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    • For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture] (must be received within 14 days from the Incident)   please answer the following questions.   1 Date of the infringement 17th, 18th and 22nd September     2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 24th, 24th and 28th September 2020   [scan up BOTHSIDES as ONE PDF- follow the upload guide]   3 Date received 26th September (for the ones dated as the 24th) 30th September OR 1st October, i'm unsure as I was not present at home from the evening of the 29th until the evening of 1st October (for the one on the 28th)   4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] Yes, on all of them   5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? They have captured two photos of the event for each date clearly showing my registration. The surroundings however are not present as the photos have been taken at very late hours.   6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] No   Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up ^^^ N/A ^^^   7 Who is the parking company? Minster Baywatch   8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Cotswold, Lakeside Car Park, GL7 5LU   For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. There is a BPA logo present at the bottom of each letter
    • Apologies for the delay it took a while to cut and also get to size, i have to split it into 3 parts as i couldnt get it below 4.88mb   Part 1 Trial Bundle upload part1.pdf part 2 Trial Bundle upload part 2.pdf part 3   Trial Bundle upload part 3.pdf
    • read upload it tells you how as long as we can read the NTK's etc clearly  must be PDF for us to zoom
    • 6 years... damn that surprised me.. if I do hear anything else I will let you and everyone on this thread know about it. My defense would be they didn't have planning permission at the time of the fine but I'll just go with the flow and see how it goes.
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    • Dazza a few months ago I discovered a good friend of mine who had ten debts with cards and catalogues which he was slavishly paying off at detriment to his own family quality of life, and I mean hardship, not just absence of second holidays or flat screen TV's.
      I wrote to all his creditors asking for supporting documents and not one could provide any material that would allow them to enforce the debt.
      As a result he stopped paying and they have been unable to do anything, one even admitted it was unenforceable.
      If circumstances have got to the point where you are finding it unmanageable you must ask yourself why you feel the need to pay.  I guarantee you that these companies have built bad debt into their business model and no one over there is losing any sleep over your debt to them!  They will see you as a victim and cash cow and they will be reluctant to discuss final offers, only ways to keep you paying with threats of court action or seizing your assets if you have any.
      They are not your friends and you owe them no loyalty or moral duty, that must remain only for yourself and your family.
      If it was me I would send them all a CCA request.   I would bet that not one will provide the correct response and you can quite legally stop paying them until such time as they do provide a response.   Even when they do you should check back here as they mostly send dodgy photo copies or generic rubbish that has no connection with your supposed debt.
      The money you are paying them should, as far as you are able, be put to a savings account for yourself and as a means of paying of one of these fleecers should they ever manage to get to to the point of a successful court judgement.  After six years they will not be able to start court action and that money will then become yours.
      They will of course pursue you for the funds and pass your file around various departments of their business and out to third parties.
      Your response is that you should treat it as a hobby.  I have numerous files of correspondence each faithfully organised showing the various letters from different DCA;s , solicitors etc with a mix of threats, inducements and offers.   It is like my stamp collection and I show it to anyone who is interested!
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I have been paying Jacob's Bailffs for years at £46 per week plus their £1 charge because it is by debit card. I had paid nearly £5000 and could see the light at the end of the tunnel, then the bill for 2010/2011 came in and anticipating problems paying Jacob's plus the new council tax bill wrote to my local council Redcar and Cleveland, to ask if I could pay a nominal amount just till Jacobs were clear which would not have been too long, they said to put it in writing and they would look at it. The letter then came from Jacobs asking me to fill in the income and expenditure form, which I did, and then yesterday I receive a letter saying they have increased my payments to £250 per month and it is not negotiable, I rang the council and they claimed that they had sent a letter to me saying that they agreed to my proposal but as I had not paid anything it had gone to the bailiffs, I did not receive any letter and the woman rather haughtily told me to "sort it with Royal Mail".

Well, today I have basically been emailing anybody that will listen, there is a formal letter on the way to the council, I have spoken to my local councillor, rang the citizens advice, but I am worried if nothing is sorted by the date of the first payment (3rd August) what should I do?

I know a little bit about bailiffs, and when they first started calling I did sign a Walking Possession Order, but the Liability Order for this year and the one for last year which I only owe £300 on I have not, does this mean they cannot enter my home, are they supposed to do a WPO for every Liablity Order? Could anyone offer me some advice please.

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do you know if the liability order with the wpa attached to it is paid in full


if they are collecting more than one liability order all sent to the bailiffs at different times then yes they would need to get a new wpa for each year


have you ever received a breakdown of bailiffs fees for any of the accounts

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Yes I am certain that the liability orders that the wpo was attached to have been paid, when we rang jacobs recently they told us that we only had the current liability order and the one for last year which nobody visited for.

No I have not received a breakdown of the fees but have downloaded a SAR form and I am going to send that to them.

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are you going to send a subject access request and pay the £10 or are you going to ask for a fees breakdown


they cant use a previous WPA to gain entry so you are OK there if you have a car move it well away from your street don't let them get another WPA



have you replied to this letter (I receive a letter saying they have increased my payments to £250 per month and it is not negotiable)


As long they don't get a levy there is nothing Jacobs can do if its not sorted by the 3rd pay the council what you can afford


did you send Jacobs a copy of the letter you sent the council


My council uses Jacobs PM me if you are in north wales and if its the same council i will give the name of a very good local councillor

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No I am not in Wales, my local council is Redcar and Cleveland. I am sending a copy of the letter to Jacob's and I will also request a breakdown of the fees.


If you are requesting a breakdown of fees include reference numbers for all accounts including the one that is paid


phone /e-mail your council ask for

the date of each liability order

the amount each liability order

the date each was passed to the bailiffs

the outstanding amount of each liability order (this will also confirm the liability order with the wpa attached is showing a Nil balance)

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Could you tell me what a levy is please, I am pretty sure I have not had one.



Notice of seizure of goods and inventory it lists the goods levied its part of the wpa


there is a copy of a Jacobs Notice of seizure on the forum somewhere (i posted it ) if you want to see it give me a shout and i will see if i can find it

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