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I have just received a Parking Contravention enforcement notice from Civil Enforcement Ltd. The location that my car was parked was the Interchange Retail Park, Ipswich. My wife and I visited the location to purchase a laptop computer from PC World. There were no clear signs anywhere depicting any parking limitations. I have read the excellent contributions made so far on this site and agree that this is a Civil Matter as opposed to a Criminal Offence under the various Road Traffic Acts and Parking Regulations enforced by Police or Local Authority.

 

The 'evidence' is said in the notice to be photographic. A camera sited at the entrance to the car park. I live a long way from the location and have not been back and thus I ask whether anyone out there has ever seen any of the photographs taken and what is included on them. I note on the notice that they require £10 for copies. I am sure that in a police prosecution, they would be sent so that you could decide upon your plea.

 

I suspect also that the equipment has to regularly checked for time accuracy and a document kept as proof. I wonder if they do.

 

Alsoo, does anyone know whether in a Civil Court action, they would have to depict the exact location that a vehicle was parked - it might have been parked in the delivery bay!

 

As with the advise on this site I shall not succumb to paying the sum but would welcome any other thoughts.

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Hello and Welcome,

 

I've moved this thread to the appropriate Forum.

 

Regards.

 

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I think that you will find that the most often given advice on these is to ignore them entirely.

 

What you have received should be seen as an invitation to pay a sum of money in return for not receiving unsolicited mail, threatening you with all sorts of bad things which are most unlikely to happen.

 

Do not give this the credit of comparing it to a Police issued FPN or a Local Authority issued PCN. There is no legal relationship at all. The only relationship is a ploy to dupe you into thinking they have any status.


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I receive an unwieldy number of private messages. I am happy to respond to messages posted on open forum but am unable to respond to private messages, seeking advice, when the substance of that message should properly be on the open forum.

Many thanks for your assistance and understanding on this.

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And don't be misled by that name "Civil Enforcement Ltd." It's just a private company trying to give the illusion that it's got some sort of quasi-official status, when it's got none. This is just one example of private parking companies trying to fool people into thinking they are an official bodies which you must take notice of.

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You've missed the most important thing - the charge is for alleged breach of contract, for which they have to prove their actual losses.

 

The losses incurred on a free car park are zero. If you were a customer at the store and made a purchase, you would probably have more of a claim against Civil Enforcement than they do against you.

 

Don't get caught up by thinking of evidence. They talk about photos and other rubbish to trick you into thinking the charge is legitimate and to precisely make you think of police prosecutions and council tickets.

 

It's a mail [problem]. Ignore them, and the 4 or 5 bits of junkmail they'll send you.

 

Relax and enjoy your laptop. You won't be going anywhere near court.

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ignore!!!

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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You are giving them far too much credit, as stated, ignore.

regards


Please remember our troops, fighting and dying in our name. God protect them.

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Thanks everyone for the advise and encouragement. I had in mind, should I receive the next piece of correspondence, to write and ask what exact signing there was at the time and date of my alleged 'infringement'. Any thoughts?

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Thanks everyone for the advise and encouragement. I had in mind, should I receive the next piece of correspondence, to write and ask what exact signing there was at the time and date of my alleged 'infringement'. Any thoughts?

A complete waste of time, effort and money. Save yourself all three by just continuing to ignore anything they send you.

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Dear All who have advised and encouraged.

 

I have had a result :-)which I suspect is rare. I telephoned PC World giving them all the facts and that I had been a customer at their store on the day in question. An assistant informed me that he would email Civil Enforcement to cancel the notice. I did not really believe that this would actually happen. However, On Friday last I received a letter from Civil Enforcement confirming cancellation of the notice. The letter was signed but no name.

 

One thing that has confused me a little is that the notice and the letter have a North London post mark (NW9) and the office is in Liverpool.

 

The message really is, if anyone is a customer at one of the stores, then it is worth contacting that store to see whether they have any sort of arrangement with the enforcement agency.

 

Hope this helps.

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Well done!

 

Not sure it's possible for a letter to cancel something that is unenforceable though :-) Think of it more as a notice that they won't bother you with some junkmail.

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Dear All who have advised and encouraged.

 

One thing that has confused me a little is that the notice and the letter have a North London post mark (NW9) and the office is in Liverpool.

 

Dave, there is no office in Liverpool, that address is merely a mail-drop and forwarding facility.

The actual address from which this [problem] is operated by CEL is,

 

Unit 3 Colindale Business Park

126 Colindale Avenue

London

NW9 5HD

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Dear B and T,

 

Thanks for clearing up this mystery for me. I am amazed as to how you have found this out.

 

Anyway, cheers.

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Dear B and T,

 

Thanks for clearing up this mystery for me. I am amazed as to how you have found this out.

 

Anyway, cheers.

 

Elementary my dear Watson.............;)

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Hi

Welcome to The Consumer Action Group.

 

 

I am just letting you know that as you haven't had any replies to your post yet, it might be better if you post your message again in an appropriate sub-forum. You will get lots of help there.

 

Also take some time to read around the forum and get used to the layout. It is a big forum and takes a lot of getting used to.

 

 

Once you start to find your way, you will soon realise that it is fairly easy to get round and to get the help you need.

 

It can be bit confusing at first.


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