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    • Hi, In my last post I mentioned I had received an email from SS who were asking me to hand over the keys to my mother’s flat so they could pass them to the Law firm who have been appointed court of protection to access, secure and insure my mother’s property.  Feeling this, all quickly getting out of my hands I emailed ss requesting proof of this. I HAVEN’T HEARD BACK FROM SS.  Yesterday, I received an email (with attached court of protection order) from the Law Firm confirming this was correct (please see below a copy of this).  After reading the court of protection order I do have some concerns about it:   (a)   I only found out yesterday, the Law firm had been appointed by the court back in January.  Up until now, I have not received any notification regarding this.  (b)   Section 2   - States I am estranged from my mother.  This is NOT CORRECT    The only reason I stepped back from my mother was to protect myself from the guy (groomer) who had befriended her & was very aggressive towards me & because of my mother’s dementia she had become aggressive also.  I constantly tried to warned SS about this guy's manipulative behaviour towards my mother and his increasing aggressiveness towards me (as mentioned in previous posts).  Each time I was ignored.  Instead, SS encouraged his involvement with my mother – including him in her care plans and mental health assessments.   I was literally pushed out because I feared him and my mother’s increasing aggression towards me. Up until I stepped back, I had always looked after my mother and since her admission to the care home, I visit regularly.   .(c)    Sections -  4, 5 and 7  I am struggling to understand these as I don’t have a legal background.  I was wondering if there is anyone who might be able to explain what they mean.  It’s been a horrendous situation where I had to walk away from my mother at her most vulnerable because of; ss (not helping), scammer and groomer. I have no legal background, nor experience in highly manipulative people or an understanding of how the SS system operates, finding myself isolated, scared and powerless to the point I haven’t collected my personal belongings and items for my mother’s room in the care home.  Sadly, the court has only had heard one version of this story SS’s, and based their decision on that. My mother’s situation and the experience I have gone through could happen to anyone who has a vulnerable parent.    If anyone any thoughts on this much appreciated.  Thank you. ______________________________________________________  (Below is the Court of Protection Order)  COURT OF PROTECTION                                                                                                                                                                                   No xxx  MENTAL CAPACITY ACT 2005 In the matter of Name xxx ORDER Made by  Depty District Judge At xxx Made on xxx Issued on 18 January 2024  WHEREAS  1.     xxx Solicitors, Address xxx  ("Applicant”) has applied for an order under the Mental Capacity Act 2005.  2.     The Court notes (my mother) is said to be estranged from all her three children and only one, (me) has been notified.  3.     (Me) was previously appointed as Atorney for Property and Affairs for (my mother).  The Exhibity NAJ at (date) refers to (me) and all replacement Attorneys are now officially standing down.  4.     Pursuant to Rule 9.10 of the Court of Protection Rules 2017 and Practice Direction 9B the Applicant 2must seek to identify at least three persons who are likely to have an interest in being notified that an application has been issues.”  The children of (my mother), and any other appointed attorneys are likely to have an interest in the application, because of the nature of relationship to (my mother).  5.     The Court considers that the notification requirements are an important safeguard for the person in respect of whom an order is sought.  6.     The Court notes that it is said that the local authority no longer has access to (my mother’s) Property.  7.     Further information is required for the Court to determine the application.  IT IS ORDERED THAT  Within 28 days of the issue date this order, the Applicant shall file a form COP24 witness statement confirming that the other children of (my mother) and any replacement attorneys have been notified of the application and shall confirm their name, address, and date upon which those persons were notified.  If the Applicant wishes the Court to dispense with any further notification, they should file a COP9 and COP24 explaining, what steps (if any) have been taken to attempt notification and why notification should be dispensed with.   Pending the determination of the application to appoint a deputy for (my mother), the Applicant is authorised to take such steps as are proportionate and necessary to access, secure and insure the house and property of (my mother).   This order was made without a hearing and without notice.  Any person affected by this order may apply within 21 days of the date on which the order was served to have the order set aside or varied pursuant to Rule 13.4 of the Court of Protection Rules 2017 (“the Rules”).  Such application must be made on Form COP9 and in accordance with Part 10 Rules.              
    • Unless I've got an incorrect copy of the relevant regulation: The PCN is only deemed to have arrived two days after dispatch "unless the contrary is proved" in which case date of delivery does matter (not just date of posting) and I would like clarification of the required standard of proof. It seems perhaps this hasn't been tested. Since post is now barcoded for the Post Office's own tracking purposes perhaps there is some way I can get that evidence from the Post Office...
    • I would say You should accept it - I HIGHLY doubt you will  be able to claim for letters at trial ans they’re offering you that, which is higher monetary value than interest.   Also they raise a good point, getting interest at anything above 4% is lucky these days, yes judges give it, but rarily above 4%   Also you might find depending on the judge  you don’t get some costs if you take it all the way over £7.40 when court woukdnt award letters costs and thus meaning their award would be less than evris offer which was made    Up to you though but the wait will be 3-4mo for a trial date at least
    • Hi Folks, Been 162 days! Just by way of update. Today I received a text from Opos Ltd so no doubt Capquest are renting the debt out to anybody who fancies a nibble. Safe to say I will not be responding.
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I traded in my car at the weekend for a newer one.

 

I made the garage aware of a abs problem that I was aware of but other than that the car was fine. They took it for a test drive and were happy with it.

 

They contacted me yesterday to say they had taken the car out for a "proper run" when it overheated and ran out of water - I explained that I was not aware of any issue - I'd had a heating matrix leak repaired over a month ago but my garage had advised the car was fine and I've been driving it as usual ever since.

 

He then sent me a message saying he was getting a mechanic to look at it but though the head gasket had been broken.

 

Now, I'm not mechanically minded but surely I would have noticed that or would have had problems with the car if that was the case? If the issue was there then it was missed by my garage and I certainly wasn't aware of it otherwise I wouldn't have been driving the car!

 

I'm just wondering where I stand legally here - I don't know why he's contacting me now and what he's expecting of me? Can he cancel the agreement or refuse to take the car? I have a receipt saying he took it as part exchange so is the car not now legally his?

 

Any advise on where I stand legally and how best to proceed are greatly appreciated. I don't want to be rude to him but I just want to enjoy my new car not get dragged down in the problems he is having with my old car!

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I traded in my car at the weekend for a newer one.

 

I made the garage aware of a abs problem that I was aware of but other than that the car was fine. They took it for a test drive and were happy with it.

 

They contacted me yesterday to say they had taken the car out for a "proper run" when it overheated and ran out of water - I explained that I was not aware of any issue - I'd had a heating matrix leak repaired over a month ago but my garage had advised the car was fine and I've been driving it as usual ever since.

 

He then sent me a message saying he was getting a mechanic to look at it but though the head gasket had been broken.

 

Now, I'm not mechanically minded but surely I would have noticed that or would have had problems with the car if that was the case? If the issue was there then it was missed by my garage and I certainly wasn't aware of it otherwise I wouldn't have been driving the car!

 

I'm just wondering where I stand legally here - I don't know why he's contacting me now and what he's expecting of me? Can he cancel the agreement or refuse to take the car? I have a receipt saying he took it as part exchange so is the car not now legally his?

 

Any advise on where I stand legally and how best to proceed are greatly appreciated. I don't want to be rude to him but I just want to enjoy my new car not get dragged down in the problems he is having with my old car!

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Please will you not start multiple threads on the same issue. It makes it confusing for people who might want to help you.

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Please will you not start multiple threads on the same issue. It makes it confusing for people who might want to help you.

 

 

Sorry I realised I'd posted it in the wrong section but wasn't able to move it hence I reposted in the correct area!

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You care a consumer and the garage is buying the car in the course of business. Unless you have actively mislead the garage, I don't think that there is any comeback on you. Presumably they inspected the car before they bought it. I think that they bought it "as seen".

 

I would tend to have nothing further to do with them.

However, be careful if you have problems with your new car as they may well make things difficult for you if you try to go back at them under the guarantee.

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You are a private citizen and not a trader or dealer, so the purchase from you will be classed as a private sale hence, they do not get the protection of the regulations that you have on your new car. Just as in all private sales, it is 'buyer beware'.

 

Being professionals, they should have made themselves aware of any problems before they made you an offer. Any problems are purely their problems, and should they come back to you requesting that you contribute to bring the car up to standard should be rejected.

 

You, however, are covered by regulations and any problems that develope in your new car will, in accordance with the regulations, be theirs to take care of.

 

They were happy to accept the car and gave you a price that will make them an handsome profit when they put it back up for sale.

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Thank you!

 

I do have a warranty with my new car but I'm not required to take any warranty claims directly with them and do it through the warranty provider.

 

I'm getting my new car checked by a mechanic tomorrow to identify any issues but I had a pre purchase check by a qualified mechanic so I'm hoping I don't need to go back to the garage with any issues. The only think I have left to do is update the v5 with his details - I didn't have it due to changing a private plate onto another car and the v5 hadn't come through yet but I'm hoping that will not be an issue

 

I think I'll just ignore any future contact unless he raises any formal action - he test drove my car and had a chance to look it over etc - I had nothing to hide as I was not aware of any underlying issue.

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Will you come back and tell us the result of the check you are having done please.

 

Of course! Although fingers crossed nothing major shows up!:)

 

Thanks for the advice everyone - I've not heard anything from the dealership today so maybe he'll cease contact now! I've been a bit stressed about it!

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Well there are further developments.

 

The garage sent me a text message last night claiming the head gasket has gone and that there are signs that a seal was put through the system to prevent this happening earlier.

 

The only seal that I'm aware of is the one my garage used to fix the heating matrix leak so I will be phoning the today to confirm exactly what they did to the car and whether or not there were signs of gasket problems - as I said to the garage, I'm not a mechanic, I can only go on what I'm told!

 

They are now claiming they want to cancel the deal and are seeking advice so I'm going to phone consumer direct this morning to see where I stand!

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The use of a leak stopper is a temp measure only, a get you home repair. I don't like this one, there is something you are not telling us as the same gunge can be used to mask a head gasket problem on a temp basis.

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