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London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham's

eager attendant issued a pcn on 26 April 2009

- a Sunday when i was parked in metered zone

- outside of parking restrictions.

 

 

The parking restritions were Mon - Sat.

 

 

i parked on a sunday.

but I received a parking ticket anyway.

 

 

Due to various personal problems i forgot about the PCN

but wrote to LBHF some time later and explained that it was a sunday

and the parking restrictions were not enforced then.

I did not hear from them and then forgot about the ticket until

 

 

i got a note (shoved through my letter box) by a bailiff demanding £ 535.

I phoned LBHF parking office and spoke with an official in the parking office

- who confirmed that Sunday restrictions were to be encforced on 14 Dec 2009 on the road in question.

He then confirmed that i was parked legally.

 

 

When i asked him to cancel the ticket - he said he could not as much time had passed

and the case had progressed and i had to deal with the bailiff.

 

 

He said i could quote his name and the conversation.

He said that the conversation was taped anyway.

 

Then i had a call from the bailiff on my mobile

- i do not know how he got my mobile number

- who asked me to pay the full £535

or he will come to my house and take things.

 

i can handle the bailiff to a certain extent as i will simply not answer the door when he comes.

 

i hv written to my local MP and submitted an official complaint to LBHF.

 

I contacted Traffic Enforcement Centre to see if they can help.

They said i can submit a statutory Satement Out of time,

but i needed to qualify to 4 "preset" conditions in TE9 and TE 7 forms.

- and i do not know if my situation qualifies.

 

Can any one advise me on the regulations relating to PCN's issued incorrectly?

What can I do now?

my personal opinion is to serve a writ to LBHF for

a. issuing a PCN incorrectly

b. subsequently trying to extort money using bully tactics and bailiffs

c. committing Fraud

 

can some one pl advise.

 

By the way

- if you think about howmany tickets these guys issued "incorrectly"

that were paid by people who just could not stomach a fight

- thats an awful lot of income for these councils.

 

all the best - BF

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legally parked but Parking ticket issued anyway

 

 

London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham's eager attendant issued a pcn
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on 26 April 2009 - a Sunday when i was parked in metered zone - outside of parking restrictions. The parking restritions were Mon - Sat. i parked on a sunday. but I received a parking ticket anyway. Due to various personal problems i forgot about the PCN but wrote to LBHF some time later and explained that it was a sunday and the parking restrictions were not enforced then. I did not hear from them and then forgot about the ticket until i got a note (shoved through my letter box) by a bailiff
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demanding £ 535. I phoned LBHF parking office and spoke with an official in the parking office - who confirmed that Sunday restrictions were to be encforced on 14 Dec 2009 on the road in question.
He then confirmed that i was parked legally
. When i asked him to cancel the ticket - he said he could not as much time had passsed and the case had progressed and i had to deal with the bailiff. He said i could quote his name and the conversation. He said that the conversation was taped anyway.

 

Then i had a call from the bailiff on my mobile - i do not know how he got my mobile number - who asked me to pay the full £535 or he will come to my house and take things.

 

i can handle the bailiff to a certain extent as i will simply not answer the door when he comes.

 

i hv written to my local MP and submitted an official complaint to LBHF.

 

I contacted Traffic Enforcement Centre to see if they can help. They said i can submit a statutory Satement Out of time, but i needed to qualify to 4 "preset" conditions in TE9 and TE 7 forms.

- and i do not know if my situation qualifies.

 

Can any one advise me on the regulations relating to PCN's issued incorrectly?

What can I do now?

my personal opinion is to serve a writ to LBHF for

a. issuing a PCN incorrectly

b. subsequently trying to extort money using bully tactics and bailiffs
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c. committing Fraud

 

can some one pl advise.

 

By the way - if you think about howmany tickets these guys issued "incorrectly" that were paid by people who just could not stomach a fight - thats an awful lot of income for these councils.

 

all the best - BF

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legally parked but Parking ticket issued anyway

 

 

Can any one advise me on the regulations relating to PCN's issued incorrectly?

What can I do now?

my personal opinion is to serve a writ to LBHF for

a. issuing a PCN incorrectly

b. subsequently trying to extort money using bully tactics and bailiffs
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c. committing Fraud

 

 

 

 

 

I like your personal opinion.

 

I am sure a traffic 'oracle' will post with relavent info for you soon.

 

 

:)

 

 

dk

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You can try and file an Out of Time statutory Declaration. You can file it on the grounds that you made representations (ie your appeal letter) and did not receive a response.

 

However, because it is out of time, the council could refuse to accept it. You will have to provide a good reason as to why it was not filed in time, and you may struggle to do so (I don't know your circumstances). If there's a good reason, then attach some proof with your forms - eg if you were ill, a medical note or somesuch.

 

If they accept it, you're back where you started with a straight PCN which you can challenge. If not, post back here - you would have one more route left - N244.

 

It might be worth speaking to someone at the council who deals with bailiff cases (they probably have a dedicated team) and try and get them to understand and agree to put things on hold. Be as friendly to that person as you can!! They will deal with the case and have the power to call off the bailiffs, once your forms are through.

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Thanks for fast response.

 

Well Dragonkeeper, I've written to LBHF stating exactly that!

I've also written to my local MP and was really surpirsed to receive a reply from his assistance pretty much stratightaway. I am told that they will write to LBHF and get back to me.

 

Hi Jamberson - i understand that i cannot use N244 here. regarding Out of time Statutory statement - i am not sure if i qualify the four criteria they set.

thats the problem. i did make representations and did not get their response - but i found their email response much later in my outlook. which prompted me to write to them.but i see what you are saying. OK - i'll do that tonight and send it in to Traffic Enforcement Centre

 

thanks so much for yr fast replies

 

warm regards/BF

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If they only replied to your letter by email, it is pretty much fine to assert you didn't receive their reply. Anyone could have read it and deleted it. They are required to reply by post (as least they were - unless it's changed of late).

 

So, I say go ahead and file one on that basis. See what happens. N244 becomes a possibility if they reject your applications, but hopefully they won't - up to them, sadly!

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