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    • Yes, I did write before I offered to accept £1775 without prejudice,   I'm presuming I can withdraw the offer of settlement if he does not agree to be let off so lightly,     see further up for my correspondence today from TS, not only had he commuted a crime by omitting required pre contract information,  the dealer told me in an earlier email he had no idea of the legislation etc.   I pretty much answered that it wasn't my problem he didn't know, and as a trader he should be well aware of any and all legislation.    Pretty fed up with the whole situation at the moment to be honest, I can pm the email received by the trader for more insight of what I'm dealing with.
    • Aton - I see you've reacted to my post.  Note I've edited it since you read it.  I added the bit in asterisks about reasonable timescale.  Like I say don't just rely on me - see what others say too
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    • So it's cost you 1850 + 361 = £2211   Yes - he's getting off lightly with 1775  and he wants to knock you back to 1700?   Unless you are happy to accept 1700 to make it go away, I think I'd go back to him, remind him that it's cost you over £2200 and that Trading standards in Scotland agree you have a valid case.  Tell him you are doing him a favour by offering to settle for 1775, and that if he doesn't except it within the next (I don't know - 48 hours? - by midnight saturday?*) you'll withdraw that offer and it goes up to £1850.  If he doesn't accept that you'll withdraw that offer too and go to ADR for the full £2200 that he's cost you.   If he argues that it was your decision to incur the £361 transport costs, remind him that you only had to do that because his quoted delivery costs were extortionately high, and that he could have avoided all of this by giving you the necessary pre-contract information in the first place, as required by law.   That's what I'd now do - but it's easy for me to say because it's your money not mine!  Wait and see what dx100uk and any others suggest.  If I were you, I certainly wouldn't do the above just on my advice.  In particular, I'm not sure how risky going to ADR is from your point of view, but I assume you're sort of committed to that now as you've offered it, and he accepted ADR I think?  (And if it does get to ADR it might be helpful to know if you are allowed to indicate during that process that his potential criminal offences have been reported to TS.  I don't know if you'd be allowed to do that or not.)   The dealer does seem to have given away quite a bit of ground, but at the end of the day you may be happy with £1700 just to get over it and move on, and may not want to push him any further.   Don't just rely on me.  See what others think.   *I've no idea of appropriate timescales.  48 hrs?  72?  five days?  A week?   But if you make this threat - you have to carry it through...
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I just received a PCN notice in the post.

 

I bought the car on the 14th of June 2010 although the V5 owners docs say I've owned the car since 12/06/2010. The seller filled in the docs and sent back to DVLA, I don't know whether they put the wrong date on accidental or deliberate (I just noticed the date the now).

 

Well basically I've got a parking ticket that was issued at a time I didn't own the car, I've never even been to the street that's listed on the PCN.

 

Is there any way around this?

 

Any advice is appreciated.

Have £20k+ in debt, seriously want to be debt free, currently in temporary accomodation and having business problems.

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I just realised this is in the wrong section, can someone please move to the right section.

 

I do apologise :oops:

Have £20k+ in debt, seriously want to be debt free, currently in temporary accomodation and having business problems.

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Do you have a receipt or other documentary proof of the date you bought the car? How did you pay for it?

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Hi and thanks for the reply.

 

I paid cash for the car with a deposit by Paypal.

 

I don't have a receipt but do have print outs of emails between me and the guy that I bought the car from to discuss delivery of the car to me on the 14th but none of the emails have the reg no on them or sellers details, only details relating to the car in the emails are the year, make and model.

 

I should have mentioned in the first post that the PCN issue date was the 12/06/2010

 

I don't even have an address for the person I bought the car from, all I have is the address of the previous registered keeper but I'm having my doubts there the same person.

Have £20k+ in debt, seriously want to be debt free, currently in temporary accomodation and having business problems.

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Have you tried writing to the DVLA to get the V5 corrected?

Can you confirm who issued the PCN? In particular was it a council or is it private?

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The PCN was issued by the council.

 

I'm going to write a letter the now to the DVLA to inform them of the wrong date, but what's the chance of it being amended before the 28 days are up?

 

A friend has said I should just put previous owners address in the details of representation bit, only problem with that though is that I'm not 100% sure they were the person I bought the car off.

Have £20k+ in debt, seriously want to be debt free, currently in temporary accomodation and having business problems.

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I bought the car on the 14th of June 2010 although the V5 owners docs say I've owned the car since 12/06/2010.

 

The V5 doesn't concern itself with ownership in any way shape or form.

 

It is concerned with recording the registered KEEPER (who may or may not be the owner)

 

 

In your case, I would return the PCN stating that you were not the owner at the time concerned and name the previous RK. If the Council wishes tp pursue, the burden of proof is on them to prove that you were the owner at the time.

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The V5 doesn't concern itself with ownership in any way shape or form.

 

It is concerned with recording the registered KEEPER (who may or may not be the owner)

 

 

In your case, I would return the PCN stating that you were not the owner at the time concerned and name the previous RK. If the Council wishes tp pursue, the burden of proof is on them to prove that you were the owner at the time.

 

Be careful as under the law for PCNs the owner is presumed to be the keeper. It is a rebuttable presumption but the burden to prove otherwise is on the motorist not the council.

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You would have signed and dated the section of the V5C committing yourself to be keeper from that date - can you recall whether your actually dated it correctly, or whether it was amended by the seller? It is not recommended to buy cars privately if the seller isn't the RK as it often can lead to problems....

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