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Foster Care application and Enhanced CRB Checks


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Hello there, I am new here and apologise in advance if I have put this in the wrong section!

My husband and I have been thinking for a long time about fostering. We finally looked into it all and had a home visit today, which seemed to go very well indeed.

Both my husband and I are law-abiding people, and neither of us have ever had so much as a parking ticket, let alone any criminal convictions.

The social worker that came to see us spoke about an Enhanced CRB check, so we have been looking on line for information about it. It would appear that it means that the social workers will be asking the local police force about ANYTHING that may be relevant to us fostering.

Totally understandable, but we are slightly worried. Just about a year ago, we (hubby and I) had a bit of a domestic which got a bit heated and there was shouting. The police came and spoke to us and calmed us down, and then left. A few days later I got a call from the local authority asking were we ok, as the police lady had contacted them becuase I have a daughter (13, who wasnt even in the house at the time) I explained to the local authority lady that this was just an argument that got over heated, everyone over reacted, and that we were all totally fine. I never heard anything else.

We are just really worried now that the police records will show that they came to our house to deal with a "Domestic" which was basically nothing more than a heated argument between my husband and I (Which, I may add, is one of only TWO arguments we have EVER had - seriously we never have a cross word, as hard as that is to believe, it is true.) and that the foster people will be upset with that and not allow us to foster becuase of it. We both are professional people, I am an accountant, a councillor, a school governor etc, hubby is retired from the forces, so as I said, we are both good people, who had a lousy day and a bit of an argument that got out of hand and police came to shut us both up! Nothing has happenned since. Can anyone give us some advice on this as I am worried. Many Thanks

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I have to say, I have had a real negative experience here, due to a malicious and vexatious complaint (against hubby of last 20+ years) from a family member with a personality disorder, which had absolutely no basis in fact, and yet it stopped us in our tracks, despite all reasoning to social services from all family members. It remains the single most traumatic thing that has ever happened to me - as of course, I had done nothing wrong, other than being closely related to someone who sees the world a little differently..shall we say..

 

 

 

However, I do believe the gov are relaxing the rules, would post a link but not allowed, as not a regular enough poster on here yet, although I read a lot, but try crb then dot homeoffice then gov then uk....and hope you find the latest news here...............

 

there was some announcements the other day - and given the detail involved, a more supportive social services may just look differently, and see this as the one off which you say it is - but you may want to look upon the services of a family lawyer, just for your own peace of mind. I would.

 

Good luck (and I DO hope you dont live anywhere near me, and therefore share the same social work department)

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I have got to be honest - it should show up on an eCRB. The best thing to do is to be honest and say so to the social worker. This is life, not a fairy story, and Sh!t happens! I'd be a damned sight more worried if you were a perfect couple who never had a problem that got out of hand. Biological parents don't have such lives (often because of the children!) and you'd be lucky fosterers if life isn't going to throw some interesting curve balls! They aren't looking for perfection - they want safety and security. So given it should show up, and may well do so - get in first and tell them! Then it won't come as a surprise or an alarm bell - just "one of those things". Appearing to hide it may raise alarm bells that aren't realistic.

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hello,

 

As far as im aware any incident is reported and logged on the P.N.C. police national computer, so there will be records regarding any issues. tell tell tell everything to all the relevant people in your situation, hold nothing back as if you do they will think you have something to hide. being truthful is more thought of than holding things back because if any incident has been reported ect they will find out.

 

good luck, i hope things work out

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just to add i dont think it will be on an enhanced crb at all, i had many issues with my ex and none of this showed on the many enhanced crbs ive had, (the police were often called) however it will be recorded somewhere, like i said the P.N.C.

 

hope all works out well

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hello,

 

As far as im aware any incident is reported and logged on the P.N.C. police national computer, so there will be records regarding any issues. tell tell tell everything to all the relevant people in your situation, hold nothing back as if you do they will think you have something to hide. being truthful is more thought of than holding things back because if any incident has been reported ect they will find out.

 

good luck, i hope things work out

 

Just a slight correction for reasons of clarity. Whilst convictions and official cautions would be reported on the PNC (and therefore a police visit would not show up on a standard CRB disclosure unless further action was taken), the enhanced CRB needed in this case is dealt with by the local police authority and involves searches of locally held records of police involvement (such as calls to Domestics) even where no further action was warranted. If the record is felt appropriate to the purpose of the application (and just about everything, if the applicant is dealing with potentially vulnerable people, will be deemed potentially relevant) then it will be included.

 

I can only echo the sentiments above. It is extremely likely that this will show up, but it is not necessarily the end of the world. It was a one off incident, it happens to a lot of people, and arguments are a part of normal family life. There has been no repetition and it would have no bearing on the level of care given or environment in which the foster child would be placed.

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Speaking from experience (working in Social Services) checks would be made from within, so this means that the previous call will be logged in the records. They will be aware of this, and may ask about it.

 

As somebody said just be honest - this happens all the time. Which family never has arguments?

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Thank you all for your advice. I think you are right, it is best to just call the lovely lady that came to see us, tell her about the silliness that was that day we actually had a row, tell her what happenned and that this was one of those stupid situations that just got a little too heated and the police came to see us to shut us both up from shouting basically!

I will give them a call tomorrow and tell them how worried I have been about this, and hopefully they will be able to tell me that I have done the right thing in telling them, and that honesty is the best policy. Im sure you are all right, thanks for the advice, will keep you posted.

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