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    • Firstly, you don't need to worry about the so-called "six-month rule". The consumer rights act simply complements the existing law contract. It adds to it, it clarifies it – but it doesn't take anything away from it. Not only that, even within the consumer rights act, the most important provision is that the goods you buy are of satisfactory quality and that they conform to their description. If you have bought a vehicle expecting it to be low mileage – only 17,000 and in fact the mileage turns out to be double – 34,000, then I would say that it is not of satisfactory quality. Also, it doesn't conform to its description. It is impossible that this vehicle could be repaired in order to return it to its expected satisfactory condition because you can't undo the mileage don't wear and tear. Furthermore it doesn't conform to its description and nobody will be able to undo that either. On that basis it seems to me that this is what is known as a fundamental breach of contract – which is a breach so serious that it essentially undermines the purpose of the contract – and it amounts to a termination by the seller and it is up to you the innocent party to accept the termination and to consider that the contract is at an end. This then gives you the right to recover all of the losses which you have reasonably incurred as a result of the seller's breach of contract. You have bought this vehicle using finance – and I'm assuming that it is alone and under section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act, the finance company are fully liable to you in exactly the same way that the supplier is liable. In other words, their financial liability to you are mirror images of each other. You say that you are in "the process" of rejecting the car. I don't understand what process there is. You simply write to the supplier – copy it to the finance company – and tell them that the contract is at an end because they have breached it in a very serious way and you want to know what arrangements are being made for returning the car. I think that you should also point out that in the interim period you will be without a vehicle and that it would be in their interests to provide you with a loan vehicle until such time as you can source a replacement. Frankly, if you trust the supplier – and if the supplier behaves in a responsible way, this may be the time to negotiate a new vehicle from the supplier – and no doubt this time they will be far more careful about what they supply you. I think it will be worth pointing out to the supplier that if he will not provide you with a reasonable loan vehicle that you will incur costs in respect of a hire vehicle or some other arrangement and that you will look to them to reimburse you all of these expenses. Once again, you should send a copy of this to the finance company. Separately you should write directly to the finance company and put them on notice as well that the finance agreement is at an end because of the fundamental breach of their client. Because they are a finance company, don't expect them to be especially cooperative so I would tell them immediately that if there is any hint of a lack of cooperation that you will begin an immediate complaint to the FOS – but you may decide to proceed direct to a county court if you feel you have to. Have you contacted anybody about this? We could all be jumping the gun because maybe you haven't even brought it to the attention of the dealer and you don't know what the dealer's attitude is. In all letters, make sure that you copy the letters to the garage to the finance company and those to the finance company copy to the garage – so everybody knows the extent of the trouble you are making about this. Finally, why haven't you told us the name of the garage? Are you trying to protect them? What is the name of the finance company? Are you trying to protect them?
    • I have also read a few threads on CAG and also MSE and there is one conflic of opnions which does worry me a little which is the ignore or appeal...   Ignore until they get to a stage where I have to respond or appeal and not let any claim forms come throug the post and cause unnecesarry stress as my wife is the RK of the car.   I trust your judgement on here as your advice has always been clear and confident but i thoguht I would still ask at what point is ignoring these both, going to do us harm with a CCJ or something?   Thanks again   Gee
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Just a question regarding these PPCs. The advise on these forums is very good for those of use that search but a lot of people dont they just pay up. Would there be an issue with putting flyers on peoples cars?

Ive just been to my local Sainsburys and the Euro Car Parks man was ticketing again. i put a couple of notes on the cars he had ticketed telling the owners to check the internet before they pay anything. i hope that they trakle my advice and at least have a look. Where would i legally stand if i produced a flyer that i could put on cars that have been ticketed? I would like to give the crooks a bit of a hard time and watch them disapear back to the hole they came from.

 

Any ideas would be good

 

Ta

Stu

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No law against advertising an internet forum. Get leafleting!

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Think i might knock somthign together, ill have to be carefull about the wording though. Ill point them here if thats ok?

 

It about time we stook up against these crooks and the Huge companys that hire them to ticket the shoppers of their stores.

 

Raaaa

 

Stu

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Of course, if you do put flyers on cars in a supermarket car-park, it's no different from somebody leaving leaflets advertising the local pizza-parlour.

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3 points to bear in mind:

 

1 - You can get in trouble for damage to the cars/windcsreen wipers.

2 - You can get in trouble for littering.

2 - Because the leaflet would actually be advertising CAG, they're the ones who could be held responsible.

 

Sorry for the negativity, but I experienced this 1st hand when I was leading a team of leafleters and we decided it would be a good idea. My DEAR, the complaints!!! :rolleyes:

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3 points to bear in mind:

 

1 - You can get in trouble for damage to the cars/windcsreen wipers.

2 - You can get in trouble for littering.

2 - Because the leaflet would actually be advertising CAG, they're the ones who could be held responsible.

 

Sorry for the negativity, but I experienced this 1st hand when I was leading a team of leafleters and we decided it would be a good idea. My DEAR, the complaints!!! :rolleyes:

 

your post isnt negative its the reason i asked the question. I need to understabnd how to do this without causing a problem for me or any site on the net. It may be better to point people towards just doing a google search on certain key words.

 

I will only be putting these flyers on cars that have been ticketed. i use the car park lots so see the Euro Man most days.

 

Cheers Stuart

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I LIKE that idea. :-D :-D :-D

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put the leaflet inside the envelope containing the invoice.

I have left notes like this in a few car parks.

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You dont have to specifically mention CAG, you could tell them to search for specific phrases in order to educate them about PPCs

Finger not pointed at anyone in general then :)

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You need only put on the leaflets something along the following lines.

 

"For advice on challenging this parking ticket go to

CAG

PEPPIPOO

MONEYSAVING EXPERT"

 

Giving links for the above 3 sites. If the supermarket objected to thease leaflets they have 3 sites to complain to.

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'Challenging' and the term 'parking ticket' gives far to much credence in my view.

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'Challenging' and the term 'parking ticket' gives far to much credence in my view.

 

You have to remember that many motorist have no experience of the validity of PPC tickets and should be led gently to sites such as this.

 

In my view if you put a leaflet on their car saying "this is not a fine", "you don't hve to pay this" and "this ticket is unenforceable", you are overloading them with information, which is not only counter-productive, but would lead to the PPC and supermarket being pro-active in stopping you placing the leaflets.

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I get your point.

 

Maybe "Watchdog advises ignoring private parking invoices such as this.

 

For more information, Google:

CAG

PEPPIPOO

MONEYSAVING EXPERT"

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How about not using the words "fine" or "ticket" at all?

 

Something like:

 

DO NOT PAY

For help Google:

 

CAG

Peppipoo

MoneySaving Expert

 

After seeing the parking "ticket", most people will first be shocked/annoyed. After a short while, their attention will turn to trying to avoid paying the charge.

 

Their curiosity and the flier will do the rest.


Warning: Freemen of the Land Operate here. Think twice before accepting 'legal advice'.

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I have done flyers where I live, talk to people but they still wont park because they are too scared to. Afriend of mine who works for an insurance company told me I should pay my "fine" (her term) as these company's rarely lose a case. Too many of the public are just totally gullible

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name the insurance company. who wants insurance from fools ?

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name the insurance company. who wants insurance from fools ?

Bound to be the one I am with.

regards


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name the insurance company. who wants insurance from fools ?

 

Clue 1 : Red Telephone

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My guess : They don't use price comparison sites? :)

 

is there a prize?

 

Do I win? Do I win? :p

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My guess : They don't use price comparison sites? :)

 

is there a prize?

 

Do I win? Do I win? :p

 

Yes Crem, you have won a scamvoice, please pay £75 within 14 days or it will rise to £24,000,000,000,000.53 excluding solicitor cost, passing paper between desk costs, you may be subject to a deluge of waste paper if you dont pay now

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What would an insurance company know about PPCs?

 

The friend is probably right though... PPCs hardly ever loose a case. In the same way that my Nan has never lost a case, because she has never taken anyone to court! :p


Warning: Freemen of the Land Operate here. Think twice before accepting 'legal advice'.

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:Cry:

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they should know plenty about contracts. their business is based on them.

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With respect, our bod down at Direct Line might just be the receptionist.

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a receptionist - in an on-line business. odds are against it.

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