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Not sure what this means but I found this listing on the London Gazette to day.

 

Gazette Issue 822697 published on the 10 August 2010. Page 581 of 1823

 

EXCLUSIVE LEATHER SOFAS LIMITED 04290207 (D1) 30/07/2010

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Hope this will help you just came across it on the Birmingham Trading Standards Website.

 

 

 

 

EXCLUSIVE LEATHER SOFAS LIMITED

A winding up petition has been lodged at the High Court in relation to Exclusive Leather Sofas Ltd. As far as we are aware the company has four outlets located at:- Birmingham (Camp Hill), Derby, Luton and Cannock; with Cannock being the head office. All of these stores have ceased to trade.

The petition will be heard at Manchester High Court on 20 September 2010. If the company is wound up an insolvency practitioner will be appointed. It is the insolvency practitioner who will sort out the financial affairs of the company and it is to this person that any complaints about Exclusive Leather Sofas should be addressed.

When we know who the insolvency practitioner is we will update this web page accordingly.

In the meantime, if you have purchased your furniture on finance and it has not been delivered you should write a letter to the finance company explaining the situation, please remember to send this by recorded delivery. The finance company should then release you from the agreement and refund any monies already paid to them.

If your complaint has not been resolved or you paid cash for your furniture you should still contact the insolvency practitioner so that you may be put on the list of potential creditors. The practitioner will then, after paying the main creditors such as the banks and utilities, use any monies which are left over to refund customers.

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It is worth noting that Luton is still active as far as I can tell and have a new limited name to boot. Really how can they just allowed to set up elsewhere. After being a blatent [problem]. Can't believe that is the case!

They have done this so many times before as well!!!!

Searching companies house and ICC they have a number of companies linked and a number of new setup ones.

I think I will be paying them a visit.

What is even more insulting and fustrating is that the directors have put in a £200,000 claim themselves in the liquidation. No wonder there is no money to go around.

So they get all the furniture from the shop when they shut it. Which they took out the day they declared liquidation, it was seen by the neighbours. All the money from dodgy transactions where they probably did not order all furniture in first place (we waited over 25 months to NOT recieve our furniture). Then they can put in a claim of £200,000 for a business they only used as a vehicle to get our money.

Not happy and I'm surprised no-one in authority is making it known they are looking into this.

What is more they are actively still selling the furniture! It must be the same furniture as we know it takes forever to arrive. So how have they stocked their new stores when they went bankrupt, especially after not forfilling their payments to their manufacturers?

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Companies I know of in their dodgy empire:

ELS (LUTON) LIMITED - incorp 16/06/2010 !!!!!

ELS (HULL) LIMITED - Incorporated - 15/07/2010 !!!!

EXCLUSIVE LEATHER SOFAS (SOUTH EAST) LIMITED - still active

LEATHER SOFAS LIMITED - accounts filed in April - still active

E.L.S. (HOLDINGS) LIMITED - Lichfield based - still active

SOFA SUPERMARKET LIMITED

LEATHER SOFAS LIMITED

Leather Lords Limited

Exclusive Leather Sofas Limited

The list goes on.

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It was a salesman called Jon Fisher that conned me into buying a leather sofa from their Cannock branch. It was just before all this kicked off so he must have known what was coming. He made a big play on how good and trustworthy ELS was and how he would never have anything to do with a dodgy company. He also said he worked frequently at the Luton branch, so maybe that's where he is now.

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I found this today. I hope it helps! My story, quite mild in comparison to some, in red at the bottom.

EXCLUSIVE LEATHER SOFAS LIMITED

A winding up petition has been lodged at the High Court in relation to Exclusive Leather Sofas Ltd. As far as we are aware the company has four outlets located at:- Birmingham (Camp Hill), Derby, Luton and Cannock; with Cannock being the head office. All of these stores have ceased to trade.

The petition was heard at Manchester High Court on 20 September 2010. As a result of this the following insolvency pratitioner was appointed.

Mr A Appleyard

RSM Tenon Recovery

6th Floor

Salisbury House

31 Finsbury Circus

London

EC2M 5SQ

 

If you have purchased your furniture via cash or cheque and it has not been delivered you should write a letter of complaint to the insolvency practioner at the above address and you will be placed on a list of creditors. The practitioner will then, after paying the main creditors such as the banks and utilities, use any monies which are left over to refund customers.

 

If you purchased the furniture on finance then put your complaint in wiriting to the finance company explaining the situation, please remember to send this by recorded delivery. The finance company should then release you from the agreement and refund any monies already paid to them

 

I ordered a suite on the 28/12/2009 on finance with Creation CF. The suite was promised within the month. Creation took out the first payment in January although payments shouldn't have started until after delivery. I decided not to confuse matters by questioning the payment as the suite would be delivered in February. The suite was finally delivered in June by which time I had paid 6 payments. More fool you I hear you cry. The suite is ok but I took out extra cover in case of damage More fool you I hear you cry again. I approached Creation about their part in this. I was told they were informed by ELS the delivery had taken place in January and that's why the payments started then. I asked about the insurance cover and who now takes responsibility for this. As yet I have had no response to my letter a month ago

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Companies I know of in their dodgy empire:

ELS (LUTON) LIMITED - incorp 16/06/2010 !!!!!

ELS (HULL) LIMITED - Incorporated - 15/07/2010 !!!!

EXCLUSIVE LEATHER SOFAS (SOUTH EAST) LIMITED - still active

LEATHER SOFAS LIMITED - accounts filed in April - still active

E.L.S. (HOLDINGS) LIMITED - Lichfield based - still active

SOFA SUPERMARKET LIMITED

LEATHER SOFAS LIMITED

Leather Lords Limited

Exclusive Leather Sofas Limited

The list goes on.

 

Hi,

 

I have traced this bunch of crooks all the way back to LORDS DEPARTMENTAL STORES LTD that went into liquidation around 1987.

 

The directors seem to have a couple of mansions near Gaydon, looks like it has been a bit of a family wheeze for at least 20 years now taking deposits for designer goods, delivering rubbish goods if at all and then folding the company to start again. They have a pipeline of Limited Companies that they swap around from address to address, name to name and director to director. What the hell Companies house are doing other than putting forms in a filing cabinet I don't know, one company has Gary Lord as a Director and Garry Lord as a Company Secretary both of 1 & 2 Heritage Park. Considering that you are supposed to have two people to run a limited company that is pretty clever.

 

Best of luck getting any money back. I have a "loaner" sofa from these clowns that I am now going to have to replace. Being as I appear to have been conned by some fairly serious crooks I don't even know if this thing in my living room is even fire retardant let alone safe for my children to play on.

 

Ho hum

 

SOTF

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Hi everyone:-),

 

I have just found out that this company has folded. I paid cash for a 3+2 sofas in August.:-x

 

I want to write a letter to the insolvency practitioner and send it off today but need a bit of guidance on what to write.:???:

 

If anyone could suggest a good format which includes any relevant information/laws I have to state I would be very greatful.

 

Thank you :-D

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Hi everyone:-),

 

I have just found out that this company has folded. I paid cash for a 3+2 sofas in August.:-x

 

I want to write a letter to the insolvency practitioner and send it off today but need a bit of guidance on what to write.:???:

 

If anyone could suggest a good format which includes any relevant information/laws I have to state I would be very greatful.

 

Thank you :-D

 

I wouldn't bother wasting either the ink or the cost of a stamp as there won't be any return to creditors in this Liquidation.

 

If you want to write something I would suggest 100 lines of "I will not be as stupid as to pay for expensive goods I order by cash in advance ever again"

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I too, have been stung by the ELS curse -on 21st August I put £1000 down by cheque (which I have lost) and signed a credit agreement for a further £2000 with Creation Finance which I expected to go through on delivery of the sofa - some 16 weeks later. In fact within a month ELS went into liquidation as we know but also clearly rushed through the Finance Agreements. By the time I found out ELS had gone into liquidation, Creation Finance had taken two direct debit payments from my account. I have to say my bank were brilliant, they stopped the payment and refunded my money I wish I could say thats the end of the story and I can put it down to experience and move on, not so. I have had a nasty letter from Creation Finance threatening me with all kinds of fees if I dont reinstate the Direct Debit, when I called them to explain - I had the worst Customer Service Asst I have ever had, she talked over me didnt want to listen and explained that she knew ELS how gone into liquidation but until 'everything had gone through' I should continue to make my payments to keep me credit worthy!! She even 'assured' me, my money would eventually be returned when it was all sorted out! Needless to say, I wont be continuing the payments - but how can they make threats about my credit worthiness when I didnt receive the goods?????

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...but how can they make threats about my credit worthiness when I didnt receive the goods?????

 

Because ELS no doubt told them you have got the goods and of course that triggered a payment by Creation to ELS, accordingly Creation are out of pocket. You have done the right thing cancelling the DD as you are always in a stronger position if you are the one with the money rather than them. I would (if you have not already) write to Creation at their Belfast head office, rather than the muppets in Soiihull:-

 

Creation Consumer Finance Ltd

Sixth Floor, Royston House,

Belfast,

BT1 6FX

 

Tell them the tale, emphasise that you have not received the goods, that you are aware that they are aware of the Liquidation and the many other people who despite what ELS have told them have not received the goods. Advise that you have no intention of paying any money for something they have not received and request written confirmation that the finance agreement has been torn up and that that is the end of the matter. Send it Recorded Delivery.

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Thanks for that, I had written to them - but not sent it recorded - surprise, surprise - I had another call yesterday asking when I was going to resume payments, no record of a letter or a phone call. I have now sent another letter recorded delivery as advised, with a copy of the original letter, the winding up order, two letters from the liquidator (one telling me that I had no hope of receiving my goods) and a copy of the Birmingham Trading Standards homepage which names ELS as being in liquidation and advises people that if they write to the finance company they will be released from the Agreement (yes!! Apparently its that easy!!) - Call me cynical, but I dont think I've heard the last of it, although there's no more I can do - will keep you posted, thanks again!!

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I wonder if anyone can help , im having problems with another sofa company in that they have sent us the wrong corner unit for the sofa we ordered.

 

We paid the deposit by credit card and on top of the credit card slip it says "ELS" would this company be part of the company in question on this thread??

 

if so can anyone help with the problem im having and have a look at my other thread about the wrong sofa!!

 

thanks very much

 

steve

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I have read your posts on the other thread and I'm somewhat confused and not convinced it is the same company.

 

You stated that you went into the shop yesterday, but Exclusive Leather Sofas Ltd (which traded as ELS) ceased trading in August and entered Complusory Liquidation on 20 September 2010. What is the address of the shop you are dealing with?

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Hi there the shop i am dealing with is called..... "yes, the sofa specialist " it is based in droitwich spa and has its own website

 

the slips from the credit card transaction definatley say ELS in the top corner.

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It wouldn't surprise me if they are the same as Exclusive Leather Sofa's have also been known by Land of Leather and used the same paperwork from the Stories, that I have been reading on here.

To me it sounds like they have done it again, used a different name and still using the same paper work.

If you are unsure asked who the Manager is off the Shop and try and see if it matches the Manager there before, also isn't it strange why, they are using a different name on there heading and not the name of the Shop, I would make enquiries about this that to the Shop, because it is a leading binding Contract between you the Customer and the Shop unless they are stating they are ELS (what does it stand for in their terms?) and where does it stand for you in the long run?

 

I would personal seek some advice of Trading Standards and as for there web site, they state they are opening a branch in Birmingham on Camp Hill God Help them if they are the same People.

 

Sorry to give you this feed back, or play it safe and try and resolve your three corner suit unless they get nasty with you.

 

All the Best of Luck

 

:mad2::mad2:

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I have just been looking on the sofa specialist website and on the bottom it says "NOW OPEN BIRMINGHAM CAMP HILL

COME IN AND SEE OUR NEW SHOWROOM" So am i right in thinking the company i am having problems with are part of the ELS group??

 

I really need help here as im about to lose just short of £2500 on a sofa i cant use!!

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Hi Steve if you have paid for the whole item then you are more secured then you think.

 

First of all contact them on phone and put a copy of the conversation in writing by recorded delivery explaining this item is not the correct item you have ordered which should state on your invoice.

Give them a week notice noticed to come and collect the furniture and deliver the correct goods.

If they give you a date good, if they start getting funny with you, just tell them if the goods have not been collected and the correct goods received you will be charging storage fees and inconvenient fee's, that's if it get's to that stage be very persistent.

 

Contact Trading Standards for further advice and also send a copy letter to your credit card company explaining you have received the wrong goods and proof with it, your Credit Card company should be able to help you under the Consumer Credit Act, as long as you have not paid by cash you should be fine, it's just all the inconvenience that comes with unfortunately, make sure all correspondence is copied and sent recorded delivery.

 

I did drove past the Store today in B-ham and it does have the New Name on it, but I am sure it's the same People that's doing it as their web site does not show any furniture how strange is that.

 

 

All the Best, Good Luck

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Sorry to say but these people have been doing this for about 30 years. They literally have dozens of companies that they rename move jumble about mix up liquidate and restart. I would say that the chance of you getting the cash element back are very small. They will delay and delay and delay until someone gets a winding up order on their business and then they will remove the display sofas and let the official receiver pick over the contents of the bins to try and pay off customers.

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Having major problems with Yes sofa specialist in Droitwich got a gut feeling that the company wont be there when i got to pickup

already 3 weeks late and have had 6 delivery dates which all failed. the last phone call resulted in a date given to me even though i haven't even given them my customer ref? how did they know which one i was?.

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Hi I'm having big probs with yes sofa, I'm awaiting delivery of a swivel chair which I ordered back in July. Thankfully my corner unit was delivered back in sept but I wanted the swivel chair custom made to match so I was told it would take 8-12 weeks for delivery. 6 months later and I'm still being fobbed off. For the 1st few months all we got was 'we'll call the factory and ring you back' - did they hell. Now it's 'yes it's been made but on the wrong colour, it's been sat in the warehouse with no ticket on it' . We were promised 2 weeks ago delivery by 15tj dec but now they are saying we will get in January because if the expected snow this week!!! We have asked for a refund on the chair but they just ignore us. Got a real bad feeling about this!

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right, trading standards are next please everybody contact them interdependently and lets see what we can do,

i know the company originally are owned by ELS or ELS holdings and could be possibly linked to leather lords.

only thing i can suggest is to go down there and demand you rights. i hate been hoodwinked and feelign someone is

pulling the wool over my eyes . ACTION.

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irrate customer please look at your private messages.

 

are you local to droitwich at all??

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