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Hi, Nice to meet you all. I am here to ask a question and as its quite a complicated one I understand if you aren't able to help but any answers are appreciated.

 

My Friend Shelly has been living with her friend for just over a year, when she moved in she had to have someone round to see if they were a couple because he is male and they do not share the same surname. It was declared that they are NOT living as a couple which indeed they are not.

 

The man she is living with has no family and she See's him as her brother, her parents see him as their son as he has none of his own family.

The reason Shelly and him are living together was her sister moved back home who shelly dosent get on with, so her parents helped the two of them find somewhere, they thought they could be a support to each other as they are both not very well with their mental health confidence etc.

 

Well Shelly went to stay with her sister for a few weeks for a break and her sister had some friends over. Shelly got close to a boy there and now she fears she maybe pregnant.

 

Obviously this is a shock and she is yet to do the test, I said I would ask somewhere online as she is worried about how this will effect her money.

She is on income support, her male friend (considered brother) Is on incapacity.

 

If she is indeed pregnant, who would she need to let know? Would they assume the man she lives with is the father just because he is a man? She seems to think they will though they are not a couple and DO NOT think that way.

 

So I thought Id ask, as she is living as a single person I didn't know how to tell her to go about this or who she needs to let know if she is pregnant.

 

Hope you can help. Thanks.

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I would have thought - and it's only a guess - that if she named the father on the birth certificate there could be no problem to worry about. I trust he'll be supportive...

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thanks kelcou for the reply, I will chat with her in the morning and hopefully have more replies by then, Love your avatar btw :)

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Anyone else able to advise? xxx

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She doesn't need to tell anyone she is pregnant but she will need to tell Income Support when the baby is born as it is a change to her circumstances. She should also make claims for the appropriate benefits. Sure Start Maternity Grant once she is 29 weeks pregnant (if this is her first child and she will be 29 weeks or more after 1st April 2011) and Child Tax Credit when the baby is born.

 

They will likely do another compliance check. This is perfectly normal when there has been previous compliance interest and it has been established that they are not LTAHAW and a baby comes into the equation where there is no new partner on the claim.

 

As Kelcou states, having the father named on the birth cert should solve any issues with this straight away, but she can only do this with the father's consent. Also if she was receiving child support from the father, even if he is not named on the birth certificate this would solve the issue.


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Thank you for your reply, it is confirmed shelly is pregnant, two clear blues confirmed it.

I spoke to her and she said she doesn't want the father to have anything to do with the baby, when he was told he made that clear that he didn't want to know to.

If she puts UNKNOWN on the certificate will this be OK? and help like you said it would if his name was on the certificate? thank you for your help.

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I don't know if the rules have changed, but one of my hobbies is genealogy and I've seen loads of birth certificates where the box for the father's name is just left blank.

 

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It hasn't changed. I just found this on a local authority website. Hope it helps Shelly.

 

Who can register a baby's birth?

 

If the mother and father were married to each other at the time of the child's birth either parent may register.

If the mother and father were not married to each other at the time of the child's birth both parents have to be present at the registration in order to have both of their names recorded in the register. If the mother attends on her own only her details and the child's details will be recorded.

 

 

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Thank you for your reply, it is confirmed shelly is pregnant, two clear blues confirmed it.

I spoke to her and she said she doesn't want the father to have anything to do with the baby, when he was told he made that clear that he didn't want to know to.

If she puts UNKNOWN on the certificate will this be OK? and help like you said it would if his name was on the certificate? thank you for your help.

 

It would help if his name was on the birth certificate, yes, but I wouldn't say it's a showstopper if she doesn't or isn't able to because he won't consent. I did used to work for the DWP, but this isn't a situation I've encountered before. My feeling is that they would be very careful before effectively accusing a mother of lying about the parentage of her child.


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Another L.T.H.A.W interview may been done after the visit by compliance, after the birth of the baby, just because a decision has already been done this doesnt mean that this cant always be looked at again, but this is common a LTHAW decision doesnt stand indefinately and can be reviewed again and again,

And of course Shelly has nothing to worry about in respect of this

 

The old rules of CSA and I.S have long gone, then under these rules the mother had to name the childs father so I.S could give information to CSA. If she didnt comply then a sanction would be put on the claim. But thankfully this is all in the past.

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Thank you all for your help, Shelly is still worried about what will happen when the baby is born, she is on income support due to her mental health (sickness) when the baby is born will she still be allowed this? she is due a review this October.

I think she is worried they will say well shes pregnant or got a baby now so she must be better, where as this wasn't the case it was of course unplanned.

When does income support need to be told? they may not even look into the fact that she is living with a considered brother but of course this is hanging over her too, it would of course been a lot easier if she had been living with her sister!

I wonder if they would change the sickness income support to single parent? I guess I should maybe offer to contact someone and find out for her but I thought Id ask you guys first so may give her peace of mind xxx

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... she is on income support due to her mental health (sickness) ... I think she is worried they will say well shes pregnant or got a baby now so she must be better ...

 

Hunni, I can't comment on what might happen to benefits etc, I'll leave that to better and more knowledgeable people than I.

However, I can comment on what I have quoted here. Believe me, pregnancy and childbirth cannot in itself cure mental health issues... ;)

 

Best wishes

Rae

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Thank you all for your help, Shelly is still worried about what will happen when the baby is born, she is on income support due to her mental health (sickness) when the baby is born will she still be allowed this? she is due a review this October.

I think she is worried they will say well shes pregnant or got a baby now so she must be better, where as this wasn't the case it was of course unplanned.

When does income support need to be told? they may not even look into the fact that she is living with a considered brother but of course this is hanging over her too, it would of course been a lot easier if she had been living with her sister!

I wonder if they would change the sickness income support to single parent? I guess I should maybe offer to contact someone and find out for her but I thought Id ask you guys first so may give her peace of mind xxx

 

If she's been found unfit for work due to illness, the fact that she's had a baby won't suddenly make her fit in the eyes of the DWP. At least, it certainly wouldn't in the case of ESA.

 

I'm not familiar with IS, though, and I think we need Mikey to check back in on this thread.


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thank you that would be most helpful, im confusing myself now!! lol, thanks for your support xxx

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