have only been employed for 7 months on a contract.


There was a serious lack of security with no cameras in the area of the safe.


Ill explain how the whole nightmare has happened.


I am one of the 4 people with a code which i required to do my job in the mornings when i had over the cash float to a security van around 9:30am. I was lumbered the responsibly regardless of my objections after another member of staff was laid off. At the time i took this as a sign of trust from my employer and still being on probation was a bit nervous that some one so new to the company had been given this must responsibly. None of the procedures were ever told to me and i had to work them out my self.


The Friday before a sales man took payment part in cash for a motor vehicle, Which we brought over to me and another colleague after he had finished. Quite casually throw it on the table in front of us and made a bit of a joke about how this is 3 months pay. I advised him it had to be put in the green pods which can be dropped in to the safe with out its opening, at this point he just said its fine all it need is to be put in the safe as he had worked at head office before and that is what they would do.


I asked him to witness me put this in the safe.

Then told him he needs to call our accountant to let her know its in the safe.


4 days later accounts rang up asking about the money and where it was so i straight away checked to see if the same envelope was still in the safe with a witness which it was.


later that day managers were also asked to check it at 5:30 that evening to which it was still there.


This should had been counted on the Monday but was miss for what ever reason.


I work 8am -7pm every weekday and i do my daily tasked in the evening which are to check cars are locked and the site is closed down correctly ready to active the alarm.


On the day in question we had every member of staff in after hours (6pm) minus 2 people that had been laided off that day and 1 person that was fired.There was a company meeting with our area manager. every one was in one place including my self till 7:30 on this day talking to my managing director thanking him for the comment he made after I had came 3rd in the country for hitting prospecting targets and also won some money from the company as part of there competition.


In his email he stated 'If every one had a (me) at there branch we would hit all our targets and would be much better off'. this was a week before the money went missing. I also had been given awards in branch for my hard work which was presented to me by my manager.


The morning after this meet i was told one of the the managers who was laided off was in 7am before every one else to collect his stuff. When i came in later that morning and i was asked to get the cash float to give to the security man i took the bag and gave it to him assuming the money had been counted and was in the bag.


later that day this is when everything had changed.

The money wasn't in the bag and i was suspended after being interrogated by HR and accounts being treated like a criminal being ridiculed but staff treating it like a joke and pointing the finger and now i've lost my job to pretty much what I do every day, Which no facts of prove apart from the only cameras leading out of the building.


I had been working very hard doing lots of over time and cross training in the company. Also I have my driving test on the 26 November which I could had received a company car, as well as being one of there top prospectors and being given praise through out I have just been dumped as a way to justify them self's and this has now left me unable to slept for over 10 days being extremely depressed and now signed off work due to my mental condition they have left me in. As well as leaving me in a very vulnerable position with work, which is going to be very hard to get back into now.


I am going to appeal and going CAB on Monday to start a tribunal But i would like to know what you think on the topic and if im going to get any where.


Many Thanks



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Hello D***, sorry to hear all this. I have to go out, but if that's you real name in and at the bottom of your post, could I suggest you edit it out for your own security.




Could you do the same please many thanks

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Could you do the same please many thanks


A bit pointless when you put your real name in your User ID. But I can save you a whole load of wasted trips. You can't make an application to a tribunal - you have only been employed there for 7 months. Therefore the employer can sack you and you can't make a claim. Sorry.


I am a barrister specialising in employment law, and only represent employees. My advice on employment issues is advice - not legal opinion - and is based only on the facts you provide. If you want an accurate assessment of your case and prospects, you should get legal opinion from a lawyer - not a public forum. Anything I tell you is for guidance only, and is based on my experience of the law in the context of what details you provide.


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