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Yes, await the Directions Questionnaire from the court. No, the Directions Questionnaire is just a short form and leads to the case being transferred from MCOL/CCBC to your local court. If you Google "Form N180" you can see a blank copy on government web pages. -
There will only be one hearing (typo possibly 25th is a Saturday Courts closed ) clarify with the court. -
Upload a redacted copy of their statement (+ Exhibits) please.
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By Badtimes123 · Posted
No Andy, I'll scan, redact and upload later today. So the court sent me 2 letters, same envelope and stapled together but with different dates!. 1. N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, stating: UPON considering the papers herein IT IS ORDERED THAT The claim is listed for an attended hearing 25 May....... at which court will consider allocation.. etc 2. N24 Notice of PTR/Adjnd/Restored/Hrg/Management conference TAKE NOTICE that the hearing will take place on 24 May at....... When you should attend 30 minutes has been allowed for the Hearing No other instructions anywhere in the envelope or on the letters. Do I attend both?
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The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.
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