NCP - £50 fine!?

[Gaity]

Hello everyone,

 

I'm a complete newbie to this Site and would appreciate some advice.

 

I returned to my car yesterday evening after paying £15 for for leaving it in a multi-storey NCP for roughly 5 hours.

 

Instead of parking in the normal bays, I parked by the outside wall in between 2 pillars which are technically marked for 2 cars, but too be honest you can just about fit 1 car in!

 

I've been doing this for a number of years in the same NCP with no problem, but yesterday I had a notice on my windscreen stating Violation 6 - "Not parked correctly within the markings of the bay space".

 

The fine is for £50 if I pay within 14 days, or £100 thereafter.

 

I can appeal this with National Car Parks Ltd but I'm not sure how I can dispute this?

 

Any help is much appreciated

[DBC]

Is this car-park council owned and run by NCP , or one owned and operated by NCP on its own account? If the latter (which I suspect, because of the appeal not mentioning the council) then you can safely ignore their demands as you don't owe them a penny.

[Gaity]

From looking at the charge notice it doesn't mention the Council at all and everything is marked NCP and only mentions the National Car Park Ltd.

 

If I do nothing and then receive a further letter, should I still do nothing?

 

I was going to respond and mention that at the point I took the ticket from the machine when entering the Car Park, their Terms & Conditions were not visable.

 

I was also going to mention that even if I was parked in 2 parking bays, then surely I am only liable for an additional £15 being the amount I paid for the time parked, rather than £50 !!

[lamma]

its a mail [problem] so why on earth do you want to take part by writing to them ? file and ignore. NCP don't do court.

[Gaity]

The operator of this Carp Park is definitely NCP!

 

I assume it makes no difference that the fine itself was stuck on my windscreen and not posted to me?

 

If so I will take your expert advice and ignore it

[DBC]

The operator of this Carp Park is definitely NCP!

 

I assume it makes no difference that the fine itself was stuck on my windscreen and not posted to me?

 

If so I will take your expert advice and ignore it

 

And, of course, it's not a "fine", it's an unenforceable invoice.

[Gaity]

Thanks everyone for your quick response - I shall ignore this "invoice" accordingly

[Gaity]

After ignoring the fine on my windscreen I have now received a further letter from "NCP" stating that I now need to pay £100 within the next 28 days otherwise NCP may instruct a debt collecting agency to collect the sum due!

 

Shall I simply ignore this again or shall I log onto the NCP website and state that I do not know who was driving the car on that day?

 

Any advice much appreciated

[DBC]

Yes, just keep ignoring. Note the word "may". That actually means "we won't"

[Al27]

Carry on ignoring. You have your Roxburghe and Graham White letters to look forward to yet!

[Gaity]

Thanks all, I'll look forward to more letters !!

[DBC]

Have a look at this NCP letter chain which shows you the letters you may receive

[Al27]

Rumours of them using another bunch of clowns now. Might have to update that soon!

[DBC]

I wonder if Mr Sobell (aka "Graham White") is actually retiring? Pepipoo is reporting that he has left his job at Harringay Council. He must be over seventy, having qualified as a solicitor in the early 1960's

[Gaity]

After ignoring all of the NCP letters I have now received a letter from "I.C.C. Legal Services (UK) Ltd".

 

The letter is headed, "Notice of Legal Proceedings" and states that if I don't pay the balance within the next 7 days this will result in "the immediate issue of legal proceedings" !

 

I assume this and future letters from "ICC" can be ignored?

 

Cheers all

[DBC]

Yes!

[Jamberson]

 

The letter is headed, "Notice of Legal Proceedings" and states that if I don't pay the balance within the next 7 days this will result in "the immediate issue of legal proceedings" !

 

 

I wonder what they have in mind?

 

"Your honour, the defendant won't give us £50"

 

"Why should they?"

 

"Erm... we sent them a letter telling them they have to"

 

"Case dismissed".

[Gaity]

Thanks as usual. I thought this might be your advice

[mrsingh]

Hi Gaity,

I am having the same problem with NCP and just received by letter from ICC. Please can you comment what was the result of you ignoring these letters.

 

Did everything just go away?

[Al27]

Yes. NCP have never never done court and never will. The bad publicity would ruin their little scheme.

[Gaity]

Hi Gaity,

I am having the same problem with NCP and just received by letter from ICC. Please can you comment what was the result of you ignoring these letters.

 

Did everything just go away?

 

Hello mate,

 

After a few letters from the NCP and one from a Debt Collector nothing happened!

 

I never replied to any letters.

 

Cheers.