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    • Hi All, before I start I know there are similar threads of the topic I am raising, and each, of course, has its own unique scenario, which may benefit others. My case is as follows: 1. I saw a gumtree ad on the 16th of Oct 2020 for a Mercedes E220 CDI, priced at 7,500 2. I called the seller and said I will come over on the 17th of Oct 2020 to view. 3. On the 17th of Oct 2020 I went to his place where he is working and viewed the car. He is working for a major car rental company. I checked the car and of course asked the normal things to ask e.g. any insurance write-offs, loans, accidents, etc. The seller said the car is clean etc.no loan, he had a loan but all is paid off etc. and he has the papers. 4. I negotiated the car price to 6,800 because the rims were showing some signs of damage, the rear light had a small burst, cosmetics, etc. I checked all but did not see any sign of damage to the car (it's a black car, the car was a bit dirty, and the sun was already setting in) 5. We agreed on 6,800 and decided to purchase the car. We went into his office, where I paid cash, and also got a Car Sales Invoice with all details of the seller, and a V5C green slip 6. I purchased car insurance and drove off. I asked him about Road Tax and he said Road tax is paid so I have not to worry, just need car insurance. 7. On 18th of Oct 2020 I cleaned the car interior because it was really dirty inside - it took me a few hours so decided to clean the exterior the next day 8. On the 19th of Oct 2020 I went to clean the exterior and after the car was clean I noticed some parts were resprayed. I became a bit suspicious; so on the 19th of Oct 2020 in the eve, I went on the internet and run an HPI check. The outcome from the HPI did not show any accidents, insurance write-off but an outstanding Loan with Moneybarn. At this point, I thought maybe the database is not updated, etc. 9. On the 20th of Oct 2020, morning, things were going through my mind; the seller said the car is clean, no issues, no loan since he settled all etc. but the HPI reports say there is still some outstanding loan. So what I did, I called Moneybarn, and explained the situation, and gave them the contract number as well (since it was displayed on the HPI report). They said they will send me a form by email, but they cannot share any information due to Data Protection (GDPR). fair enough I thought, but what made me boil, they said they OWN the car! So, I took the car and drove to the seller where he is working. I confronted him. He said don't worry, I will handle it, he has no time, he is very busy and bla bla bla. I said what reasons do I have to trust you, you lied, and now you say you still have a debt, etc. So I said I will not leave until he has settled the debt, or repay me my money. I also asked what is outstanding, he said around 7,000. Well, since I confronted him at his workplace he may have felt the heat, he assured he will settle all soon, I said sorry, I need a date, so I said you will settle the debt with Moneybarn by 23 Oct 2020, if not, you will refund me my money. He said Ok he will do it, so I said, since I don't trust you, you will sign a piece of paper, and sign it. On the paper, he wrote "I will clear the debt for the Mercedes by Friday" and signed it. I said I am not happy and added the debt details with contract number, and also a clause that if he fails to settle the debt with Moneybarn by Friday the 23rd of Oct 2020, he will refund me my money, 6,800, and sales of the car Mercedes, license plate, will be void. Also, I said to put an initial on each amendment I made with signature. He did, and I left. 10. On 22 Oct I sent him a message, to remind him to settle the debt by Friday 23 Oct 2020 noontime and also I outlined some legal jargon I had to sent that I received from citizensadvice. 11. On 23 Oct, morning time, I received a message from the seller, he said he will not/cannot refund me the money, not to visit him at his office or place, and that he feels threatened by me. 12. Now, the dilemma/headache; a). I received the form from Moneybarn on the 20th of Oct 2020 and I have to send it back within 7 days b). the seller send me a message he will not refund the money c). is the seller holding the title with Moneybarn or did he also buy and not knowing there is an outstanding loan on it d). did he sent the V5C to DVLA since I have the green slip? e). Shall I fill in the form and sent it to Moneybarn? f). If Moneybarn has all my details they may send someone to repossess the car? 13. I decided, I will not undertake anything yet, because my mind said, go there, confront him, park the car in front of the company since I purchased it there and signed all paperwork in their office, they will call the police, the police will come and surely will not do anything but will force me to remove the car and park somewhere else, record all on camera, take all evidence, sent to Moneybarn and at the same time to the seller's employer (when I asked him to sign a letter he will settle the debt by Friday 23rd of Oct 2020, he used a paper of the car rental company, and on the back, the logo of the rental company is displayed clearly and he may have acted on behalf of the company to sell me the car, after all, I don't know if he holds the title with Moneybarn - well, this is an excuse for me to even sue the car rental company, or blacklist him with the company he is working for since it seems he is some type of manager there and he may have acted in the capacity as a sales person to sell the car to me on behalf the company....). 14. So on the 23rd of Oct 2020, I didn't do anything like described under 13....it's not my style as such I called AWH solicitors, explained all, and they said one person is specialized in dealing with such cases and will call me back after studying my case and inform me if it is something they can fight or not. So they will call me Monday the 26th of Oct 2020. I also said I want to go now and confront the seller, but she said better wait till Monday, and if they can fight the case, they will tell me the next course of action - but my funds are limited and cannot afford a lengthy battle, because if no case against Moneybarn means I will have to sue the seller to the court which will cost me. The car has comprehensive insurance and with all this saga I added on the 20th of Oct 2020 also legal insurance on top. Lengthy story, but I am trying to be as detailed as I can, and yes I should have done an HPI before buying the car, but I am from Holland and car sales work there a bit different, and this is my first time I buy from a private seller. Well, once I have sent the form to Moneybarn, I will park the car in a garage, and at this stage, I am renting a room in a house (there is one more tenant). Since I am from Holland, I am planning a trip within 2 weeks to visit my family and I will drive down with the car and in the meanwhile wait if the solicitor can be of any help. I need some advice though, I am still planning to drive down to the seller on Tuesday after I talked with the solicitor, park the car in front of the company, and confront the seller, and try to record all. I will also try to make him sign a letter that I purchased the car in good faith from him (regardless if he holds the title with Moneybarn or not but at least I purchased in good faith from him). Evidence that I have: 1. Car sales invoice 2. Paper that I made him sign 3. Gumtree ad; I could retract this from google history, but the original add removed from gumtree. At least I can show it was advertised 4. I tried to create a history of past owners, total owners including me are 5. It seems the car was also posted on gumtree before by a company in Essex (I saw on google). The reason for doing this, it is very likely that the seller purchased the car from someone else with an outstanding loan. Since then I read a lot on the internet, so please any advice is welcome to pursue my case, I paid a lot and at least I want my money back. Also what I read so far, Moneybarn is not easy to deal with...thanks in advance for any advice I can use for my case.
    • Hi   I think you need to check not just the serial number but what Meter Point Reference Number (MPRN) as the MPRN is what is registered and energy supplier go off as well as the serial number.   So you need to see what the MPRN is as well as the energy supplier it is registered with.   If you look at this Ofgem link: https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/consumers/household-gas-and-electricity-guide/connections-and-moving-home/who-my-gas-or-electricity-supplier   In the above link to do this check it gives a link to:   Find My Supplier: https://www.findmysupplier.energy/webapp/index.html (note you may have to complete a captcha, then input your postcode only and click find my address, when the list comes up click on your exact address, you will then see you actual MPRN and the energy supplier linked to your address)   With the above make sure and take the details of the MPRN and the Energy Supplier, better still take a screenshot/pdf the webpage.   Please let use know if on doing the above it matches your current supplier?  
    • I had exactly the same issues.   Grossly over estimated bills from January onwards.  Despite what they claim, they are effectively taking an interest free loan from their customer base to keep the company in business.   They can dress it up how they like.  It’s irrelevant if they reconcile the bills the following month because they just over bill again thus keeping a rolling interest free loan.   it took two months of constant badgering to be finally moved to a fixed DD.   Once that was done I didn’t care how much they over-estimated by.   I had raised a query with the ombudsman over the billing fiasco and they readied a complaint should I wish to proceed.   I thought everything was sorted until May/June whereby I was allegedly more in debt then I was expecting to the tune of an extra months DD.   On querying it, it transpired that even though I was on a fixed monthly DD, because the bill was generated less than 5 days before the DD was due to be taken they didn’t take the DD.   They offered £5 compensation by way of apology but wanted to take two months DD in June.  I told them where to get off.   With appalling customer service,  bills that you need a Maths degree to follow, and I do have one and still struggled, inability to follow through on any agreements, constant gross over-estimation, the missed DD was the final straw and I proceeded with complaint to ombudsman.   Prior to getting to that stage I had to quote Symbio’s own complaints procedure to them to get any sort of response.   Their final offer to me was £25 goodwill and to waive an exit fee. The offer was derisory given the time it had taken to get things sorted and the continuing ineptitude.  Also, the whole thing has dragged on so long (5 months) I was already in the final 49 days of my contract and therefore there were no exit fees to pay and therefore nothing to waive.   Anyway, upshot is, ombudsman found in my favour.  Ordered an apology and a goodwill payment. Symbio appealed but were told the decision stood.   This week I received the goodwill payment.   I promptly left an honest and truthful review on trustpilot.   The next morning I received an email from Symbio with an apology.   This was followed an hour later with an email from trustpilot saying Symbio had replied to the review.  On reading the response they have accused me of not following procedure and of cyber bullying.   The company is a complete joke.
    • why not simply tell you supplier they have the wrong meter number you been paying for usage , and ofcourse you can view this online too so its not as if you'll owe anything you might get a nice surprise and find you are owed a refund.
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Some of you may already know but I work as a Duty Manager for one of the Argos Stores.

 

As such I am happy to offer an unbiased advise and help on Argos problems you may have. (Regardless of company I will always make sure people get their full legal rights).

 

Please note I can't with Argos Card advise, its a little out of my remit, sorry!

 

Feel free to send me a PM if you do want me to look at anything.

 

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Blitz thanks for this.

As you may have seen elsewhere on the site,we encourage company representitives to help resolve members problems.We do however expect progress to be updated and posted openly on this site.

Maybe you can get authorisation from Argos to continue to assist here and we can make your presence officially recognised with more prominence.

Have a happy and prosperous 2013 by avoiiding Payday loans. If you are sent a private message directing you for advice or support with your issues to another website,this is your choice.Before you decide,consider the users here who have already offered help and support.

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Sorry to make it clear, I work for Argos but am in no way a representative. I am happy to offer advise and help in that capacity to ensure you obtain your legal rights as a consumer. (Something I believe everyone is entitled too).

 

I can offer advise on policies however have never, nor will never provide company sensitive information. I am on this site to help, and help everyone not just Argos problems. (I just happen to work their so as its my area of expertise am happy to take a look at anything in a unbiased way)

 

Anything I say is my own opinion and in no way am I a representative of Argos Ltd, Home Retail Group plc or any of its companies. No terms are created, nor liability accepted by myself or the for-mentioned companies for any personal advice I provide in my posts.

Ex-Retail Manager who is happy to offer helpful advise in many consumer problems based on my retail experience. Any advise I do offer is my opinion and how I understand the law.

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Hi

 

Just a quick question... ive recently bought a cheap lcd tv from Argos, using cash, the item is unopened and i would now like to exchange the tv for a larger tv and pay the difference, only problem is i have misplaced the receipt and cannot remember when exactley i bought the tv !

 

What are the chances of argos accepting the tv back for an exchange ?

 

Any help greatly appreciated, thanks.

The retailers worst nightmare !

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If it still within the 30 days you will be able to take it back to the store you purchased it from, if you let them know the date you purchased it from (If you can't remember things like large withdrawals from banks, getting paid etc help to remember), they will be able to exchange it provided it is unused, in the original undamaged packing.

 

If you can't remember the date, or its over 30 days it will be down to the manager, if you inform the advisor as you take it back you wish to exchange for a more expensive model it helps a little in getting that exhange.

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...I am happy to offer an unbiased advise and help on Argos problems you may have.

Hi there,

 

I don't know if you can help with this one as it's an eBay purchase from Argos Clearance, operating from Weldon South Ind Est, Northamptonshire.

 

Back in May I ordered a Wharfedale MP3 player with FM tuner on eBay, it cost me £11.38. The photo showed the player with radio, but what arrived was only a player. I chcked hte item further and found that Argos have the same item, with and without radio, under the same part number - 5135846 !

 

I got in touch, they said to return it. I did, but then heard nothing, so lodged a dispute with PayPal. Initially they said they would uphold that and asked that I return the item and give a tracking number, but it had already gone back weeks before that.

 

So, PayPal then changed their mind and said to take up the dispute with the seller directly, but Argos never answer messages I send.

 

Not only have I lost the original £11.38, but a further £1.11 sending the item back, and I have nothing to show for it, not even the duff item.

 

It seems that they are happy to ignore me as they claim I've no proof of sending the item back, and I wasn't asked to send it tracked, never even thought about it at the time.

 

I hate being ripped off...

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I can't really help with Argos Clearance Bargains items, I would advise putting everything in writing and sending it to Argos Customer Services and see if they can help.

Ex-Retail Manager who is happy to offer helpful advise in many consumer problems based on my retail experience. Any advise I do offer is my opinion and how I understand the law.

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argos repair agents d and g henry stating they will not repair my netbook under warranty as i have dropped it. BUT I HAVE NOT. i just want a repair or replacement for an item that has quite literally fallen apart throughout the time i hav had it. (January 10 !) hinges fallen off wires exposed all one side come apart. they tellin me now I HAVE to pay independent engineer to get a separate report. I am so angry as this was a present and its not my fault the item is faulty. but they are making me out to be a liar basically. they say i have dropped it when i know for a fact that i have never done so. help

:oops:customer is alwaze rite...... :p:confused:
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hi ive placed an order via argos website for bunk bed at the end of sept this year.they debited my account for the full amount and told me delivery would be november. items did not turn up so i rang was then told it would be 5 december, i have still not received the item and have had no contact from agros. could you please advise what i could do as they have had my money for 2 months now. many thanks lorraine

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Hi All.

 

Like blitz i am a Argos Colleague who is happy to help with any queries anyone has.

 

I just want to make it clear that anything I say is my own opinion and in no way am I a representative of Argos Ltd, Home Retail Group plc or any of its companies. No terms are created, nor liability accepted by myself or the for-mentioned companies for any personal advice I provide in my posts.

 

I will be posting reply's to all the above issues shortly.

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Hi welsh lady,

 

Firstly on behalf or argos I would like to apologise for the situation you have found yourself in. I can understand that goods are purchased for an intention to recieve them for that purpose asap.

 

Now there a a couple of options for you....

 

1. You are fully entitled to a full refund including the delivery charge if you are not happy with what you have been informed.

2. If the goods are over what we call ' Lead time ' ie. it will be with you in 28 days and takes 42 you can ask the agent you speak with for a GW gesture for this delay, they may at first offer you back the delivery charge which is standard company policy, but then may advise that a further gesture can be looked into after the goods have been delivered and you are happy with them. Meaning Gift vouchers my be offered. BUT THIS WILL ONLY BE DISCUSSED WHEN THE ORDER IS COMPLETE NO AMOUNTS CAN BE DUSCUSSED UNTILL THEN!!!!!!

3. Or if you want to you can look into an alterntive product, one of the same value, which they will exchange for you. PLEASE ADVISE THAT IF THE ALTERNATIVE PRODUCT YOU HAVE CHOSEN WILL BE MORE THAN YOU PAID ORIGINALLY, THE DIFFERENCE WILL HAVE TO BE MET!!!

 

You can call the customer services on 0845 640 3030 with the order no. and the named customer on that order must be present to discuss the following options.

 

 

Hope this helps

 

 

I just want to make it clear that anything I say is my own opinion and in no way am I a representative of Argos Ltd, Home Retail Group plc or any of its companies. No terms are created, nor liability accepted by myself or the for-mentioned companies for any personal advice I provide in my posts

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Hi, again i apologise on behalf or argos ltd for the situation you have found yourself in.

 

Now with argos clearance bargains its a different story if they hve been delivered faulty, etc. Now you can locate a number off the ebay site for argos clearance bargains or you can call the argos customer services for the number.

 

Argos clearance bargains orders do have to go through them if there are any issues at all. We at argos can only locate orders that have been purchased for home delivery through the argos.co.uk website, via the phone or instore for home delivery.

 

I understand that this may not be best practise, but this will be the quickest way to resolve the issue.

 

May i ask what address you returned it to, or did a carrier company collect the goods???

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Hi, again apologise for the issues you are having with the netbook purchased in January 2010. Now if the goods have been sent away already to D&G Henry and it comes back as not manufacturing liability, then you may have to look into an independent report to confirm the issue.

 

We ask of this as we have to take into account that the tech that looked into your case is a professional within that area and would have conducted a fair and non-biased report on what he felt was the issues and the causes of that.

 

Now yes at first you will have to pay for the independent report, these can average around £25 plus. This report then gets a second op on the goods and then can confirm the issues that you have identified are a manufacturing defect.

 

Now after that report have been optained, you will have to show us it so we can see the details of the report. If the goods were home delivered you can call the customer services to get the correspondance address for which the report will have to be sent into, along with a cover note and your order no.

But if they were purchased instore you can just take the report into the store for which the store manager may have to look at to confirm.

 

If found to be a manufacturing defect off the independent report that you have obtained options will then be discussed with you.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

I just want to make it clear that anything I say is my own opinion and in no way am I a representative of Argos Ltd, Home Retail Group plc or any of its companies. No terms are created, nor liability accepted by myself or the for-mentioned companies for any personal advice I provide in my posts

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Blitz has not been here for some time,whilst I can see that Ic1989 has remained answering CAG members.

Its very much appreciated.

To be fair,Argos is a very good company and for the most part quick to resolve issues if you take faulty goods or unwanted goods back to the store.

I have recently had to do this myself with something,and could not fault the way and speed in which it was dealt with.

If only others took a leaf out of their book.

Have a happy and prosperous 2013 by avoiiding Payday loans. If you are sent a private message directing you for advice or support with your issues to another website,this is your choice.Before you decide,consider the users here who have already offered help and support.

Advice offered by Martin3030 is not supported by any legal training or qualification.Members are advised to use the services of fully insured legal professionals when needed.

 

 

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I have also never had a problem with Argos returns although they have TWICE lost mobile phones that have been sent for repair. They did however issue a full refund. Bit careless but the outcome was better for the kids whose phone they were as they got new phones.

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Hi, Yesterday 17/08/11. I reserved a "Bath Board Seat" from Argos and made a 35 mile round trip on public transport to collect it from my nearest store.

The description of the item on both the Argos catalogue and website stated that it was 78CM in length. When I returned home with the item I assembled it and when I went to fit it onto the bath it was far too small and doesn't fit on my bath. I measured it and discovered it measures only 69CM and the assembly instructions inside the box state that it is 69 CM.

 

On closer inspection of the website and catalogue, the photos appear to be slightly different, although the catalogue numbers / specification etc. are all identical.

 

I emailed the Argos customer services asking if they would replace the 69CM bath board with a 78CM bath board seat as advertised. I got a reply apologising for the website info being wrong (no mention that the catalogue is also wrong) and thanking me for bringing this to their attention, saying they would update the website and issue a bulletin to the stores. They asked me to return the item, along with proof of purchase, including order number,receipt or credit/debit card statement to my local store, where the store staff would be able to assist me further. However, without any proof of purchase (I have proof of purchase), any action would be at the store managers discretion.

 

Now my query is, as I am partially disabled, I have no desire to repeat the bus journey or incur the expense required to return the item, am I within my rights to request that Argos collect the said item from me at my home address and refund the money electronically to my bank account from which the item was paid for?

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Argos may sell some stuff that is of inferior quality, but no issues with refunds or replacement which si why we continue to shop there. When we lost the receipt for one purchase I showed my bank statement and this was accepted as proof of purchase.

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I apologies for not being around, have been very busy but still happy to offer friendly help. I have now changed my email address so you can get my attention by sending me a PM and will try to respond as quickly as I can.

 

I do have more restrictions now placed upon me in what I can respond to, so anything I do say will be based purely on my knowledge of Argos without breeching the companies trust, and not as an employee or representative of Argos.

Ex-Retail Manager who is happy to offer helpful advise in many consumer problems based on my retail experience. Any advise I do offer is my opinion and how I understand the law.

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Hey,

I need some advice- I ordered a sofa middle of sept which argos were supposed to deliver 22nd Oct, this was then cancelled due to 'stock issues' and delivery was rearranged for mid nov. This again was cancelled and after complaining i was promised delivery on 15th dec and a gesture of goodwill which they cannot discuss until the sofa has been delivered.

Today the sofa was due 7-12 am and I get a call at 10am saying they can no longer deliver it- another day off work wasted!!!

They are unable to give me a new day for delivery now but should do in the next few days.

 

Will my sofa get priority now and how likely will it be delivered before christmas? I am going away on the 22nd and really want it by then. What kind of 'gestures of goodwill' do argos pay- I don't want vouchers or just delivery charge taken off. I want more like 50% plus reimbursements for phone calls made and time wasted!

 

From a v stressed and frustrated person! I can't believe I used to work for argos

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Hi, I apologise for the issues you have had with Argos home delivery. With regards to the issues you have identified I am sorry to advise that when entering contract with Argos you confirm your acceptance of the terms and conditions stating that all orders are due to stock availability. Now that I know in your situation isn't ideal but with regards to the failed relict did they advise of a reason for the fail? Secondly a gesture of goodwill will always be discussed once the goods ate delivered and you are happy with what we have delivered. This goodwill can either be a gift voucher or a goodwill as some money payment the amount though will be of the advisors discretion, you are best asking to speak to the managers to discuss this. For the time off and the phone bills to the contact centre you will be asked to send a copy of your loss of earning which you can retrieve from your hr department and sent to a correspondence address which again can be given to you by the managers this applies the same for the phone bills. This all again will be acted upon by the discression of the advisor dealing with your case. You are best speaking to the managers department to see if they have the information to when the stock may be available or when it is being transferred to the drop stocking your order. Looking at the information that has been given to you I advise this is provided to you by a manager rather than a frontline advisor as managers have more options to discuss. I would strongly recommend speaking with them if you are able to call in again. Please be aware these are my own opinions and do not reflect the opinions of the home retail group ltd. information provided within this post is of my own source and of no information reflected from sources within the group.

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Hi i have been done right up by args with my childrens xmas present, i went into our local store and paid cash for a pool table that is my childrens main xmas present, and at this time this was in stock a would be delivered within 10 days!, GREAT! Now this was paid for and ordered at the beginning of december, so we would have this in time for xmas, now we just got a call from customer service 14 days before xmas saying that this will not be with us until the new year and even then they will only be calling me with an update no promise of a delivery! and with them calling me so late to inform me that we wont get this it has left me no time to get my money back and order from somewhere else now where do i stand as the reciept states delivery within 10 days and when i ordered this it was is stock?

 

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Anyone who buys anything from Argos on eBay deserves to get ripped off.

 

Read their feedback page - they habitually and knowingly list used items and damaged returns as being new - not even "New Other" but New as in brand spanking new. They knowingly list items they don't have available and hold on to peoples money.

 

eBay of course do sweet FA about it - whereas a private seller who has a sale go wrong - often due to a dodgy buyer - gets bullied and their visibility in auctions reduced by eBay for months.

In knowledge lies wisdom

 

Mo - not even a bar-stool lawyer, but I'll help where I can...

 

 

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