PPC still at it in The Galleries

[crem]

Just nipped over to Asda at The Galleries (which I admit I rarely do nowadays because of the PPC presence that started a couple of years ago) and noticed a couple of cars in the disabled car park with the nice pretty yellow envelopes stuck to their window.

 

Not letting a little thing like that deter me at this time of night I parked my car up and toddled in for my milk fully expecting to come out and find a sticker on my window too.

 

I wasn't too bothered as I now have the address of a great website I could have posted on to help me beat the PPC [problematic] if need be. :D I'm sorry to say though, I don't need your help tonight guys coz I got no yellow envelop on my car for my 5 minute "transgression" of their rules.

[prolific8]

This isn't directed at you crem as I don't know your personal circumstances, it's more of a general rant using the royal "you".

 

Were these bays actually being used by disabled people? I must admit as I much as I hate the [causing problems] PPC's, people who park in disabled bays because "I was only going to be five minutes" and "they weren't being used" really **** me off too. It ceases to be about whether or not blue badges are enforceable in private car parks etc, and just becomes about basic human courtesy and respect.

 

If you're not disabled, leave the disabled spaces for those that are and can benefit from them. Otherwise you're just a bit of a ******.

[afcwben]

must admit while disabled spaces in private land is not valid, I have two sons in wheelchairs and often I find people taking up the spaces. This is not about the legality of it, but what is right. However I feel mother and toddler spaces are fair game as people get pregnant as a choice, disabilty is not

[crem]

For those that are familiar with the galleries layout, they will know that the entire "small" carpark of about 45 bays near the Asda 24hour shop is marked as disabled. These were only marked as such when they co-incidently brought in a PPC about 2 years ago, increasing it from about 15 bays with the remainder being standard parking.

 

At the time of night I am talking about, when only the Asda is open, 45 bays is more than enough to cope with the entire customer base of the Asda with most sensible people not actually parking in the bays immediately nearest to the shop entrance.

[prolific8]

Point taken, PPC just being scumbags in this case. I stand by what I said for situations where there is an alternative

[Al27]

Elderly people who forget their blue badges are easy prey for PPCs. Almost always pay up.

[Yorky2008]

However I feel mother and toddler spaces are fair game as people get pregnant as a choice, disabilty is not

 

And that isnt really an argument to use them, if you do its as bad as using a disabled space, they are there for a reason at the end of the day.

[ScarletPimpernel]

And that isnt really an argument to use them, if you do its as bad as using a disabled space, they are there for a reason at the end of the day.

 

 

The reason these spaces are there is as a marketing strategy.

 

That said, I think they are a good ides - it lessens the chance of one of them parking next to my car and some vile brat opening their car door onto mine and damaging it.

 

I think Crem has a point, though. Quite why people feel the need to inflict their screaming, badly-behaved spawn upon others in a supermarket is beyond me. Don't these people have cellars?

[prolific8]

And that isnt really an argument to use them, if you do its as bad as using a disabled space, they are there for a reason at the end of the day.

 

Meh, I disagree. Just because little Johnny throws a tantrum when he has to walk an extra twenty feet to the store doesn't mean you deserve to park any closer than me.

[Yorky2008]

Just because little Johnny throws a tantrum when he has to walk an extra twenty feet to the store doesn't mean you deserve to park any closer than me.

 

Who says anything about 20ft? Who said little Johnny can actually walk yet? One shopping centre near me if you park on the upper level then you cant physically get a pram down unless you push it down the ramp dodging cars - dangerous! Hence why there are parent spaces on the ground floor.

 

Whilst I do not agree with PPCs and their fines/invoices mentality, if you park there dont go moaning when someone nicks your disabled space!

 

Although it did give me immmense satisfaction asking the Porsche driver to shift his car out of one as he rolled up the other week, not just little Johnny who is a lazy @rse

[prolific8]

I'm not disabled and I don't have children, so it's not something that affects me personally. But as someone said above, one is a choice and the other is not. I will park further away if you physically cannot, but that is rarely the case just because you have a child in tow (anecdotal isolated incidents aside).

[Yorky2008]

The fact one being a choice and one not is a red herring, we are discussing the provision of the spaces. Else shopping, going to the cinema, everything else, etc is a choice.....

 

Legally you can park where you want, disabled or parent +child, at a PPC car park, its just graffiti as has been stated on other threads. Council you cant.

 

If it doesnt affect you then its just a case of you stating 'Im alright Jack'.

[prolific8]

I guess it all depends on where you draw your own line in the proverial moral sand. I don't view people with children as deserving any special dispensation, it appears you (and indeed others) do. I think there is certainly a lot more mutual understanding that can arise out of this particular scenario than that of lazy arseholes parking in disabled spaces, so I'll leave it at that.