PCN Code 83

[dom2599]

Hi All,

 

The father in law got a ticket today for not displaying a valid ticket in a pay and display car park (he honestly thought it was free on a sunday)...any way, the ticket has a part that states 'Signature/Initials' in this part the CEO has entered his/her number and not the signature or initials, is this worth fighting?

 

Thanks in advance

[kiptower]

Council or Private car park the answer is important

[sailor sam]

Unless it's a private car park or the sigange is incorrect in some way, then it's a no i'm afraid.

 

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[dom2599]

Thanks for the quick response, i thought is was owned by Morrisons, but looks like it is a council care park

[kiptower]

who issued the ticket and can you scan it and remove personal details etc,

 

the code is as follows but note Private Parking Companies will use Council code to make their [problem] invoices look like real parking tickets

 

83

Parked in a car park without clearly displaying a valid pay & display ticket / Lower / Off-street car parks

[dom2599]

who issued the ticket and can you scan it and remove personal details etc,

 

 

I'll put it up in a minute

[dom2599]

Attached as requested

[kiptower]

forum does not display attachments very well get a photbucket account for free and that to host the pick

 

now somewhere on the forum there is a tutorial of how to use photobucket , but i can never find it

 

get photobucket here

 

www.photobucket.com

[dom2599]

See if this is any better, the council is Redcar & Cleveland Council

 

[kiptower]

photobucket is going to be the best idea to be honest its still hard for the experts to check it out for flaws, and front and back needs to be posted

 

you will also need to check the signage for the car park regarding times etc ,

 

and posible check with the Council for a copy of the "Traffic Management Order" in place for the car park they MUST have one by Law to enforce the tickets etc

 

I will leave it to experts to check the ticket for flaws

[Jamberson]

Can't tell you about the validity of the PCN but I can tell you (as per Sailor Sam, above) that the lack of signature does not render it invalid. You need to find some other issue to rely on.

[dom2599]

Thnaks for all your help, i think in this case he will have to pay the fine, although he did say he's parked there for years on a sunday and never bought a ticket!.....looks like he's been lucky

[Jamberson]

If you don't want to dig deeper into this, I would suggest at least double-checking whether he should pay on Sunday. The fact that he hasn't been ticketed before suggests the CEO might have made a mistake, or there may have been a recent change in regulations.

 

I would find out (one phone call to the council) and write an appeal anyway based on mitigating circumstances - you have nothing to lose and all to gain. If you lose the appeal, you will not forfeit the discount, provided you appeal in time.