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Got a letter recently from a company calling itself Advanced Investigation Services telling me that I failed to respond to their recent letter of warning of impending legal action of a small debt. Apart from the fact I'd never received any previous letters from said company, I'd also never heard of them either.

 

Now me being a Cabot Fan Clubber en all, would quite naturally 'check it out'

 

Along the bottom of the paperwork " Clanchatton Birmingham Limited T/A Advanced Investigation Services registered office etc etc...

 

So off to the OFT public register - Advanced Investigation Services? -nothing! - good start.:p

 

Clanchatton Birmingham Ltd - aha, what have we here? Commercial Credit services trading styles...but No Advanced Investigation Services...so my friends another one for the OFT regulators to get their teeth into.... They just won't learn will they? :D

 

 

Don't feck with the Cabot Fan Club! :D

 

 

Anyone gets a letter from Advanced Investigation Services - they are not on the OFT Licence and it is a criminal offence to trade under a trading style in the credit industry if your name is not on your licence. - Period !

 

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Advanced Investigation Services doesn't appear in the ICO register of data controllers either - although Clanhatton etc. does. All trading names and styles are supposed to be registered.

 

I note that Clanchatton is a member of the CSA - and their code of conduct states that members must operate lawfully at all times. Maybe worth a complaint, if only to see what risible nonsense the industry's club will come out with as an excuse for doing nothing.

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Don't you just love it though, they just never ever learn do they?

 

They are so far up their own backsides trying to find yet another way to pull the wool over our eyes they trip themselves here to Kingdom come.

 

If it wasn't for my 'check it out' practice I wouldn't have questioned it. Just looking at their letter made me laugh

 

Specialist in Locating People at their Home Address"

 

right along the bottom - Perhaps they should have written to me 2 doors down and then they'd find me. I mean, even Ken Maynard wouldn't think of doing that :D Maybe they'll meet at the CSA meeting and discuss it?

 

Idiots the lot of them. (In my opinion of course, allegedly, of course) :roll:

 

This will be going to the OFT without question and I'd suggest anyone else who gets one too does the same.;)

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I mean, even Ken Maynard wouldn't think of doing that :D Maybe they'll meet at the CSA meeting and discuss it?

 

 

 

You might say that; I couldn't possibly comment...

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Company Profile Report (CPR)

 

Commercial Debt Management

Company Name: CLANCHATTON BIRMINGHAM LIMITED

 

 

 

 

Previous Name(s): NO PREVIOUS NAME HAS BEEN RECORDED DURING THE LAST 20 YEARS

 

Registered Number: 01221157

 

Registered Office:

BELLWAY HOUSE

7 WORCESTER ROAD

BROMSGROVE

WORCESTERSHIRE

B61 7DL

 

Incorporation Date: 30/07/1975

 

Country Of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company

 

Accounting Reference Date: 31/03

Last Accounts Made Up To: 31/03/2010

Next Accounts Due: 31/12/2011

 

Last Annual Return: 03/03/2010

Next Annual Return Due: 31/03/2011

 

Company Status: Active

Type of Accounts: SMALL Accounts

 

Nature Of Business: 7487 - Other business activities

 

 

Filing History

 

 

28/06/2010 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/10

03/03/2010 03/03/10 FULL LIST

03/03/10 STATEMENT OF CAPITAL;GBP 100

03/03/2010 SECRETARY'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / MR MARK WILLIAM LEECH / 03/03/2010

03/03/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / MR MARK WILLIAM LEECH / 03/03/2010

03/03/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / MR SYMON EVERETT / 03/03/2010

24/02/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / MR LEE MORRIS / 24/02/2010

24/02/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / MR MARK WILLIAM LEECH / 24/02/2010

24/02/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / SYMON EVERETT / 24/02/2010

22/07/2009 DECLARATION OF SATISFACTION IN FULL OR IN PART OF A MORTGAGE OR CHARGE /FULL /CHARGE NO 4

22/07/2009 DECLARATION OF SATISFACTION IN FULL OR IN PART OF A MORTGAGE OR CHARGE /FULL /CHARGE NO 2

26/06/2009 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/09

03/03/2009 RETURN MADE UP TO 03/03/09; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

03/03/2009 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / LEE MORRIS / 30/11/2007

25/06/2008 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/08

07/03/2008 RETURN MADE UP TO 04/03/08; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

07/03/2008 LOCATION OF DEBENTURE REGISTER

17/12/2007 DIRECTOR RESIGNED

17/12/2007 DIRECTOR RESIGNED

17/12/2007 DIRECTOR RESIGNED

14/08/2007 RETURN MADE UP TO 04/03/07; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS; AMEND

11/07/2007 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/07

14/03/2007 RETURN MADE UP TO 04/03/07; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

SECRETARY'S PARTICULARS CHANGED;DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

26/07/2006 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED

19/07/2006 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/06

08/03/2006 RETURN MADE UP TO 04/03/06; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

21/07/2005 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/05

16/03/2005 RETURN MADE UP TO 11/03/05; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

15/07/2004 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/04

29/03/2004 RETURN MADE UP TO 11/03/04; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

05/08/2003 ACCOUNTS FOR 'MEDIUM' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/03

18/03/2003 RETURN MADE UP TO 11/03/03; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

13/07/2002 PARTICULARS OF MORTGAGE/CHARGE

09/07/2002 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/02

18/03/2002 RETURN MADE UP TO 11/03/02; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

30/11/2001 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 30/11/01 FROM:

G OFFICE CHANGED 30/11/01

96-100 BIRMINGHAM ROAD

BROMSGROVE

WORCESTERSHIRE

B61 0DF

16/08/2001 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/01

21/03/2001 RETURN MADE UP TO 11/03/01; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

24/07/2000 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/00

04/04/2000 RETURN MADE UP TO 11/03/00; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

27/01/2000 DIRECTOR RESIGNED

06/08/1999 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/99

08/04/1999 RETURN MADE UP TO 11/03/99; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

11/12/1998 DECLARATION OF SATISFACTION OF MORTGAGE/CHARGE

27/07/1998 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/98

15/04/1998 RETURN MADE UP TO 11/03/98; NO CHANGE OF MEMBERS

SECRETARY'S PARTICULARS CHANGED;DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

18/12/1997 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/97

08/05/1997 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED

08/05/1997 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED

09/04/1997 RETURN MADE UP TO 11/03/97; NO CHANGE OF MEMBERS

19/03/1997 PARTICULARS OF MORTGAGE/CHARGE

02/01/1997 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/96

15/03/1996 RETURN MADE UP TO 11/03/96; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS

13/09/1995 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/95

16/03/1995 RETURN MADE UP TO 11/03/95; NO CHANGE OF MEMBERS

DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED

03/08/1994 ACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/03/94

22/03/1994 RETURN MADE UP TO 11/03/94; NO CHANGE OF MEMBERS

17/01/1994 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 17/01/94 FROM:

G OFFICE CHANGED 17/01/94

96-100 BIRMINGHAM ROAD

BROMSGROVE

WORCESTERSHIRE

B61 0DF

12/01/1994 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 12/01/94 FROM:

G OFFICE CHANGED 12/01/94

19/21 HIGH STREET

BROMSGROVE

WORCESTERSHIRE

B61 8AJ

21/12/1993 PARTICULARS OF MORTGAGE/CHARGE

11/12/1993 DECLARATION OF SATISFACTION OF MORTGAGE/CHARGE

 

 

Mortgages

 

No. Mortgage Charges: 6

Mortgage Charges Outstanding: 2

Mortgage Charges Part Satisfied: 0

Mortgage Charges Satisfied: 4

 

 

Charge No: 5

Creation Date: 17/03/1997

Registered: 19/03/1997

Satisfied: Outstanding

Description: FIXED & FLOATING CHARGE

Person(s) Entitled To Charge: MIDLAND BANK PLC

Charge No: 6

Creation Date: 03/07/2002

Registered: 13/07/2002

Satisfied: Outstanding

Description: DEBENTURE

Person(s) Entitled To Charge: HSBC BANK PLC


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Company Profile Report (CPR)

 

Commercial Debt Management

Company Name: ADVANCED INVESTIGATIONS LTD

 

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Previous Name(s): NO PREVIOUS NAME HAS BEEN RECORDED DURING THE LAST 20 YEARS

 

Registered Number: 06322832

 

Registered Office: 21 EWELL ROAD

SURBITON

SURREY

KT6 6AF

 

Incorporation Date: 24/07/2007

 

Country Of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company

 

Accounting Reference Date: 31/07

Last Accounts Made Up To:

Next Accounts Due:

 

Last Annual Return:

Next Annual Return Due:

 

Company Status: Dissolved

Type of Accounts: NO ACCOUNTS FILED Accounts

 

Nature Of Business: None Supplied

 

 

Filing History

 

 

16/06/2009 STRUCK OFF AND DISSOLVED

04/03/2009 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 04/03/09 FROM:

GISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 04/03/2009 FROM

SWIFT HOUSE, 6 CUMBERLAND CLOSE

DARWEN

LANCASHIRE

BB3 2TR

30/12/2008 FIRST GAZETTE

24/07/2007 INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS

CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION

STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS & REGISTERED OFFICE

DECLARATION OF COMPLIANCE

MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION

ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION

 

 

Mortgage Data

NONE


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Company Profile Report (CPR)

 

Commercial Debt Management

Company Name: ADVANCED INVESTIGATION SERVICES LIMITED

 

Print Report

 

 

Previous Name(s): NO PREVIOUS NAME HAS BEEN RECORDED DURING THE LAST 20 YEARS

 

Registered Number: 06804831

 

Registered Office:

19 ST. JAMES ROAD

WATFORD

HERTS

UNITED KINGDOM

WD18 0DZ

 

Incorporation Date: 28/01/2009

 

Country Of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company

 

Accounting Reference Date: 31/01

Last Accounts Made Up To:

Next Accounts Due:

 

Last Annual Return:

Next Annual Return Due:

 

Company Status: Dissolved

Type of Accounts: NO ACCOUNTS FILED Accounts

 

Nature Of Business: None Supplied

 

 

Filing History

 

 

18/05/2010 FINAL GAZETTE: DISSOLVED VIA VOLUNTARY STRIKE-OFF

02/02/2010 FIRST GAZETTE NOTICE FOR VOLUNTARY STRIKE-OFF

22/01/2010 APPLICATION FOR STRIKING-OFF

18/08/2009 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED DIRECTOR JEMELIN BLANCO

08/06/2009 DIRECTOR APPOINTED MISS JEMELIN CAROLIAN ARTIGAS BLANCO

30/05/2009 DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR ANTHONY CLARKE

30/01/2009 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 30/01/09 FROM:

GISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 30/01/2009 FROM

19 ST. JAMES ROAD

WATFORD

HERTS

WD18 0DZ

UNITED KINGDOM

30/01/2009 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 30/01/09 FROM:

GISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 30/01/2009 FROM

THE STUDIO ST NICHOLAS CLOSE

ELSTREE

HERTS

WD6 3EW

30/01/2009 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED DIRECTOR GRAHAM COWAN

30/01/2009 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED SECRETARY QA REGISTRARS LIMITED

28/01/2009 INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS

CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION

STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS & REGISTERED OFFICE

DECLARATION OF COMPLIANCE

MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION

ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION

 

 

Mortgage Data

NONE


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..but this is the ' Trading As ' style of Clanchatton Birmingham Ltd, got now't to do with those two companies above really although it's useful to see the similarities in names...

 

If it's got the name and registered number of the Clanchatton company then the OFT will be looking at their licence as I have and will see they are not listed as a trading name..so tough titties to Clanchatton...they are in the mire :D


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If you need to find a debtor, if no one else can help and if you can find them maybe you can hire the A Team the Advanced Investigations Team that is:)

 

Losers where do they come up with these names, advance as opposed to beginner, I suppose it sounds SCARY.

 

Anyway, the SIA is also interested in this bunch.

 

Report them, its the only langauge they understand and to be fair they struggle with that as well


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If you need to find a debtor, if no one else can help and if you can find them maybe you can hire the A Team the Advanced Investigations Team that is:)

 

Losers where do they come up with these names, advance as opposed to beginner, I suppose it sounds SCARY.

 

Anyway, the SIA is also interested in this bunch.

 

Report them, its the only langauge they understand and to be fair they struggle with that as well

 

I'm having a senior moment...SIA ? wassat?


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Did anyone notice the appropriate surname of one of the directors (sorry to any other CAGGERS with the same surname... LEECH.....

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.....and here's for anyone of the aforesaid organisations which think we have any ulterior motives of being a 'won't pay', this is what we are about, nothing more, nothing less........ http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/78341-cabot-fan-club-6.html#post2969973 :wink:

 

ya don't feck with the Cabot Fan Club :D


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I'm having a senior moment...SIA ? wassat?

 

 

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Almost all operatives within the Security Industry (Security Officers/Cash in Transit/Door staff/Investigations) have to be licenced now . . you can get the sectors from their website

 

In my case I'm licenced as a "Front line Operative" sounds grand eh lol

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Security Industry Authority

 

Almost all operatives within the Security Industry (Security Officers/Cash in Transit/Door staff/Investigations) have to be licenced now . . you can get the sectors from their website

 

In my case I'm licenced as a "Front line Operative" sounds grand eh lol

 

Aha, thank you, so you're a dark glasses and dogs guy then are you? :D

 

Do DCA's need this then, even if they are desk bound Investigations? When did this kick in?


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No, I don't think that DCAs or private investigators need SIA accreditation. Their websites do need to comply with the Companies Act, though, and guess what - this one doesn't.

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No, I don't think that DCAs or private investigators need SIA accreditation. Their websites do need to comply with the Companies Act, though, and guess what - this one doesn't.

 

Interesting that there's no mention of their proper company name or number..are these amateurs or what? I'm not up on techi requirements so what do they need to have on a website normally. If we are going to slate this lot we might just as well do it properly. My complaint has already gone to the OFT, I'll have to catch up with the rest tomorrow...ICO and now Companies House eh? or would that be the OFT? :p


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No, I don't think that DCAs or private investigators need SIA accreditation. Their websites do need to comply with the Companies Act, though, and guess what - this one doesn't.

 

Hi SP

 

With luck this link will go to the SIA web page "Who needs a Private Investigation Licence" . .

 

Who Needs a Private Investigation Licence?

 

There are exemptions but the vast majority of people carrying out searches for info on a person will need to be licenced

 

I think this has already been implemented and if it has if anyone receives a phone call/letter from a DCA I believe you would be entitled to ask for thier SIA registration number ;)

 

I'll see if I can find out more re the date of implementation

 

R

(0825 -- Just sent an online query to the SIA for verification of dates/requirements . . lets see what comes back)

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[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I asked them to wait whilst I got my Bank card :violin:

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Hi SP

With luck this link will go to the SIA web page "Who needs a Private Investigation Licence" . .

Who Needs a Private Investigation Licence?

 

There are exemptions but the vast majority of people carrying out searches for info on a person will need to be licenced

I think this has already been implemented and if it has if anyone receives a phone call/letter from a DCA I believe you would be entitled to ask for thier SIA registration number ;)

I'll see if I can find out more re the date of implementation

R

 

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Aha, thank you, so you're a dark glasses and dogs guy then are you? :D

 

LoL . . I'm in the Manned Guarding sector . . Security Manager

 

Do DCA's need this then, even if they are desk bound Investigations? When did this kick in?

 

I have added a link in a reply to SP's post re licencing

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Companies House for their website fail. Contact is the Technical Offences Dept.

 

They are obliged to show their company registration, place of registration (i.e. England, Scotland, NI), and registered office address.

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The SIA Licencing aspect is interesting. The SIA say that a licence is NOT required for:

  • activities exclusively for the purposes of market research;
  • activities exclusively concerned with a credit check;
  • professional activities of practising solicitors and Barristers;
  • professional activities of practising accountants;
  • professional activities of journalists and broadcasters;
  • activities exclusively relating to reference to registers which are open to the public; registers or records to which a person has a right of access; and published works;
  • activities carried out with the knowledge or consent of the subject of the investigation.

I suspect that DCAs will claim that their activities are covered as 'carried out with the knowledge or consent of the subject of the investigation' because you consent to sharing of data in credit agreements; 'activities exclusively relating to reference to registers which are open to the public; registers or records to which a person has a right of access' because they use elctoral rolls. I suppose they could argue that paying for access to other databases such as CRAs is a 'right of access'.

 

However, this is worth following up. Certainly, where a company name makes clear that its function is investigative one would expect them to be properly licenced - even if it is only a trading style and he reality is that it's designed to scare rather than reflecting the true nature of the company's business.

 

Looking at the relevant Act, I note this in relation to licenceable activities:

 

This paragraph does not apply to the activities of any person who carries out any inquiries or investigation merely incidentally to the carrying out of any activities which (disregarding this sub-paragraph) are not the activities of a security operative.

 

So, when is an investigations company not an investigations company? When it's a DCA, presumably...

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Below is the reply I received from the SIA . .

Dear Mr Revenant

 

Thank you for your email to the SIA.

 

Currently the SIA does not licence Private investigators or precognition agents.

 

Information on this can be found on the link below.

 

Precognition Agents

 

If you wish to make any further enquiries please contact us on 0844 892 1025 between 8am – 8pm Monday to Friday.

 

Yours sincerely

 

James

SIA Contact Centre

 

So no help there unfortunately

R


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Below is the reply I received from the SIA . .

 

Dear Mr Revenant

 

Thank you for your email to the SIA.

 

Currently the SIA does not licence Private investigators or precognition agents.

 

Information on this can be found on the link below.

 

Precognition Agents

 

If you wish to make any further enquiries please contact us on 0844 892 1025 between 8am – 8pm Monday to Friday.

 

Yours sincerely

 

James

SIA Contact Centre

 

So no help there unfortunately

 

R

 

So when any Debt Collection Agency - carries out searches on consumers and use methods like calling neighbours, employer, relatives by telephone, and then uses tools like Land Registry, Electoral Registers and passes info from dept to dept, company to sister company to solicitors etc.. they need a license for this covering themselves and their employees?

 

Or am I reading this wrong?


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Sadly, you are reading it wrong; the rules are not yet in effect.

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Sadly, you are reading it wrong; the rules are not yet in effect.

 

 

Now that's a shame!! :D

 

could have had great fun with some peoples that I cabnot mentions ;)


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