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One of my family members children, a 4 month old boy wend for his MMR Vaccine last Tuesday, on wednesday he was beginning to feel unwell and on thursday was admitted to hospital and my family member was told he had contracted Bacterial Meningitis.

 

After giving the child anti biotics at the weekend the family member was told he was to go for an MRI scan at 9am on monday to see if the menigitis had infected the childs brain.

 

Monday morning arrives only for a doctor to arrive and to say that there is no space for an MRI today (monday) and that they would have to do it on tuesday afternoon.

 

My 1st point is shouldn't this child be a priority.

 

The area around the left thigh is massivly infected and the doctors have confirmed that this has occured as a direct result of the Vaccination.

 

The little one has no use of this leg at the moment and is due to be opereated on today.

 

I have told said family member to take note of everything, whilst there is no argument that the hospital are not treatng him as best as possible.

 

 

When he does recover should my family member seek legal advice as the meningitis has been given to the child at the doctors surgery and the evidence is there to back this up.

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Whilst I sympathise with your family's plight, I think you may be barking up the wrong tree.

 

What makes you think that there is a link between the MMR and the meningitis? Bacterial meningitis is spread by close contact with the nose or throat discharges from an infected person. OTOH, MMR is a vaccine for measles, mumps and rubella, so I don't understand where the 2 being linked comes from.

 

The area around the thigh being infected is a different matter, it happens in some children and whilst this will be linked to the injection, that has nothing to do with meningitis, it is quite simply an infection, which does get fairly standard treatment, and should get resolved fairly easily. The meningitis (with the possible risk of septicaemia it involves) may jeopardise that, but I think you may be approaching this from the wrong angle so to speak, as in the meningitis may prevent the infection from healing properly or timely, but the injection wouldn't have caused the meningitis.

 

Meningitis incubation period is between 2 and 10 days so again the timing between injection and symptoms 1st appearing doesn't seem to tally with blaming the surgery for the meningitis infection, IMO.

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Hi stugga,

 

I have just read your account of a poorly 4 month old boy following his MMR vaccine.

 

I hope I can offer some help for your questions.

 

You say that his thigh was the site for the vaccine and it sounds as though he has developed a localised cellulitis type infection (hot, swollen skin,very painful to touch) which will respond well to antibiotics and simple painkillers such as paracetamol and Ibuprofen.

 

You also state that he has started antibiotics for meningitis. This is THE MOST IMPORTANT action a doctor can take on the suspition of meningitis, whether eventually proven or not.

 

Proof of a meningitis infection will be diagnosed with the test called an LP, where a needle is inserted into the back and a very small amount of the cerebrospinal fluid is drawn off and sent to the lab. to be incubated, to see what grows. This will then enable the doctors to target the specific infection with the specific antibiotic.

Did the child have this test done?

It is not always done as the child may not tolerate the procedure or the child is too ill. The antibiotics are the most improtant treatment.

 

What were the reasons for the MRI scan?

An MRI of the childs brain will not diagnose meningitis. It is not the first test done.

An MRI will show up any severe swelling of the brain caused by an infection which can be treated.

A child with swelling of the brain may present with a very high pitched cry, become excessively irritable or even start fitting, or have problems with the pupil reactions of their eyes.

 

A child with meningitis will be miserable, hate bright lights, run a fever, and will not feel like eating and drinking. These symptoms will be treated as they arise with paracetamol to reduce a temperature, and fluids to stop the child dehydrating.

 

Antibiotics are THE most important treatment.

 

I hope his condition is now improving and he is getting better.

Wishing him a speedy recovery,

Night Owl


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Yep, the poor klittle fella has had a LP Last thursday and again on sunday,

 

he has just come out of theatre today to remove excess fluid from the bone in the thigh.

 

They have now inserted a canular unto the top of his head to pass the anibiotics through, previously been through both wrists and feet.

 

The doctors have told my family member that the menigitis has 99% came from the injection and that the meningitis is not contagious.

 

 

This being the case the original diognosis of the strain may have been incorrect.

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Hi stugga,

 

he sounds like he has been a poorly boy but is now on the road to recovery with the right treatment.

 

He has a long way to go but I wish him a full recovery soon.

 

Good luck

Night Owl x


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Bacterial meningitis is contagious; it is a notifiable disease and all persons whom have been in close contact over periods of time with a person who has contracted it should be contacted by the public health department. They should be given antibiotics if they are deemed to be at risk of contracting it from the infected person. The antibiotics are horrid - they turn your tears orange and your urine orange.

 

The virus which cause viral meningitis can also be passed on but a person who contracts the virus from another is highly unlikely to develop viral meningitis though it can happen. Public heath do not generally get involved in cases of viral meningitis.

 

Research by the meningitis research foundation shows that the MMR vaccine prevents some forms of meningitis:

Meningitis research foundation

 

It has been shown however that the MMR can cause encephalitis. This is inflammation of the brain itself. Meningitis is characterized by inflammation of the meninges which are the tisues which surround the brain and the spinal cord. Meningitis is commonly misdiagnosed as encephalitis, as the symptoms can be very similar. If meningitis is suspected, it is treated immediately because of how long it can take to grow a culture from the Lumbar Puncture to diagnose it. A blood test can also be performed to diagnose meningitis though this is not as good as an LP. For encephalitis, a computerised tomography scan or a lumbar puncture can be done in order to test for a diagnosis.

 

Now, if the MMR did cause encephalitis there would be little legal recourse because the decision on whether or not the child has the vaccine lies with the person who has parental rights, in this case the parent and the risks are publicised.


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they are going to investigate as to weather it was the vaccine or poor hygene .

 

ne way heres hoping the little ones ok

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While I read this story and feel very much for the young child and the family I wanted to say one thing......

 

MMR vaccinations are not given to 4 month old babies, it is firstly given at approximately 13 months and then repeated at about 3 1/2 years of age.

 

At 4 months a baby would be having their multiple infant vaccinations comprising of Tetanus, Pertussis, Diptheria, Meningitis C, HIB (Haemophilus influenzae type b) and Polio. Sometimes this is given as 2 injections - one into each thigh - but sometimes just one injection into one thigh.

 

While this may seem to be nitpicking it does make a difference as people googling MMR problems will get a link to this thread and it could cause added unnecessary concerns.

 

Sorry once again for jumping in on this thread but, as a children's nurse, I felt it was important that the correct immunisation was identified so as not to mislead people who google potential problems with MMR vaccines.

 

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Quite right, Feebee, as a parent of a child with autism, I know exactly what you mean, having battled endlessly against the damage caused by the media and MISTER Wakefield (I highlight the Mister since he has at last and quite rightly been struck off!).

 

Stugga, any news?

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Well spotted Feebee.


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I must admit I totally overlooked the age of the child. Good spot, Feebee!


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